The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (15 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Stop defending him, deluded

You say that when I'm criticising him in other posts. I asked for quotes or articles, you couldn't find any.

Labour isn't an anti-Semitic party. The Tory membership however has awkwardly admitted it would have a problem with choosing an Asian leader and its current leader has published racist opinions in a national newspaper.

 

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[shmmeee]

The answer was a second referendum and that has been the answer since it was clear that May's deal wasn't going to fly. Instead he kept going on about an election that the public didn't want and that he would probably have lost. Now the party position is to get a GE, win it then renegotiate the deal and then campaign against it in a referendum. It's piss poor.

That’s not the party position at all.

The party position is that Tory Brexit is shit (it is) and Labour will get a better deal cos they don’t have the Tory red lines, then the party will be neutral and allow MPs to campaign for either side. Just like both parties did last time.

 

[shmmeee]

You say that when I'm criticising him in other posts. I asked for quotes or articles, you couldn't find any.

Labour isn't an anti-Semitic party. The Tory membership however has awkwardly admitted it would have a problem with choosing an Asian leader and its current leader has published racist opinions in a national newspaper.

Don’t forget the Tory conference event titled “Tackling Islamophobia” where they meant tackling people accusing them of that. And the promise for an investigation Sajid Javid had to force out of Johnson on live TV that was immediately shelved once he got to power.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Are you capable of posting complete thoughts?

You say that when I'm criticising him in other posts. I asked for quotes or articles, you couldn't find any.

Labour isn't an anti-Semitic party. The Tory membership however has awkwardly admitted it would have a problem with choosing an Asian leader and its current leader has published racist opinions in a national newspaper.

Yes I'm capable of posing complete thoughts, however trying to debate with you 2 is like talking to a brick wall as both of you are deluded

 

[shmmeee]

Yes I'm capable of posing complete thoughts, however trying to debate with you 2 is like talking to a brick wall

Give it a go, you might be surprised.

 

[Grendel]

You say that when I'm criticising him in other posts. I asked for quotes or articles, you couldn't find any.

Labour isn't an anti-Semitic party. The Tory membership however has awkwardly admitted it would have a problem with choosing an Asian leader and its current leader has published racist opinions in a national newspaper.

why are the Jewish community of a difference view?

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...l-brexit-to-jeremy-corbyn-government-1.490590

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

why are the Jewish community of a difference view?

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...l-brexit-to-jeremy-corbyn-government-1.490590

Don't worry, Brighton will come up with more made up rubbish saying they are wrong

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That’s not the party position at all.

The party position is that Tory Brexit is shit (it is) and Labour will get a better deal cos they don’t have the Tory red lines, then the party will be neutral and allow MPs to campaign for either side. Just like both parties did last time.

Correct me if I'm wrong but is that not a pledge to have a referendum on their own renegotiation?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

why are the Jewish community of a difference view?

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...l-brexit-to-jeremy-corbyn-government-1.490590

Perceptions of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party are wildly different from the reality. I'll pose you the same question G-where are the direct quotes from Corbyn where he is hounding after Jews? Where are the Labour policies calling for the eviction of Jews from the UK? They don't exist. What do exist are a small number of genuine bigots at the grass roots who need booting out of the party.

What exists in the Conservative Party is a much more widespread awkwardness around brown people

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don't worry, Brighton will come up with more made up rubbish saying they are wrong

Dude you can find me criticising Corbyn on the same God damn page

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Dude you can find me criticising Corbyn on the same God damn page

Don't cry when labour get smashed at the elections.... that is if chicken agrees to the election

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don't cry when labour get smashed at the elections.... that is if chicken agrees to the election

Do you actually read anything before responding?

 

[Grendel]

Perceptions of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party are wildly different from the reality. I'll pose you the same question G-where are the direct quotes from Corbyn where he is hounding after Jews? Where are the Labour policies calling for the eviction of Jews from the UK? They don't exist. What do exist are a small number of genuine bigots at the grass roots who need booting out of the party.

What exists in the Conservative Party is a much more widespread awkwardness around brown people

Mr Corbyn has an unfortunate list of coincidences - he has an unfortunate ability to stumble on a stage with some people with some rather odd and unpleasant views and then it seems forget they were there

Mr Corbyn has openly supported terrorists organisations which oddly want to blow people up

He claims to deplore violence on both sides but oddly is only ever seen defending one side

I’ve never understood how he can be so unlucky. He always seemed to find himself at Ira funerals and never unionist ones.

He is seen at a commemoration for Jewish assassins at the 1972 olympics and can’t remember if he laid a wreath or not

I do not think if a politician was seen at a klu klux klan rally and did not speak then people would assume the old chap stumbled there by accident but is really lovely and tolerant

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Don't cry when labour get smashed at the elections.... that is if chicken agrees to the election

We've had a vote and decided on our parliament, so get over it.

 

[Grendel]

We've had a vote and decided on our parliament, so get over it.

what vote was that?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

We've had a vote and decided on our parliament, so get over it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA think you need to have a look at yourself before you tell me to 'get over' a vote

 

[Deleted member 5849]

HAHAHAHAHAHA think you need to have a look at yourself before you tell me to 'get over' a vote

Ah, Dim at work again, whooooshing away

 

[Grendel]

Ah, Dim at work again, whooooshing away

Government may support the Lib Dem bill if it’s own fails

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Ah, Dim at work again, whooooshing away

Its true though ain't it, good insult by the way ya mug

 

[shmmeee]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is that not a pledge to have a referendum on their own renegotiation?

