The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (147 Viewers)

[martcov]

As I said it would depend on what they counted as what would count against someone getting residency. Parking tickets is your normal piss take. But why should a hardened criminal be allowed to stay in any country? This isn't just the UK.

Parking tickets is not my normal piss take, I way quoting from the link that I posted.

Your comprehension is terrible.

We will now lose access to the EU Schengen data base on criminals. I don’t see that as a positive.

 

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[Sick Boy]

I have explained why you are wrong. There has been several times I have proven you wrong where you just come out with comments like this or even insults to try and make yourself look right. But yet again it is obvious.

Point out what is wrong.

We are allowed to have talks on trade deals with anyone but we are not allowed to sign anything until we have left.

We are not allowed to have talks with any EU country on trade as they have agreements as a trading union. And we can't have talks on a trade agreement with the EU as they refuse to.

As I’ve said, if you can’t work out why with talk of deregulation and the GFA, it’s your problem.

 

[martcov]

So everyone who pulled you up on racist comments were wrong because you try to find excuses for them? Someone who is supposed to be as pro EU as yourself would normally vote UKIP whatever your excuses are?

Mart pulled you up on it. Others who agree with your latest twisted logic on this thread had a go at you. Sick Boy wasn't happy with you at all. But now your bullshit is on a subject they agree with everything is suddenly OK.

I missed the monkey boy comment so don’t know the context.

Tony explained his mistake voting for a party led by the scum, Farage.

I pulled him up on marching with someone who retweets right wing extremists, who I believed was bringing City fans into disrepute being a part organisor of anti SISU Protests.

Nowhere did I accuse Tony himself of being a racist or making a racist comment ( I don’t know the context of his comment, but he seems to have explained your misinterpretation).

Your comprehension is terrible.

 

[martcov]

I don't give a toss?

More like I detest lies and liars.

For once a truthful post from you other than the last few words. And it is actually an admission that I am right. The EU wants to keep everything as it is. If they offered us a trade agreement it would be one major reason for not remaining.

So now you have admitted that I am right how about explaining why I have a comprehensive problem on the matter.

You are not right in saying that the EU is refusing to talk about my rights, and the rights of all EU citizens. They don’t want us to lose rights that we now have. That applies to existing EU migrants in the UK, not to future EU migrants when we are no longer in the EU. So it is not the same.

If we end up with a Norway style agreement, which is about what Corbyn was asking for, then things will stay the same, although Corbyn wasn’t for FOM as it is now.

Basically, we cannot 100% settle EU citizens rights until we know how we are leaving.

 

[Astute]

As I’ve said, if you can’t work out why with talk of deregulation and the GFA, it’s your problem.

So why can't you or anyone else explain why we couldn't talk a trade deal?

Exactly. There is nothing to say we can't. It is just part of the plot to jeep us in the EU. I want us to stay in the EU. I am waiting for the 100% nod on my family waiting to move to France. But I couldn't be like yourself and ignore the truth and make out others to be wrong when they are not.

The problem so far with Brexit is those which don't have a clue what is going on (this includes those supposedly taking us out) and those who constantly twist the truth (people like Boris and Mart.....and yourself at times)

It will stay a shitfest for as long as people chat shite. And if this thread is anything to go by the vast majority said is shite spoken by those who haven't got a clue what they are saying or are happy chatting shite all the time.

 

[Astute]

You are not right in saying that the EU is refusing to talk about my rights, and the rights of all EU citizens. They don’t want us to lose rights that we now have. That applies to existing EU migrants in the UK, not to future EU migrants when we are no longer in the EU. So it is not the same.

If we end up with a Norway style agreement, which is about what Corbyn was asking for, then things will stay the same, although Corbyn wasn’t for FOM as it is now.

Basically, we cannot 100% settle EU citizens rights until we know how we are leaving.

So far off the mark as usual Mart. All it takes is an agreement that anyone who has moved to another country before our leave date has the right to stay. But the EU prefers the threat of you only having rights in that country alone. So the EU has refused to have talks until they have given their best shot to jeep the UK in the EU. They have ignored the doubt and upset caused by those who live elsewhere. The countries in the EU understand this and have tried to stop people from worrying what their futures hold.

