Ring Of Steel
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And that makes him a better Coventry City manager does it?
Go on, explain why his achievements with Port Vale mean that he was better with us than Robins is, I'd love to hear it
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And that makes him a better Coventry City manager does it?
Go on, explain why his achievements with Port Vale mean that he was better with us than Robins is, I'd love to hear it
Ring Of Steel
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Thats fantastic, fascinating, however unfortunately it doesn't make him a better Coventry City manager than Mark Robins.
SlowerThanPlatt
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My personal opinion is that finishing 8th in the Championship is a better achievement than 6th in League 2
Evo1883
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Ring Of Steel
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And then spending £600,000 on Leon McKenzie, £1m on Kevin Kyle, £1.25m on Elliot Ward, £450k on Chris Birchall & playing long ball football week after week, getting the fans to the point that they are chanting "you don't know what you're doing" at him & destroying the harmony in the offices- does that make any difference to your opinion that Micky Adams was a better manager for us than Mark Robins?
Ring Of Steel
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Let me guess- Neil Warnock would have done things differently therefore Mark Robins needs to be sacked.
Grendel
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You are basing achievement on promotions?
SlowerThanPlatt
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No not really
Robibs signed Kastaneer who makes Kevin Kyle look the ultimate professional
Skyblueweeman
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One might argue that we were stable (relatively) as a club in as much as we were playing at 'home', it was pre-SISU and Adams had a net spend of £1m that season, bringing in Elliott Ward from WHU. It was also our first season at the Ricoh...proper 'good vibe' feelings around the club.
SlowerThanPlatt
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I am referring to the 2005-06 season. Ward didn’t join us until the following season
All his signings were that season were frees apart from Matt Heath for a ‘nominal fee’ - £45,000 apparently
Ring Of Steel
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At £1,000,000 you'd expect a bit better, no?
It worked out at £200,000 per goal.
Ring Of Steel
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Micky Adams had one way of playing, and his strength was in a 'siege mentality', ie limited funds and having to scour around. But thats all he had- he had no tactical awareness to change a game, he made some of the worst buys we ever made, never had any clue of how to adapt a game to what the opposition were doing, and as soon as other clubs progressed and cottoned onto us he was all at sea.
And one more point- we were 11th on the morning of the final game (v Cardiff I think), and there was nothing to play for at all, we jumped 5 places as nobody above us put in a proper performance as they knew they couldn't make the playoffs. It is not the case, as you are implying, that we were in and around the playoffs all season- we were never less than 10-15 points away the whole season.
Skyblueweeman
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Sorry, that was the season I was referring to as well but overlooked that fact that Ward signed in June 06. I thought it was for the 05-06 season, not at the end of it.
Ring Of Steel
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Adams was incapable of spending any money wisely. He just couldn't do it, didn't have the cop on on how to build a team when he had the money to do so.
SlowerThanPlatt
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No I’ve just said we finished 8th - I haven’t implied anything
Ring Of Steel
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ok whatever, So cut the messing around- name the managers that in your opinion have been better at Coventry City than Mark Robins. We already know you rate Micky Adams higher (and Sam Allardyce apparently)- who else? Stop the sidestepping and just answer a simple question- if Mark Robins gets us promoted again who is still above him in terms of our best ever manager?
Bloody hell you forget those days, he should have been arrested for fraud
SlowerThanPlatt
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I’ve not mentioned Allardyce. You’ve mixed me up with another poster
NortonSkyBlue
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In my opinion Mark Robins is doing a fine job right now. He is on the cusp of achieving something wonderful which I didn't feel was possible when Russell Slade was sacked. This was a club on a death spiral and somehow Robins has stopped the rot and reversed the trajectory.
We play good football, don't lose so often and I for one, feel engaged with my club.
Let's see where the journey ends up but he is on his way to being the best manager we could have had under these circumstances.
We play good football, don't lose so often and I for one, feel engaged with my club.
Let's see where the journey ends up but he is on his way to being the best manager we could have had under these circumstances.
Ring Of Steel
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You are right- people do forget and show extreme ignorance of our history and the implications for our current manager who is outperforming all but a tiny few previous managers.
Ring Of Steel
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Thats great- name your choices.
Ring Of Steel
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Agreed. Another one to throw in- he has a shot at recording our lowest ever games lost total in one season, going back to 1967.
I will leave it there as I have this nagging feeling I've put the curse on everything :emoji_grimacing:
SlowerThanPlatt
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If you remember my only query was with you saying Robins hasn’t been backed
Nick
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Didn't he buy Kelly (maybe some sort of fee to Orient?), Biamou, Davies and Rod McDonald? Also a hefty fee for JCH?
clint van damme
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Is 8th in the Championship better that 6th in League 2? Of course it is.
Which season did I enjoy more? The latter by a country mile.
Which season did I enjoy more? The latter by a country mile.
Hullinho87
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Who’s making out he’s done it on a shoestring?
All round club stability is the debate here ..
SlowerThanPlatt
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The poster I quoted said Robins has had “no funds to buy”
Hullinho87
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Ok. I was interested in using the Shoe String phrase as that’s OTT
This is such a weird thread.
People bringing up stuff that Adams/Pressley/Slade did as much as 10 years ago to try and discredit Robins? WTF.
Who cares if Adams got a promotion in 2012.
Robins has got the only promotion in my lifetime (and is close to a second), he's miles ahead of anyone we've had in recent times.
People bringing up stuff that Adams/Pressley/Slade did as much as 10 years ago to try and discredit Robins? WTF.
Who cares if Adams got a promotion in 2012.
Robins has got the only promotion in my lifetime (and is close to a second), he's miles ahead of anyone we've had in recent times.
Hullinho87
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But if you are being entirely honest .. I think you are looking to create a bit of pro-active groundswell, using this thread’s notion - to suggest that if we go up that it wasn’t down to Robins being a good manager all along (despite your posts suggesting he isn’t) and it was “inevitable” we would go up because we are a relative big club.
Ring Of Steel
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He's entirely unwilling and unable to say who is better than Robins, and apparently has been calling for his head, so his opinion has no credibility because its based on embarrassment about being proved so disastrously wrong.
usskyblue
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At the risk of making sense...we’ve done nothing so far but put ourselves in a good position to challenge. Which, given the circumstances off the field, and the way we’ve played on it, is an achievement in itself.
However, no one can deny, that we can only judge this season based on where we FINISH it.
ussb out
However, no one can deny, that we can only judge this season based on where we FINISH it.
ussb out
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Evo1883
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Why are people trying to argue Robins isn't one of the best managers ever here under the circumstances ... Its bizzare
He's totally revitalised the footballing side of things from the bottom up, longer contracts, better players, much better football, a promotion, a cup win and hopefully a promotion this year... Its remarkable.
The away fans especially absolutely worship the ground he walks on... He's the best thing to happen to this club for years and years
He's totally revitalised the footballing side of things from the bottom up, longer contracts, better players, much better football, a promotion, a cup win and hopefully a promotion this year... Its remarkable.
The away fans especially absolutely worship the ground he walks on... He's the best thing to happen to this club for years and years
Leave it out mate, Russell Slade won League One manager of the year in 2007, Robins can't compete with that.