Brighton Sky Blue
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So now you don't want leave with a deal as an option? You change your mind as quick as Jeremy Corbyn on this don't you?
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I never said I did?
So now you don't want leave with a deal as an option? You change your mind as quick as Jeremy Corbyn on this don't you?
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Maybe, but remember experts once said the earth is flat, the sun went around the earth, man could not fly...the list is endless
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It's not exactly the same is it.
Also when they say it can't be built they're often talking more in economic viability than technical possibility. It may be technical issues due to geology or wind during storms or something (I have no idea) Technically they could build a bridge between London and Paris - doesn't mean it makes sense to do it. Theoretically a mile high skyscraper is possible.
If you look at where Stranraer is in relation to NI t would seem an odd starting point for a bridge. For ferries it makes sense because it's in a bay and thus a bit more protected.
I wonder if his next plan to appease the DUP will be a bridge from Blackpool or Barrow-in-Furness to Belfast using the IoM as a support pillar.
Come on stop being negativeBoris first muted this idea about 18months ago and it was widely laughed at. Technically things would have to happen that have never happened before as the Irish Sea is unusually deep for a sea of its width and there’s busy shipping lanes so the two things combined means that they’d have to build the biggest pylons ever constructed and by some margin. It’s pretty unanimous that without a new technology building materiel that would have to be invented specifically for this project it isn’t going to happen and that’s if it’s at all possible. Then there’s issues like the weather. I’ve crossed by ferry enough times from Holyhead, Liverpool and Stranraer to Dublin, Belfast, Larne and the IOM for that matter to know that it’s a rough old sea at the best of times and the best of times are far outweighed by the worst of times. Then there’s the issue that the sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland has been a dump for scrap ammunition’s for decades.
Come on stop being negative
Well you have suddenly taken it off or omitted it from your ballot slip optionsI never said I did?
And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!We live in an era where the longest bridges, tallest bridges, deepest tunnels, longest tunnels, tallest buildings are being built. The suggestion that it can’t be built is in an era where construction technology has been pushed to the absolute limits. The people saying this are experts in their field not members of flat earth society using the tensile strength of wood to form an opinion on wether it’s possible or not.
Well you have suddenly taken it off or omitted it from your ballot slip options
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And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!
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Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!
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You are ratherIt wasn’t on there to begin with? Bizarre
Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
And on another thread you said "as an adult"! Well as an adult, you wouldn't offer "People saying it could be done" as a limiting factor - because it is an empowering factor...it inspires people to find a way.One limiting factor wasn’t. People saying it could be done.
Yes...loads of proportional money, time &/or effort being spent on all of thoseCure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
You are rather
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In or out?Where have I argued for a 3 way referendum?
In or out?
Went well last time didn't it.
And you woul;dn't offer any of them as a solution by October 31stYes...loads of proportional money, time &/or effort being spent on all of those
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No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
So you have answered all your own questions.No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
So you have answered all your own questions.
No deal or revoke. No option to leave with a deal there is there?
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Are you in favour of leaving the EU?Genuinely, what are you on about?
Are you in favour of leaving the EU?
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So you wouldn't want a deal?No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
So you want to stay in the EU & put the vote to the people in a 2 option referendum...to revoke article 50 or leave without a deal?...no
I don't know when I last called for a 3 way vote. You seem to think otherwise but can't show where. Pretty confused if you don't mind me saying
So you wouldn't want a deal?
Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
So you want to stay in the EU & put the vote to the people in a 2 option referendum...to revoke article 50 or leave without a deal?
Yep, you are pretty confused about what you want aren't you?
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So you wouldn't want a deal?
Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
Not really. If anything he is trying to be pragmatic about breaking the impasse.
If there was a 3 way vote, Leavers would be up in arms that the leave vote could be split, allowing remain to come through comfortably.
And I although I don’t agree with the 2 options he has proposed - he is right that there are so many entrenched positions now. A lot of leavers won’t accept any deal other than no-deal because it’s not ‘Brexity’ enough - and a lot of remainers only want another vote because they expect remain to win and then we scrap Brexit.
If anything the people in the middle that want some kind of soft/orderly exit are now in the minority... certainly the vocal minority at least.
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
That's not quite right, is it. She's saying she'll stand in an election on a platform of revoking Article 50 without going to a referendum.Rentagob Swansong has already let it slip that the Literal Undemocrats would not respect another leave verdict in a 2nd referendum.
It’s not difficult to see why leavers don’t trust your side.
That's not quite right, is it. She's saying she'll stand in an election on a platform of revoking Article 50 without going to a referendum.
Given you righties spend your time running scared of a second referendum and wanting to deny democracy, you ought to be all for that.
That's not quite right, is it.
I give up trying understand youWhat on Earth are you on about?