So are you saying these countries are doing something illegal? And why do you have a go at the UK for not offering more to those who have settled here when you say the UK isn't allowed to offer more now? So here we go. Change what you say depending on the subject at the time.

But you still defend the EU.

 

[Astute]

I missed the monkey boy comment so don’t know the context.

Tony explained his mistake voting for a party led by the scum, Farage.

I pulled him up on marching with someone who retweets right wing extremists, who I believed was bringing City fans into disrepute being a part organisor of anti SISU Protests.

Nowhere did I accuse Tony himself of being a racist or making a racist comment ( I don’t know the context of his comment, but he seems to have explained your misinterpretation).

Your comprehension is terrible.

Lots pulled him up on wanting to go on a March with a racist. Yet he continued to make out there was nothing wrong with it. Has this part failed your memory?

 

[skybluetony176]

So everyone who pulled you up on racist comments were wrong because you try to find excuses for them? Someone who is supposed to be as pro EU as yourself would normally vote UKIP whatever your excuses are?

Mart pulled you up on it. Others who agree with your latest twisted logic on this thread had a go at you. Sick Boy wasn't happy with you at all. But now your bullshit is on a subject they agree with everything is suddenly OK.

I suggest you read sickboys post on the subject just above yours. We’ve moved on but you’re still waffling nonsense. Stop attacking the man and try debating the points.

 

[skybluetony176]

Exactly my point. The whole thing is a scam by vested interests. People who own hedge funds with ROW portfolios, people who benefit from tax havens, and the demagogues who are cashing in on the rage created by disinformation in the papers owned by billionaire non residents and by expert use of social media by companies part owned or part led by neo fascists like Bannon.

Where are the tangible upsides?

Cheaper oranges and Brexit day.

(Edit) almost forgot, we’ll be able to sell twice as many pigs ears to China.

 

[Astute]

I suggest you read sickboys post on the subject just above yours. We’ve moved on but you’re still waffling nonsense. Stop attacking the man and try debating the points.

We've moved on?

I'm showing how much shite you come out with. You constantly try to say I come out with shite but show no evidence. And I don't like taking shite from someone like yourself. What you have said in the past shows it.

Stop coming out with shite about me and I will stop showing the real you.

 

[skybluetony176]

Lots pulled him up on wanting to go on a March with a racist. Yet he continued to make out there was nothing wrong with it. Has this part failed your memory?

Do you go to games with a racist?

 

[skybluetony176]

We've moved on?

I'm showing how much shite you come out with. You constantly try to say I come out with shite but show no evidence. And I don't like taking shite from someone like yourself. What you have said in the past shows it.

Stop coming out with shite about me and I will stop showing the real you.

You can’t even discuss the point and attack the man instead with bullshit and then accuse others of talking shite.

 

[Astute]

Do you go to games with a racist?

No I do not. And I don't do anything with a racist except for give them a piece of my mind. You however are the opposite and you tried arguing the fact that it isn't a problem doing things with a racist.

 

[Astute]

You can’t even discuss the point and attack the man instead with bullshit and then accuse others of talking shite.

I have tried talking about the point raised. Yet all I got back is that I am clueless. I raise other poi rd that back up what I am saying. Yet I am supposedly still clueless but those calling me so still haven't come up with anything that shows me to be wrong. And you are one of them.

Attack you with bullshit? Every bit of what I have said is the truth and you know it. So dies everyone else. You mention that someone has got over what you said to him. But that doesn't take away the fact of what you have previously said.

If you were like me and had a half Asian daughter you might understand. I also have a lot of black friends. I have seen the hurt and distress caused by comments from people like yourself that don't even know you are causing offence. Just like when you called them Brown people. I tried to explain but you thought it was cool and didn't understand the problem with calling people Brown. Then you want me to ignore what you have said in the past. Especially when you start with the insults.

OK Tony have it your way. There isn't a racist bone in your body. You have never made a racist comment. You never tried to drum up support to go on a March with a racist. And you had the perfect reason for voting UKIP.

Goodbye. Not going to waste another second on someone like yourself.

