Jordan Willis (3 Viewers)

[Hobo]

Don't think he will be disappointed.
Apparently had verbally agreed to join Luton.
Compare luton and Sunderland and the only thing Luton has going for it is standard of football. Add CCFC into the equation and, lets be honest here, out of the 3, (lets also throw Bristol City in too-rumored to have spoken to him) Sunderland- better ground, training facilities, fans in attendance, wages available to offer and also potential to play Championship football season after this.
This is a better move than to Luton for him by a country mile if we are looking at his life in general.

Bang on. Championship teams dont always deliver Championship experience. Sunderland is a good punt at furthering your career as well as delivering short term returns.

 

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[Grendel]

Out of interest you have judged him Hyam as average at this level....so who in your opinion is better?

Willis is clearly better. Average is hardly bad but the notion he’s a stand out defender at this level is far fetched

 

[CanadianCCFC]

Biggest rivals? Have a day off

“biggest rivals in this division”
Who then?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Willis is clearly better. Average is hardly bad but the notion he’s a stand out defender at this level is far fetched

I think I agree that Willis is excellent at this level and hyam is good with the potential to be very good

 

[JulianDarbyFTW]

The thing with Willis is that he's consistently good. Very unusual for him to have a stinker. That's a rarity at this level.

 

[withnail]

Don't think he will be disappointed.
Apparently had verbally agreed to join Luton.
Compare luton and Sunderland and the only thing Luton has going for it is standard of football. Add CCFC into the equation and, lets be honest here, out of the 3, (lets also throw Bristol City in too-rumored to have spoken to him) Sunderland- better ground, training facilities, fans in attendance, wages available to offer and also potential to play Championship football season after this.
This is a better move than to Luton for him by a country mile if we are looking at his life in general.

Agreed, still think he could do betterthough.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

The thing with Willis is that he's consistently good. Very unusual for him to have a stinker. That's a rarity at this level.

Agreed. Haven’t seen consistency mentioned much, but surely a key thing if you’re recruiting for a pro football club.

He is consistently at (or possibly above) league 1 level. He probably now earns considerably more than he did. He’s gone to a club that we hope to compete with this season — that is the ‘annoying’ bit (if any of it is annoying).

All the best to him, can’t have been an easy choice.

 

[Kieranp96]

Slightly pissed off he left to progress his career, to me it seems like his agent promised him a championship club and failed to deliver ohwell hyam is far more reliable as a centre half and this Morgan Williams can be something special in the near future just hope willis is injured for the cov games otherwise he will be in for a lot of stick because well you know our fans.

 

[Kieranp96]

Agreed. Haven’t seen consistency mentioned much, but surely a key thing if you’re recruiting for a pro football club.

He is consistently at (or possibly above) league 1 level. He probably now earns considerably more than he did. He’s gone to a club that we hope to compete with this season — that is the ‘annoying’ bit (if any of it is annoying).

All the best to him, can’t have been an easy choice.

I think we have just as much chance if not a better chance if going up than Sunderland tbh, Sunderland have lost a lot of players and have failed to replace them, there lad leaving in January last season cost them promotion and they are yet to replace him.

 

[Adge]

Oh well, seems he’s gone for the money then. Some good memories but also was part of that garbage team team which got relegated to L2 which some people seem to forget-his stock was at his lowest but people commend him for being loyal for some reason.

 

[David O'Day]

Thought he would sign for a better team than sunderland

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[covcity4life]

Good player. Helped us have some great memories

We look to have depth in that position

Good luck to him. Not too much luck though

 

[robbiekeane]

Championship obviously didn’t materialise.

Out of interest how much do you think he will be earning now?

 

[Kieranp96]

Championship obviously didn’t materialise.

Out of interest how much do you think he will be earning now?

Probably around 7/10k

 

[Great_Expectations]

The first couple of yards is in the head, you don't always need pace to deal with pace. As long as you don't drop back 5 yards deeper than everyone else like that useless Scottish centre half we had a few years ago. Name escapes me...

Exactly this. Pace is obviously a massive asset but it isn’t vital and can be mitigated by good positioning and footballing intelligence. By all accounts McFadzean has a lot of experience and while slow, I don’t expect him to be caught for pace.

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

Am I the only one who is not bothered that Willis has gone ?
We all know his main attribute is his pace and this got us out of trouble at times however with Robins wanting to play the ball out from the back, I feel that in Hyam and Mcfadzen we have better ball playing defenders albeit slower
Teddy Sherringham didn’t have pace but his footballing brain got him the better of much quicker defenders.
The same with Hyam and Mcfadzen.

 

[Garryb80]

Am I the only one who is not bothered that Willis has gone ?
We all know his main attribute is his pace and this got us out of trouble at times however with Robins wanting to play the ball out from the back, I feel that in Hyam and Mcfadzen we have better ball playing defenders albeit slower
Teddy Sherringham didn’t have pace but his footballing brain got him the better of much quicker defenders.
The same with Hyam and Mcfadzen.

It isn't so much we are bothered he has gone its the fact he appears to have forgotten his reasons given for leaving in the first place. Had he joined any championship side not one person on here wold have an objection. That he has joined a team in our division just smacks of money over ambition.

 

[ccfc1234]

It isn't so much we are bothered he has gone its the fact he appears to have forgotten his reasons given for leaving in the first place. Had he joined any championship side not one person on here wold have an objection. That he has joined a team in our division just smacks of money over ambition.

