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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (127 Viewers)
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Grendel
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There would have be a vote passed in the commons and no Tory or Unionist would ever do it
Grendel
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Ha ha what a tosser
Grendel
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She’s also typical pro European politician and a snout in the trough Brussels whore
Actually is this May you are talking about?
Captain Dart
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#5, 2 ministers, 1 junior minister and a senior civil servant already gone.
Resignation in Downing Street -
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Ridiculously staged, as they usually are on there.
skybluetony176
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Overall I think it will be up to 6 as 3 junior ministers have already resigned from what I’ve just heard on the radio.
clint van damme
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DUP MP insists party is not bluffing over threat to vote against Budget over Brexit
Jim Shannon quoted as saying the DUP wouldn't be scared of a general election. It may not be an ideal scenario but given the choice between a GE or a border in the Irish sea the DUP will go with the former option every time.
Sick Boy
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It's weird you've never mentioned that when others have posted Farage's call on here
Sick Boy
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It's like something off the CWR phone-in.
Astute
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Are you telling me that you don't only see one side of it all?
And you twist everything anyone says that you don't like. Just like you are doing right now.
One question for you then. Have the millions of people that have come to live in the UK made any difference to the housing crisis we presently have?
Astute
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And I agreed. But you make out that the open borders system has made no difference. And you hate being corrected on it. Just like a few others.
Grendel
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They will reject the deal not bring down the Tory government to allow one who wants a unified Ireland
clint van damme
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yeah, I think that's exactly what they'll do. Probably talking to potential Tory leadership candidates as we speak.
Sick Boy
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LALALALALA!
fernandopartridge
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It's irrelevant whether Corbyn wants a unified Ireland or not, it's down to the people of N.I. to decide
Sick Boy
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I don't think many in Britain would actually be all that bothered if the north decided to join the Republic
Grendel
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But it’s not irrelevant that a political party deeply opposed to it would willingly play a part in electing a leader who wants it and who has a long association with the republican movement.
Grendel
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No I certainly wouldn’t if that’s what they wanted
skybluetony176
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If you’re capable of understanding it I actually haven’t said any such thing. When I said that its down to decades of successive governments failing to invest in the infrastructure that our growing economy demands that includes enough housing to house the immigration that our growing economy demands. They’re intrinsically connected which is why I’ve always also said that you have two options, shrink the economy to the point that it suits our infrastructure or invest in the infrastructure to keep up. It’s our economy that demands immigration and therefore an investment in infrastructure to accommodate a growing population to accommodate a growing economy. It’s a failure to invest that’s the issue which ever direction you want to look at it, unless of course you want to shrink the economy to alleviate the problem.
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fernandopartridge
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That's a hell of a jump though Grendel, from general election to a definite Labour government.
skybluetony176
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Apparently Gove has just turned down the position of Brexit Secretary, this is one of the leaders of the official brexit campaign who wanted the PM’s job when Cameron resigned. He’s looking more and more like a bregretter every week. Doesn’t want the job of delivering it and seems to back May (publicly at least) at every turn. It can’t be the same guy can it?
fellatio_Martinez
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Yeah and it would cause all kinds of turmoil that would make Brexit look like a tea party.
The unionists in N.Ireland would go mental. If you think the DUP are bad imagine how their orange men, no surrender brigade would react.
I think N.Ireland needs another few decades before a vote for an all Ireland wouldn't be met with a civil war.
Sick Boy
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Most of the people I work with in their 20s didn't realise that Northern Ireland was part of the UK until recently, which I found shocking.
Unionists applying for Irish passports would have been rare before, who knows how it will play out in the coming years. There's is not exactly an overwhelming desire in Ireland for the north to be reunited with it though, probably a majority, but not a significant one.
skybluetony176
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I think you would be surprised. They’ll be enclaves of hardened unionist willing to do stupid things but the majority of Protestants and Catholics have enjoyed the piece and prosperity that they’ve had over the last couple of decades and want that to continue. They just want to go to work uninhibited regardless of which county that’s in and which side of the border it is, pay their mortgage and provide for their families. That’s looking increasingly easier in a united Ireland than it is in a brexit Britain. Economics is going to be the driving factor in uniting Ireland.
fernandopartridge
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There is also doubt over the long standing assumption that everybody in the south wants to unite with the north.
Would the south want to take on some of the public spending obligations? I doubt it very much as Ireland has lower levels of taxation than the UK.
Sick Boy
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Also I am not sure it would want to take on the inevitable issues that it would cause and the spending it would need.
clint van damme
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fairly sure they had a constitutional claim to the north which they relinquished as part of the GFA.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
That's correct.
Captain Dart
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Another no confidence letter to Chairman of 1922 committee
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Henry Smith has submitted one as well.
Anyone else see a minister who admitted to making up statistics live on Radio5 saying 80% of the public backed May's deal, it really is a farce, regardless of which side you're on, a lot of these aren't fit for purpose.
Captain Dart
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Business back it, because it is no change for them but the public see it as an unacceptable failure, half want to reverse the decision and half say sod it lets just walk out and see how the EU like that. Fasten your seat belts we are heading for heavy turbulence.
fellatio_Martinez
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I spent years working in Belfast as well as having family from here. So I'm not just coming at this from an outsiders standpoint.
Society has moved on but there's still hatred and divide in the air. A few years ago they decided to not fly the union jack everyday from the city hall and the unionists rioted for a week. They caused millions of pounds of damage because of a flag.... So imagine what they'd do at the proposition of "their country" being taken away?
Also, there's a lot of Catholic people in N.Ireland getting British benefits they would never get in the south and it's a rip off down there too so I doubt even as many nationalists would vote for a united Ireland than one would assume.
Better the devil you know.