 

[skybluetony176]

I have tried talking about the point raised. Yet all I got back is that I am clueless. I raise other poi rd that back up what I am saying. Yet I am supposedly still clueless but those calling me so still haven't come up with anything that shows me to be wrong. And you are one of them.

Attack you with bullshit? Every bit of what I have said is the truth and you know it. So dies everyone else. You mention that someone has got over what you said to him. But that doesn't take away the fact of what you have previously said.

If you were like me and had a half Asian daughter you might understand. I also have a lot of black friends. I have seen the hurt and distress caused by comments from people like yourself that don't even know you are causing offence. Just like when you called them Brown people. I tried to explain but you thought it was cool and didn't understand the problem with calling people Brown. Then you want me to ignore what you have said in the past. Especially when you start with the insults.

OK Tony have it your way. There isn't a racist bone in your body. You have never made a racist comment. You never tried to drum up support to go on a March with a racist. And you had the perfect reason for voting UKIP.

Goodbye. Not going to waste another second on someone like yourself.

Ha ha ha ha. What a ridiculous person you are. Playing the victim yet again.

 

[skybluetony176]

No I do not. And I don't do anything with a racist except for give them a piece of my mind. You however are the opposite and you tried arguing the fact that it isn't a problem doing things with a racist.

So you’re boycotting then. Because last I heard the person you’re labelling a racist goes to games. Were all 3000 on the march racists or are you just labelling me with that tag. Even though I didn’t actually go on it.

 

[Astute]

So you’re boycotting then. Because last I heard the person you’re labelling a racist goes to games. Were all 3000 on the march racists or are you just labelling me with that tag. Even though I didn’t actually go on it.

This is how pathetic you are. So we all go with each other now.

 

[skybluetony176]

This is how pathetic you are. So we all go with each other now.

I’m sorry. I didn’t realise that was a special status just for me. So everyone else can go on the march and not be a racist but I point out that it’s not an EDL march, don’t go to the march anyway but yet I somehow get the special privilege of being labelled a racist by you. The same person goes to games but we don’t all go together. Why have you given me this special status? Your interaction with this individual is the same as mine. What next? Trust meetings are really KKK meetings? Why do you always insist on being so ridiculous to avoid the actual point being discussed?

 

[Astute]

I’m sorry. I didn’t realise that was a special status just for me. So everyone else can go on the march and not be a racist but I point out that it’s not an EDL march, don’t go to the march anyway but yet I somehow get the special privilege of being labelled a racist by you. The same person goes to games but we don’t all go together. Why have you given me this special status? Your interaction with this individual is the same as mine. What next? Trust meetings are really KKK meetings? Why do you always insist on being so ridiculous to avoid the actual point being discussed?

You wanted to go side by side with a racist. You wanted to stand alongside him. You tried to get everyone here to stand alongside him.

Yet it is the same as a football game he doesn't organise or have anything to do with.

It certainly is time to leave you to find another idiot who will continue to bite on the bullshit you come out with to take the piss out of.

 

[skybluetony176]

You wanted to go side by side with a racist. You wanted to stand alongside him. You tried to get everyone here to stand alongside him.

Yet it is the same as a football game he doesn't organise or have anything to do with.

It certainly is time to leave you to find another idiot who will continue to bite on the bullshit you come out with to take the piss out of.

OK, so it’s a special status for me then. How very neutral of you.

I wanted to stand along side all CCFC fans attending the march and stand on the side of the purpose of the march and yes I wanted others to do the same on that principle. Not sure why you feel I and I alone have a special status where I need to apologise for that.

The Trust always advertise our next game on their site. Perhaps you should boycott games on that principle.

There you go making out you’re the victim again. All of this nonsense you started in response to a reply I made to a post you made about brexit. You are the one who took it off on a tangent instead of discussing what I actually posted not me. Did you really think I would sit back and take your childish insinuations that I’m a racist on the chin? You were the one looking for the fight not me. Glad you recognise that you’re an idiot though.

 

[Nick]

Looks like we've just taken a step closer to eating animal shit and rat hair.

Is the move to Nuneaton on now then?

 

[Astute]

OK, so it’s a special status for me then. How very neutral of you.