A career in politics awaits for him afterwards. His obvious ability to be Disingenuous will stand him in good stead.

 

[PVA]

It isn't so much we are bothered he has gone its the fact he appears to have forgotten his reasons given for leaving in the first place. Had he joined any championship side not one person on here wold have an objection. That he has joined a team in our division just smacks of money over ambition.

Who cares though?

Money talks.

I don't blame him at all and have no ill will towards him whatsoever.

 

[Ricketts]

You also have to take into account personal life etc. Not sure how diverse Sunderland is. Not as much as Coventry I suspect.

Lee Burge is up there and they have played together many years so that will help him settle, dont underestimate the lure of a friendly face.

Look how many came from Portsmouth to us, for example. I would imagine that was a similar situation for Portsmouth fans.

 

[higgs]

He had the build of a heavy weight boxer but always felt he was a bit soft could easily get bullied and on a few occasions he made very costly howlers and costly sending offs. I don't think he's much better than championship level don't see him making it in the premier league

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[Covkid1968#]

I wish him all the best..... Sunderland will be expecting him to deliver so there will be pressure. But he owes us nothing and all our energy should be directed at our team of players who can make a real name for themselves this season. I’m really looking forward to seeing how they gel ... PUSB

 

[Esoterica]

It isn't so much we are bothered he has gone its the fact he appears to have forgotten his reasons given for leaving in the first place. Had he joined any championship side not one person on here wold have an objection. That he has joined a team in our division just smacks of money over ambition.

It's not like he announced a pre-planned move to Sunderland the morning after our season finished, he's clearly been trying to get a higher move. If in the end, despite a couple of trials, he couldn't get a championship team, what should he have done? Force his family to move abroad? Gone to Wimbledon or Accrington? Or join the biggest, highest paying other club in our division.

 

[ccfc1234]

It's not like he announced a pre-planned move to Sunderland the morning after our season finished, he's clearly been trying to get a higher move. If in the end, despite a couple of trials, he couldn't get a championship team, what should he have done? Force his family to move abroad? Gone to Wimbledon or Accrington? Or join the biggest, highest paying other club in our division.

You forgot the very obvious other option. Sign the deal he had on the table with us? As somone said earlier money talks tho.

 

[Esoterica]

You forgot the very obvious other option. Sign the deal he had on the table with us? As somone said earlier money talks tho.

I didn't forget that, the deal was gone as soon as the season ended. Robins said as much in one of his interviews - that they shook hands at the end of the season and that was that. He wanted a Championship club and didn't get it for reasons we don't know. He's taken the next best option.

 

[pusbccfc]

“biggest rivals in this division”
Who then?

Sunderland aren't rivals in anyway really.

They are soppy because we sent them down, they haven't won anything since 1973 and we smashed them for the City Of Culture award.

 

[skyblueelephant76]

It isn't so much we are bothered he has gone its the fact he appears to have forgotten his reasons given for leaving in the first place. Had he joined any championship side not one person on here wold have an objection. That he has joined a team in our division just smacks of money over ambition.

Sunderland are a much better bet for promotion than us, just as Sheff Utd were when Fleck left.

Whilst he's obviously getting more money he has also joined a currently bigger club than us, don't see how that's lacking ambition.

 

[Garryb80]

Sunderland are a much better bet for promotion than us, just as Sheff Utd were when Fleck left.

Whilst he's obviously getting more money he has also joined a currently bigger club than us, don't see how that's lacking ambition.

How so? They finished only 3 places ahead of us and didnt beat us either. Now have a weaker squad.

 

[skyblueelephant76]

How so? They finished only 3 places ahead of us and didnt beat us either. Now have a weaker squad.

They finished 20 points above us. They they have strengthend their defence, they have players like Will Grigg (who they spent £3m on in Jan) who will get a full season and they are still after more players.
They are easily a better bet for promotion than us. We've got people losing their heads after putting 4 past Leamington when we have a lot of unknowns in the team who may or may not do it at League one level.

 

[Grendel]

How so? They finished only 3 places ahead of us and didnt beat us either. Now have a weaker squad.

They were 7 wins better than us in terms of points - there is no chance we will get promoted without more goals in the squad

 

[Adge]

They were 7 wins better than us in terms of points - there is no chance we will get promoted without more goals in the squad

Indeed. Laughable really when you see some of the comments flying around that we are nailed on for the playoffs or even top 2!

 

[Garryb80]

They finished 20 points above us. They they have strengthend their defence, they have players like Will Grigg (who they spent £3m on in Jan) who will get a full season and they are still after more players.
They are easily a better bet for promotion than us. We've got people losing their heads after putting 4 past Leamington when we have a lot of unknowns in the team who may or may not do it at League one level.

The same grigg who did nothing last season? I just cant agree they look much stronger right now

 

[Sbarcher]

He is on £10k/week up there. Not too shabby!

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

He is on £10k/week up there. Not too shabby!

Where does that come from? Not that I don’t believe it, just curious if he actually is, or if it’s one of those fan things, ‘cos if I was a pro footballer I wouldn’t want my wages to be public knowledge the day after I signed for all sorts of reasons...

 

[Sbarcher]

Where does that come from? Not that I don’t believe it, just curious if he actually is, or if it’s one of those fan things, ‘cos if I was a pro footballer I wouldn’t want my wages to be public knowledge the day after I signed for all sorts of reasons...

Seems a common figure from our friends in the North.