hill83
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It’s only a couple of divs. Wouldn’t worry about it.
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It’s only a couple of divs. Wouldn’t worry about it.
Ring Of Steel
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Some people would rather the club fail than be proved wrong.
Grendel
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Agree it’s only a couple of divisions
clint van damme
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Was your new profile pic taken immediately after you posted that bee gee message?
To be fair, I'd have looked that smug if I'd thought of it.
hill83
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That’s enough of your jive talkin’
Adge
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With more than a little help from a Mr Dennis Wise.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Well it is kind of the point of a signing - to improve the team
Adge
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It is indeed. Adams was lucky as Wise papered over the cracks and almost single handily propelled us to 8th in his half season with us.
SlowerThanPlatt
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I suppose you could say the same about McNulty. Up until the Cheltenham home game he had only scored 4 goals and we were outside the play offs
Grendel
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In Robins first spell where would we have been without McGoldrick
Ring Of Steel
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This is very true. I think it was Plymouth at home where changes were forced on him through injury, he brought Hutchison on and stumbled upon a winning formation, and we went on a decent run after that. Unless he had no choice Adams had one incredibly rigid and inflexible way of playing (based on toil, graft and strength), and he was completely unable to change or adapt. He even admits as much in his own book, which reads like it was penned by Mike Bassett with all the talk of grit, passion, determination, battling & the paucity of any focus on skill & tactics.
Ring Of Steel
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Completely false, there was no luck involved. I even remember the outcry on gmk etc after that Plymouth game where it was worryingly obvious that Adams had no idea how to change things and had literally stumbled on a winning formation.
Plus we made money on McNulty, part of an evolving plan & we’ve developed ever since- how can you class Denis Wise and Don Hutchison as part of a progressive plan? You can’t. Adams had no plan, apart from out muscling and outrunning the opposition.
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SlowerThanPlatt
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It is interesting such a tactical inept manager like Adams has achieved more in his managerial career than Robins
Ring Of Steel
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Pretty much where we were anyway seeing as McGoldrick left 3 months after Robins joined.
To be honest all these inaccuracies and falsehoods are taking away from whatever argument you’re making, which seem to be that Adams, Presley and Sam Allardyce are better CCFC managers than Mark Robins.
Ring Of Steel
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In a different era when kick and rush got you promotion, it’s almost a different sport now. As his subsequent career has proven he is a dinosaur who had his time when you could bully your way to winning games.
Grendel
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You must be a WUM account
Ring Of Steel
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I don’t know what WUM is, explain yourself and I will confirm either way.
SlowerThanPlatt
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In 2012/13 his Port Vale team finished third in L2 which is better than what Robins achieved at Cov? He then got them to 9th in L1 the following season?
Isn’t that better than Robins last 2 full seasons here? At a much smaller club too
shmmeee
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Ring Of Steel
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2012/2013, great. Read Adams’ book- he had money and a good chairman, he said he was backed all the way and had stability. And Robins got us to 8th in L1 after getting promoted, which is better than 9th, at least to most sane people.
Ring Of Steel
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Ah ok- no I’m not, at least not on purpose. But all these weird theories and errors being used to pretend that Micky Adams, Stephen Presley and even people who were never at our club were better for us than Mark Robins- not gonna let that go without correcting a few people with very short memories.
Weirdest thread ever.
Robins could get us promoted from the championship next year and we'd still have people saying 'yeah but McNulty' 'yeah but look how much he spent' 'yeah but remember that bad signing he made a few years ago?' 'yeah but remember when Russell Slade was a good manager in 2006?'
Robins could get us promoted from the championship next year and we'd still have people saying 'yeah but McNulty' 'yeah but look how much he spent' 'yeah but remember that bad signing he made a few years ago?' 'yeah but remember when Russell Slade was a good manager in 2006?'
SlowerThanPlatt
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So Adams the dinosaur who plays outdated football gets similar results as Robins?
Ring Of Steel
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you are not wrong. The agenda here is unclear apart from I assume it’s a couple of bitter blokes who are feeling a bit silly that their “taxi for Robins” trolling has been shown to be extravagantly misguided and aren’t willing to agree that he’s doing a superb job in very trying circumstances- without uttering one word of complaint or offering a single excuse.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Actually as I’ve pointed out before you said Robins has “no funds to buy players” - you then spent the next hour trying to convince everyone he’s spent no money
Ring Of Steel
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except he doesn’t, does he. Adams was found out half a decade ago. Since this Mourinho-esque performance at Port Vale he dismally failed at Tranmere, rocked up at Sligo Rovers then fell into obscurity. Put him in charge of a League One club now and he’d last about two months before being shown the door.
The game has evolved, and if there’s one thing Micky Adams showed he could not do, it’s evolve with it.
Mucca Mad Boys
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What would Real Madrid be like without Ronaldo, or Messi at Barcelona...
Also, how many goals did McGoldrick score before Robins came in?
Ring Of Steel
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Do you think Liverpool fans are on a forum somewhere reminiscing about how good a manager Roy Hodgson or Gérard Houlier were 15 years ago?
Or do you think they are content with their best and most successful manager in years?
I know as Coventry fans we aren't used to (relative) success and so it's new and unusual for us, but why must some try and pick fault in everything, even during the good times?
Or do you think they are content with their best and most successful manager in years?
I know as Coventry fans we aren't used to (relative) success and so it's new and unusual for us, but why must some try and pick fault in everything, even during the good times?
Ring Of Steel
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Robins does not have any transfer funds, he has to generate funds himself by smart management, something no other manager has managed to do with us for a long time.
Can you name our signings so far in the January window?
You just don’t like the guy and for some weird and wonderful reason known only to yourself you refuse to give the proper credit.
Ring Of Steel
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Mucca Mad Boys
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Agreed.
Outside of the elite managers, how many managers are successful at multiple clubs? Not many. Even less of those will be hanging around in League 1.
A lot of these managers come in somewhere, at the right time, and the right circumstances and all goes to plan.
Would Robins have done as well as he is now had he stayed around the time went into admin and had to cut costs during the Pressley era? Probably not. As circumstances had it, he took the club at rock bottom, was able to completely start again with control over the whole process and he’s been successful. Credit to Mark Robins.
Ring Of Steel
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He won’t have a clue.
SlowerThanPlatt
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So like mostly every manager in England then?