I wanted to stand along side all CCFC fans attending the march and stand on the side of the purpose of the march and yes I wanted others to do the same on that principle. Not sure why you feel I and I alone have a special status where I need to apologise for that.

The Trust always advertise our next game on their site. Perhaps you should boycott games on that principle.

There you go making out you’re the victim again. All of this nonsense you started in response to a reply I made to a post you made about brexit. You are the one who took it off on a tangent instead of discussing what I actually posted not me. Did you really think I would sit back and take your childish insinuations that I’m a racist on the chin? You were the one looking for the fight not me. Glad you recognise that you’re an idiot though.

I'm a victim because I want nothing to do with racists? Everyone who tried to get you to understand that they wanted nothing to do with a racist are all victims?

You don't half make yourself look a twat.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm a victim because I want nothing to do with racists? Everyone who tried to get you to understand that they wanted nothing to do with a racist are all victims?

You don't half make yourself look a twat.

So you are boycotting games then?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So how are we all today then? Keeping well?

 

[Grappa]

So how are we all today then? Keeping well?

Fine thanks! I have discovered the magic of the 'ignore' button. Never in my time on the internet have I before needed to block anyone, but my word is it good for the blood pressure.

 

[martcov]

So how are we all today then? Keeping well?

I’m fine. Tony is taking all the flak today. I’m getting on with my job. Pressure off at the moment. Very busy so pleased for the respite.

 

[martcov]

Another little story.. Nigel Lawson has withdrawn his right of abode application to reside in France. They need to see that he has been paying tax in France.

 

[Astute]

I’m fine. Tony is taking all the flak today. I’m getting on with my job. Pressure off at the moment. Very busy so pleased for the respite.

Does this mean that you agree with the diatribe he has been coming out with but you have been too busy to defend him as usual?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I’m fine. Tony is taking all the flak today. I’m getting on with my job. Pressure off at the moment. Very busy so pleased for the respite.

...Christ, you must be exhausted.

 

[Sick Boy]

Does this mean that you agree with the diatribe he has been coming out with but you have been too busy to defend him as usual?

I’m starting to come to the conclusion that you’re only on this thread for a row

 

[Astute]

I’m starting to come to the conclusion that you’re only on this thread for a row

Am I?

Would you like to explain how?

I hate liars and lies. Point out where I have caused an argument by being untruthful. I can point out where lies and misinformation from others has caused arguments because others don't like being caught out. And the usual still back them up.

So you refer to Tony I suppose. Would you have joined alongside him and a racist on a march? Do you count yourself as going to games with racists because some could well be at the same game?

I suppose you won't answer as you usually defend him or attack me for pointing out the rubbish he comes out with. And all because I don't constantly attack one side and defend the other whatever the subject is about.

 

[Sick Boy]

Am I?

Would you like to explain how?

I hate liars and lies. Point out where I have caused an argument by being untruthful. I can point out where lies and misinformation from others has caused arguments because others don't like being caught out. And the usual still back them up.

So you refer to Tony I suppose. Would you have joined alongside him and a racist on a march? Do you count yourself as going to games with racists because some could well be at the same game?

I suppose you won't answer as you usually defend him or attack me for pointing out the rubbish he comes out with. And all because I don't constantly attack one side and defend the other whatever the subject is about.

You seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time on this thread attacking remain voters, it’s getting bizarre.

If I were you I’d carry on putting your energy and time into challenging the actual racists on this forum.

 

[Grappa]

 

[Grappa]

 

[martcov]

Am I?

Would you like to explain how?

I hate liars and lies. Point out where I have caused an argument by being untruthful. I can point out where lies and misinformation from others has caused arguments because others don't like being caught out. And the usual still back them up.

So you refer to Tony I suppose. Would you have joined alongside him and a racist on a march? Do you count yourself as going to games with racists because some could well be at the same game?

I suppose you won't answer as you usually defend him or attack me for pointing out the rubbish he comes out with. And all because I don't constantly attack one side and defend the other whatever the subject is about.

I am not going through it yet again. You are constantly being corrected. Either you lie or you comprehend badly. Or both. You are not a neutral pillar of integrity. Even if you truly think you are.