Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (220 Viewers)

[Otis]

Obviously he hasn't ffs, i hope thats not you being serious

Totally.

 

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[Marty]

So what exactly would qualify Sadiq Khan to ignore expert advice on the subject of a pandemic? As far as I’m aware he was a lawyer not a scientist specialising in the field of pandemics.

What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.

 

[David O'Day]

What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.

So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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[Ring Of Steel]

To be fair....the figures appear to be poorly compiled & only provide a very very rough snapshot...and even that snapshot is polluted with a varying degree of lag....
...and of course it doesn't take into account all the deaths in care homes & the massive increase in "unexplained deaths" at home that are currently being dealt with in the main by the police & coroners office...
My wifes cousin is a copper and his shifts are currently filled with domestic violence cases & helping shift body bags.....it would seem an awful lot more people are dying of this than the official figures suggest

I know, the point I am making is that Dom's mental health seems to be entirely driven by the individual set of daily figures that appear each day

 

[clint van damme]

He would have, completely, I agree, Which is why you need a strong politician with broad shoulders to take the shit he would have got, at least he could have turned round and said, these maybe extreme measure but I'm doing them for your benefit.

Even just little measures like contentiously cleaning hand rails, providing staff with hand sanitizer or gloves, cleaning staff areas between shifts would have reduced numbers.

Our politicians failed to act, every last one of them, simple as act. I've been critical and vocal about it.

I agree about PPE.
He should be doing more to help TFL staff rather than just hiding behind the government say it's for NHS workers which he appears to be doing.

It's a big leap from that to what you're suggesting.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I know, the point I am making is that Dom's mental health seems to be entirely driven by the individual set of daily figures that appear each day

I hope you ain't trying to take the piss

 

[Deleted member 5849]

How does getting it wrong on this occasion equate to often getting it wrong?

They get it right more often than pissed man down the pub (or, at the moment, in their own spare room!)

 

[Marty]

So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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This is why you need a strong person with broad shoulders to make those tough calls.

 

[Otis]

So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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It would have been total madness to do so. Everyone would have come down on him like a tonne of bricks. All sides, every angle.

 

[David O'Day]

It was a genuine criticism, it's poor decision making from those in power. Why are you so defensive over a Muslim politician? are they beyond judgement?

Mate you are just making a fool of yourself now.

Man takes advice of national government shocker.

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[David O'Day]

This is why you need a strong person with broad shoulders to make those tough calls.

get help

 

[David O'Day]

What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.

having a brain is still up for debate

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

It's not hard to see why some people might think you have certain biases when you start criticising people for following the advice and guidelines being passed down from those with expertise in the field and from the central government.

 

[Marty]

It would have been total madness to do so. Everyone would have come down on him like a tun of bricks. All sides, every angle.

Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.

 

[David O'Day]

Obviously he hasn't ffs, i hope thats not you being serious

i hope he didn't lick the stamp

 

[David O'Day]

It's not hard to see why some people might think you have certain biases when you start criticising people for following the advice and guidelines being passed down from those with expertise in the field and from the central government.

it's absolute madness.

Sure have a go for TFL not doing enough for their workers (interestingly the union isn't asking for more PPE but fo rthe front doors of the bus to be locked and the seats aroun dthe driver t be blocked off) but to keep attacking him for following the medical advise of the time is odd. Really odd

 

[David O'Day]

Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.

not keeping up to date with singapore or hong kong?

 

[shmmeee]

Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.

Let’s see what happens when they remove lockdown though. We still don’t know if they’ll get a big second wave.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Spain total cases and deaths down! Brilliant news!

 

[clint van damme]

Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.

But that's for the government to decide not a major.
I think it's becoming evident we should have locked down earlier.
To be honest, it's not a stick I'd personally use to beat the government too much with, it's a unique situation and the likes of Hong Kong and Singapore learned lessons from the SARs outbreak.

 

[Marty]

not keeping up to date with singapore or hong kong?

Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I agree about PPE.
He should be doing more to help TFL staff rather than just hiding behind the government say it's for NHS workers which he appears to be doing.

It's a big leap from that to what you're suggesting.

TBF they are not TFL staff, they're employed by the range of franchised private bus operators in London. Without wanting to sound harsh. It really is down to their employers, if they want to take on public contracts they ought to take on the broad obligations associated with a public service, not just leech cash away like they do.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.

Indeed and we certainly do not have that.

 

[David O'Day]

Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.

singapore who are now worried about a second surge of cases and hong kong which has had multiple waves of cases

Also the populations of those city sates is tiny compared to the uk

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Indeed and we certainly do not have that.

I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved

 

[Marty]

singapore who are now worried about a second surge of cases and hong kong which has had multiple waves of cases

Also the populations of those city sates is tiny compared to the uk

Ah yes, the tiny state that is Russia.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Keep going , it was only the other post you were trying to take the piss out my mental health

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved

How do you think Priti Patel has got on during this, Dom? She's arguably about third in command of the whole country

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved

If you're so against point-scoring then why aren't you kicking off about Marty trying to point score on Labour by criticising Khan? Weird how you're in here every day talking about how bad our numbers are yet defend the government at every turn, who, in case you missed it, are the ones who are in charge of dealing with all this shite.

Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.

Why are you solely focused on criticising the Mayor of London as opposed to the government who are actually in charge of national strategy for dealing with the virus then?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Keep going , it was only the other post you were trying to take the piss out my mental health

Yep, and I stand by it. For clarity, it is not an insult.

You need to look at the trends, one day means nothing and you seem to either go wild with happiness or completely fall to pieces depending on what one day says. Its not that simple and if you react wildly to every spike between now and the end of it then you'll end up having a nervous breakdown- thats what I am saying and if you want to find an insult in that then you go ahead, it is not meant that way. I have vape juice now, highly unlikely I'll be kicking off at people for a while

 

[clint van damme]

How do you think Priti Patel has got on during this, Dom? She's arguably about third in command of the whole country

It's weird how she's disappeared. Her comments about unskilled workers could be part of the reason

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It's weird how she's disappeared. Her comments about unskilled workers could be part of the reason

I don't know obviously, but its got to be deliberate for whatever reason.

 

[Ian1779]

Jacinda Ardern declares victory over coronavirus and could lift strict lockdown measures | Daily Mail Online

Brilliant news this! How come they have done so well?

They took it seriously from Day 1

 

[Ian1779]

I just had a thought.

I have just received my Boris letter urging us all to stay at home and follow the guidance.

Boris has sent this to every household.

Boris has the virus.

Has Boris just infected the whole nation with Coronavirus?

When we got the letter the wife read it and the first thing she said was ‘has he not got Grammarly?’