It is. But not to campaign against it

 

[Astute]

Nope, you’ve changed what happened even though I explained it to you yesterday. Also, nobody is making excuses for anyone.

Why are you so desperate to defend Grendel? Why can’t you “see both sides” for once as you always claim you do?




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Back to twisting the truth I see. Well done.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Mr Corbyn has openly supported terrorists organisations which oddly want to blow people up

Fact check: is Jeremy Corbyn a ‘terrorist sympathiser’?

That's great G just provide the quote and we're on our way. Meanwhile:

Jacob Rees-Mogg attends a dinner with an established racist-Grendel says it's not the same as endorsing his opinions yet when Corbyn is in the same place as a dodgy character, the reverse doesn't apply.

Boris Johnson produces a racist piece in the Telegraph-crickets from Grendel

Priti Patel argues to use a second famine as negotiating leverage with the Irish-crickets from Grendel

43% of Tory members say they'd have a problem with a Muslim PM-crickets from Grendel. What % of Labour members do you think would have a problem with a Jewish PM?

Brexit and the Tory handling of it has done much more to destabilise the UK than Mr Corbyn in the last 3 years.

 

[Grendel]

Fact check: is Jeremy Corbyn a ‘terrorist sympathiser’?

That's great G just provide the quote and we're on our way. Meanwhile:

Jacob Rees-Mogg attends a dinner with an established racist-Grendel says it's not the same as endorsing his opinions yet when Corbyn is in the same place as a dodgy character, the reverse doesn't apply.

Boris Johnson produces a racist piece in the Telegraph-crickets from Grendel

Priti Patel argues to use a second famine as negotiating leverage with the Irish-crickets from Grendel

43% of Tory members say they'd have a problem with a Muslim PM-crickets from Grendel. What % of Labour members do you think would have a problem with a Jewish PM?

Brexit and the Tory handling of it has done much more to destabilise the UK than Mr Corbyn in the last 3 years.

the odd thing is your deflection when uncomfortable truths are exposed about Mr Corbyn

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It is. But not to campaign against it

But to allow their own MPs to campaign against their own deal.

 

[Astute]

Astute, where are you!?

Grendel has complained about Junker making a racist comment yet he has never once complained about Johnson doing the same. This must be unbearable for you considering how many racist gaffes Johnson has made!?

Oh the irony.

Boris says something you are all over it. Someone from the EU says something you try to put it onto Boris.

Boris says something I comment on it. Someone from the EU says something I comment on it. You try to change the subject. They all should be treated the same.

 

[shmmeee]

But to allow their own MPs to campaign against their own deal.

Yes. Just like last time.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Its true though ain't it, good insult by the way ya mug

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

the odd thing is your deflection when uncomfortable truths are exposed about Mr Corbyn

You're the unsurpassed master of deflection here. I've responded to your points previously and don't see why I need to do so again-the article linked to sums it up. You still can't bring yourself to criticise the current PM for publishing racist views in the Telegraph, which then published more articles in his defence. You can't comment on nearly half of Tory members not wanting a Muslim PM. You argue that police numbers going down by 10,000 under the Tories is fine because per head, there's more than in 1979.

Let's also not forget your grand prediction that Labour would be annihilated in 2017. Just admit you got it wrong

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes. Just like last time.

There was no Labour deal on the table last time. The current position is to negotiate a deal then allow MPs to campaign against it. It's a shite policy

 

[Astute]

Because you're all obsessed with getting your remain anger out and can't keep away. The martcov crown beckons.
I'll be off here in 5 mins as my time is limited. Other things need doing. Putting a curtain pole up. More important than this, believe it or not.

DJR is Martcov.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

DJR is Martcov.

I thought that aswell

 

[shmmeee]

There was no Labour deal on the table last time. The current position is to negotiate a deal then allow MPs to campaign against it. It's a shite policy

Name a better one that isn’t revoke or Johnson’s managed no deal

 

[Astute]

Both sides playing silly buggers now. Tories want an election out of term, others don’t. Lib Dem’s want to put something forward Labour can’t support so they can say they’re blocking Brexit, anti-Corbynites trying to block and election.

What a lack of political leadership on all sides.

Only one thing wrong with that post. It is all 3 sides.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Name a better one that isn’t revoke or Johnson’s managed no deal

Legally binding 2nd ref, I've been arguing for it for the best part of a year and we could've had one by now in the total time Brexit has been extended for.

 

[Grendel]

You're the unsurpassed master of deflection here. I've responded to your points previously and don't see why I need to do so again-the article linked to sums it up. You still can't bring yourself to criticise the current PM for publishing racist views in the Telegraph, which then published more articles in his defence. You can't comment on nearly half of Tory members not wanting a Muslim PM. You argue that police numbers going down by 10,000 under the Tories is fine because per head, there's more than in 1979.

Let's also not forget your grand prediction that Labour would be annihilated in 2017. Just admit you got it wrong

You’ve posted a fact check to defend Corbyn which pretty much gives up on defending his independence regarding the IRA

in the end the British public are far more considered than you fine them credit for and will deliver a verdict on Mr Corbyn in December

then we will see who is correct on this