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Brighton Sky Blue

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SkyblueBazza said:
Maybe, but remember experts once said the earth is flat, the sun went around the earth, man could not fly...the list is endless

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Imagine if Corbyn wanted to build a £15 billion bridge to Gerry Adams’ front door
 
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skybluetony176

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It's not exactly the same is it.

Also when they say it can't be built they're often talking more in economic viability than technical possibility. It may be technical issues due to geology or wind during storms or something (I have no idea) Technically they could build a bridge between London and Paris - doesn't mean it makes sense to do it. Theoretically a mile high skyscraper is possible.

If you look at where Stranraer is in relation to NI t would seem an odd starting point for a bridge. For ferries it makes sense because it's in a bay and thus a bit more protected.

I wonder if his next plan to appease the DUP will be a bridge from Blackpool or Barrow-in-Furness to Belfast using the IoM as a support pillar.
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Boris first muted this idea about 18months ago and it was widely laughed at. Technically things would have to happen that have never happened before as the Irish Sea is unusually deep for a sea of its width and there’s busy shipping lanes so the two things combined means that they’d have to build the biggest pylons ever constructed and by some margin. It’s pretty unanimous that without a new technology building materiel that would have to be invented specifically for this project it isn’t going to happen and that’s if it’s at all possible. Then there’s issues like the weather. I’ve crossed by ferry enough times from Holyhead, Liverpool and Stranraer to Dublin, Belfast, Larne and the IOM for that matter to know that it’s a rough old sea at the best of times and the best of times are far outweighed by the worst of times. Then there’s the issue that the sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland has been a dump for scrap ammunition’s for decades.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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skybluetony176 said:
Boris first muted this idea about 18months ago and it was widely laughed at. Technically things would have to happen that have never happened before as the Irish Sea is unusually deep for a sea of its width and there’s busy shipping lanes so the two things combined means that they’d have to build the biggest pylons ever constructed and by some margin. It’s pretty unanimous that without a new technology building materiel that would have to be invented specifically for this project it isn’t going to happen and that’s if it’s at all possible. Then there’s issues like the weather. I’ve crossed by ferry enough times from Holyhead, Liverpool and Stranraer to Dublin, Belfast, Larne and the IOM for that matter to know that it’s a rough old sea at the best of times and the best of times are far outweighed by the worst of times. Then there’s the issue that the sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland has been a dump for scrap ammunition’s for decades.
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Come on stop being negative
 
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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
We live in an era where the longest bridges, tallest bridges, deepest tunnels, longest tunnels, tallest buildings are being built. The suggestion that it can’t be built is in an era where construction technology has been pushed to the absolute limits. The people saying this are experts in their field not members of flat earth society using the tensile strength of wood to form an opinion on wether it’s possible or not.
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And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!

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SkyblueBazza said:
And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!

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One limiting factor wasn’t. People saying it could be done.
 
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SkyblueBazza said:
And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!

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Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
 
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
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Cure for poverty. Make a minimum wage £10 and then stealth tax the he’ll out of them to make them even poorer
 
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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
One limiting factor wasn’t. People saying it could be done.
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And on another thread you said "as an adult"! Well as an adult, you wouldn't offer "People saying it could be done" as a limiting factor - because it is an empowering factor...it inspires people to find a way.

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
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So you wouldn't want a deal?

Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
...no

I don't know when I last called for a 3 way vote. You seem to think otherwise but can't show where. Pretty confused if you don't mind me saying
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So you want to stay in the EU & put the vote to the people in a 2 option referendum...to revoke article 50 or leave without a deal?

Yep, you are pretty confused about what you want aren't you?

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Ian1779

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Not really. If anything he is trying to be pragmatic about breaking the impasse.

If there was a 3 way vote, Leavers would be up in arms that the leave vote could be split, allowing remain to come through comfortably.

And I although I don’t agree with the 2 options he has proposed - he is right that there are so many entrenched positions now. A lot of leavers won’t accept any deal other than no-deal because it’s not ‘Brexity’ enough - and a lot of remainers only want another vote because they expect remain to win and then we scrap Brexit.

If anything the people in the middle that want some kind of soft/orderly exit are now in the minority... certainly the vocal minority at least.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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SkyblueBazza said:
So you want to stay in the EU & put the vote to the people in a 2 option referendum...to revoke article 50 or leave without a deal?

Yep, you are pretty confused about what you want aren't you?

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What on Earth are you on about?
 
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Astute said:
So you wouldn't want a deal?

Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
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He assumes the vote would be to stay

The legally binding aspect is ridiculous
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ian1779 said:
Not really. If anything he is trying to be pragmatic about breaking the impasse.

If there was a 3 way vote, Leavers would be up in arms that the leave vote could be split, allowing remain to come through comfortably.

And I although I don’t agree with the 2 options he has proposed - he is right that there are so many entrenched positions now. A lot of leavers won’t accept any deal other than no-deal because it’s not ‘Brexity’ enough - and a lot of remainers only want another vote because they expect remain to win and then we scrap Brexit.

If anything the people in the middle that want some kind of soft/orderly exit are now in the minority... certainly the vocal minority at least.
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It’s not happening anyway

Swinson is now like a lower league football manager signing every free agent going

Two more signings last week taking the squad to 18

They have stated it’s revoke and ignore any referendum result

Game over
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
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Rentagob Swansong has already let it slip that the Literal Undemocrats would not respect another leave verdict in a 2nd referendum.

It’s not difficult to see why leavers don’t trust your side.
 
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SIR ERNIE said:
Rentagob Swansong has already let it slip that the Literal Undemocrats would not respect another leave verdict in a 2nd referendum.

It’s not difficult to see why leavers don’t trust your side.
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That's not quite right, is it. She's saying she'll stand in an election on a platform of revoking Article 50 without going to a referendum.

Given you righties spend your time running scared of a second referendum and wanting to deny democracy, you ought to be all for that.
 
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Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not quite right, is it. She's saying she'll stand in an election on a platform of revoking Article 50 without going to a referendum.

Given you righties spend your time running scared of a second referendum and wanting to deny democracy, you ought to be all for that.
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By definition if there is a referendum she’d ignore its validity if remain lost
 
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