Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (7 Viewers)

Marty

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So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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This is why you need a strong person with broad shoulders to make those tough calls.
 

Otis

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So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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It would have been total madness to do so. Everyone would have come down on him like a tonne of bricks. All sides, every angle.
 

David O'Day

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It was a genuine criticism, it's poor decision making from those in power. Why are you so defensive over a Muslim politician? are they beyond judgement?
Mate you are just making a fool of yourself now.

Man takes advice of national government shocker.

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David O'Day

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What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.
having a brain is still up for debate
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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It's not hard to see why some people might think you have certain biases when you start criticising people for following the advice and guidelines being passed down from those with expertise in the field and from the central government.
 

Marty

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It would have been total madness to do so. Everyone would have come down on him like a tun of bricks. All sides, every angle.

Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.
 

David O'Day

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It's not hard to see why some people might think you have certain biases when you start criticising people for following the advice and guidelines being passed down from those with expertise in the field and from the central government.
it's absolute madness.

Sure have a go for TFL not doing enough for their workers (interestingly the union isn't asking for more PPE but fo rthe front doors of the bus to be locked and the seats aroun dthe driver t be blocked off) but to keep attacking him for following the medical advise of the time is odd. Really odd
 

David O'Day

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Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.
not keeping up to date with singapore or hong kong?
 

shmmeee

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Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.

Let’s see what happens when they remove lockdown though. We still don’t know if they’ll get a big second wave.
 

clint van damme

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Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.

But that's for the government to decide not a major.
I think it's becoming evident we should have locked down earlier.
To be honest, it's not a stick I'd personally use to beat the government too much with, it's a unique situation and the likes of Hong Kong and Singapore learned lessons from the SARs outbreak.
 

Marty

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not keeping up to date with singapore or hong kong?

Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
 

fernandopartridge

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I agree about PPE.
He should be doing more to help TFL staff rather than just hiding behind the government say it's for NHS workers which he appears to be doing.

It's a big leap from that to what you're suggesting.

TBF they are not TFL staff, they're employed by the range of franchised private bus operators in London. Without wanting to sound harsh. It really is down to their employers, if they want to take on public contracts they ought to take on the broad obligations associated with a public service, not just leech cash away like they do.
 

David O'Day

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Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
singapore who are now worried about a second surge of cases and hong kong which has had multiple waves of cases

Also the populations of those city sates is tiny compared to the uk
 

Marty

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singapore who are now worried about a second surge of cases and hong kong which has had multiple waves of cases

Also the populations of those city sates is tiny compared to the uk

Ah yes, the tiny state that is Russia.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved
If you're so against point-scoring then why aren't you kicking off about Marty trying to point score on Labour by criticising Khan? Weird how you're in here every day talking about how bad our numbers are yet defend the government at every turn, who, in case you missed it, are the ones who are in charge of dealing with all this shite.

Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
Why are you solely focused on criticising the Mayor of London as opposed to the government who are actually in charge of national strategy for dealing with the virus then?
 

Ring Of Steel

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Keep going , it was only the other post you were trying to take the piss out my mental health

Yep, and I stand by it. For clarity, it is not an insult.

You need to look at the trends, one day means nothing and you seem to either go wild with happiness or completely fall to pieces depending on what one day says. Its not that simple and if you react wildly to every spike between now and the end of it then you'll end up having a nervous breakdown- thats what I am saying and if you want to find an insult in that then you go ahead, it is not meant that way. I have vape juice now, highly unlikely I'll be kicking off at people for a while :)
 

Ian1779

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I just had a thought.

I have just received my Boris letter urging us all to stay at home and follow the guidance.

Boris has sent this to every household.

Boris has the virus.

Has Boris just infected the whole nation with Coronavirus?
When we got the letter the wife read it and the first thing she said was ‘has he not got Grammarly?’
 

Ian1779

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Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
So that’s what we’re lacking here...
 

Marty

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If you're so against point-scoring then why aren't you kicking off about Marty trying to point score on Labour by criticising Khan? Weird how you're in here every day talking about how bad our numbers are yet defend the government at every turn, who, in case you missed it, are the ones who are in charge of dealing with all this shite.


Why are you solely focused on criticising the Mayor of London as opposed to the government who are actually in charge of national strategy for dealing with the virus then?

It was in response to a post about why are so many TFL workers dying from this virus, I gave the reasons why and linked to an article, all hell broke loose and suddenly I was being called all sorts.

I have been critical of the government many times during this, poor decision making from the start of this crisis. I affiliate with no party, I'm liberal thinking in some ways, gay marriage etc, and quite conserative on other issues, for example immigration. I didn't vote this election due to the poor choices of leadership, but I've warmed to Boris as he seems to truly want to make great things happen. As soon as Corbyn came out and gave his pronouns, he became unelectable for me. We need a strong leader and an even stronger leader of the opposition to get the best out of the leader. Both Johnson and Corbyn failed in this regard for me.

If you don't agree with my criticism of Kahn that's fine, but too make out hes the only target would be disingenuous.
 

fernandopartridge

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I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved

Let's wait until today's figures come out so you can have another mood swing Dim.

I'm not point scoring I am stating facts. We're no doubt well over 10k dead in reality, it isn't point scoring to say this is abysmal for a couple of islands in the Atlantic. Especially when compared with other countries which have so far fared much better and have multiple land borders with other countries.

You need to take the Boris specs off and live with the decisions you make.
 

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