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The coventrian

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I’ve emailed the FSA to see if there’s a process to complain about the member.

I think we need to engage them a bit better this year, I’m guilty of it but CJ is always rounded on here. We maybe need a new tactic.
I've met cj a few times at our games and internationals and he's a good lad. The best of a bad bunch by the looks of it. I've no idea about any of the other trust members.
 

Grendel

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Interesting. I never knew that. We know the trust and local media arent interested in kicking up fuss. I think it's a complete waste of time engaging with them. What exactly can we do? Set up a new fans group? Crowdfund adverts in the nationals about what's gone on? What?

Well if there was enough interest you could close down the CWR phone in in one hit to start with but as you say it needs some commitment
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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I've met cj a few times at our games and internationals and he's a good lad. The best of a bad bunch by the looks of it. I've no idea about any of the other trust members.
Yeah to be honest I’ve met him once, he genuinely loves the club

I always thought he was very engaging on here, problem is he really tows the party line.

Ultimately if the Trust have a plan, then their stance would be understandable but they have a we know best attitude with no substance
 

shepardo01

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Wheres the evidence of this?
I don't know any city fan who backs the council/wasps. It's all bollocks.
Are the members of "the trust" city fans!?
They say they are!
A lot are backing the trusts/ICC's agendas by listening to the telegraph/council/trust rhetoric and refusing to go to Bham because " the owners moved them out of the city, the owners won't drop legals so the club can't move back"..etc etc... all of which is spun by CCC, telegraph, cwr.
 

The coventrian

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Yeah to be honest I’ve met him once, he genuinely loves the club

I always thought he was very engaging on here, problem is he really tows the party line.

Ultimately if the Trust have a plan, then their stance would be understandable but they have a we know best attitude with no substance
If I was him I'd throw the towel in. I think the trust is a busted flush these days. He's a well known lad so imagine he's had a fair bit of stick. Guilty by association etc.
 

Grendel

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I've met cj a few times at our games and internationals and he's a good lad. The best of a bad bunch by the looks of it. I've no idea about any of the other trust members.

Dave Johnson is focussed on new owners and a Phoenix club. He is closely associated with the ex Cov Utd women’s secretary Tim Kalns a former trust board member who is responsible for many parody accounts which just are abusive and not productive. Tim doesn’t like me very much.

Neil White is a friend of Stuart Linnel and a former Trinity Mirror Group employee - the Group controlled formerly by Garry Hoffman.

The former trust secretary is Roger Ellis. Roger Ellis was slaughtered in a Parliamentary select committee for his role as head of Rochdale council in the sex abuse scandal. CJ seemed to take an awful long time when I revealed this to admit it was him. He said “roger was a head of a council but I can’t remember where”
 

The coventrian

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Are the members of "the trust" city fans!?
They say they are!
A lot are backing the trusts/ICC's agendas by listening to the telegraph/council/trust rhetoric and refusing to go to Bham because " the owners moved them out of the city, the owners won't drop legals so the club can't move back"..etc etc... all of which is spun by CCC, telegraph, cwr.
So by fans then you just mean those on the trust who've been 'bought off'' so to speak?
 

The coventrian

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Dave Johnson is focussed on new owners and a Phoenix club. He is closely associated with the ex Cov Utd women’s secretary Tim Kalns a former trust board member who is responsible for many parody accounts which just are abusive and not productive. Tim doesn’t like me very much.

Neil White is a friend of Stuart Linnel and a former Trinity Mirror Group employee - the Group controlled formerly by Garry Hoffman.

The former trust secretary is Roger Ellis. Roger Ellis was slaughtered in a Parliamentary select committee for his role as head of Rochdale council in the sex abuse scandal. CJ seemed to take an awful long time when I revealed this to admit it was him. He said “roger was a head of a council but I can’t remember where”
Fucking hell lol. I think I'd rather take rose west for lunch than get involved with that lot.
Cant we just sideline that shower and form some sort of trust on here? There must be a few thousand members on here.
 

shepardo01

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So by fans then you just mean those on the trust who've been 'bought off'' so to speak?
No... also fans whose, as I said earlier, only grasp of what has gone on comes from the CovTel, CWR and have had it drummed into them by the above mentioned that SISU are the only bad guys. Hence their views are having sympathy on Wasps/Conucil at the expense of their own football club. Typified by many of the posts on the situation on the Facebook forums for example.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Can anyone find that video where they were clapping wasps?? @Nick was it on bbc or sky sports so i know where to look, can't remember off the top of my head
 

The coventrian

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No... also fans whose, as I said earlier, only grasp of what has gone on comes from the CovTel, CWR and have had it drummed into them by the above mentioned that SISU are the only bad guys. Hence their views are having sympathy on Wasps/Conucil at the expense of their own football club. Typified by many of the posts on the situation on the Facebook forums for example.
I think the majority of fans will always blame sisu for this mess but I've seen no evidence of city fans who actually back the council/wasps more than the club. Slagging off the owners isn't supporting the council/wasps.
 

Liquid Gold

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Fucking hell lol. I think I'd rather take rose west for lunch than get involved with that lot.
Cant we just sideline that shower and form some sort of trust on here? There must be a few thousand members on here.
The fans have already sidelines the trust. Unfortunately they are still recognised as our representatives by the media, the council and supporters united.
 

WillenhallSkyBlues

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People can deny that the council are in bed with the London wasps all they want but there was tons of these stickers around town and every single one of them has been removed but other stickers have been left. Even stickers next to them. Either someone who supports the London wasps is going around looking for them and removing them all or someone from the council has been told to get them down
 

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Grendel

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Fucking hell lol. I think I'd rather take rose west for lunch than get involved with that lot.
Cant we just sideline that shower and form some sort of trust on here? There must be a few thousand members on here.

They are the official voice of the fans and therefore will always have the media and FL presence. That’s really the issue.
 

chiefdave

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Who was it? The trust? Our own fans?
It was organised by the Sky Blue Trust as a day of action against all parties. Was probably 20-30 people.

First 'protest' was at the council house where they met Duggins, council leader, who wished them well with their protest against SISU.

Then onto the Ricoh where someone from Wasps came out to speak to them and when he finished they gave him a round of applause.

Then off to London to an office it seems SISU aren't actually located at where they had Johnson is his sleeping bag being 'homeless' and shouted at a building nobody from SISU was in. During the time they were in London they fucked up and accidentally posted as the trust on one of the twitter accounts that dishes out abuse to our supporters who we have been repeatedly told the trust have nothing to do with.
 

shepardo01

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The trust and a few others, it was before they went to SISU HQ in London to 'protest'.... think some wasps representative came out of the ricoh and received some letters off them and was then clapped
Trust protest at initially ONLY "sisu hq" they weren't even going to go to the coucil house OR the Ricoh until there was a few comments made!
Was a very last minute change to their schedule which ended up with a nice 5 min chat with Duggins, applauding Nick Eastwood outside the Ricoh, then a banner waving, camp out/vocal protest in London at the supposed SISU hq
 

Grendel

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Surely there must be some kind of complaint procedure?

You are right in the sense that their is not much action to change things but it is hard work. The trust have alienated themselves so much that actually it would not be that hard to bring it down and install a new board if there was a desire even under its own constitution.

I set up a twitter account with a specific aim. To get Roger Ellis out of the trust and to force Tim Kalns to be ejected. I achieved it but since then I have been trawled over social media, had threats made to me and accounts made in my name which have been defamatory which I have had to close down through the appropriate channels. I have had threats to publish my address publicly and I doubt its to deliver a Christmas Card.

Its really hard work to actually try and make a difference and you have to question why
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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You are right in the sense that their is not much action to change things but it is hard work. The trust have alienated themselves so much that actually it would not be that hard to bring it down and install a new board if there was a desire even under its own constitution.

I set up a twitter account with a specific aim. To get Roger Ellis out of the trust and to force Tim Kalns to be ejected. I achieved it but since then I have been trawled over social media, had threats made to me and accounts made in my name which have been defamatory which I have had to close down through the appropriate channels. I have had threats to publish my address publicly and I doubt its to deliver a Christmas Card.

Its really hard work to actually try and make a difference and you have to question why
How did they track down your identity?
 

Grendel

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How did they track down your identity?

Linkedin - but then the excuses come thick and fast. CJ claimed he looked at the account when he was looking at people suited to be recruited in his line of work - oddly Dave Johnson and Simon Gilbert also looked at the same time
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Linkedin - but then the excuses come thick and fast. CJ claimed he looked at the account when he was looking at people suited to be recruited in his line of work - oddly Dave Johnson and Simon Gilbert also looked at the same time
Did you use your name on twitter? What was the initial link to your linked in
 

chiefdave

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Did you use your name on twitter? What was the initial link to your linked in
Its not that hard to work out who most people are on here if they post a fair amount. A lot of people post about where they live, work etc. Give things that would give you a rough idea of age.

I've had stuff aimed at me on Facebook relating to my posts on here, never thought anything of it at the time but having heard what's happened to others since there seems to be a pattern. Fortunately I just got a bit of abuse, nothing like the threats some people received.
 

Grendel

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Did you use your name on twitter? What was the initial link to your linked in

It was found via another source - I know where - the Trust all know who I am. Steve Brown years ago claimed he didn't know who I was but was so stupid he even put a friend request to me on the account
 

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