Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (62 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world

You may be right, however I would argue that a lot of people are so used to him saying ridiculous and tasteless things that they are desensitised to it all, rather than them approving of it.

 

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[Grendel]

They were warned. The warnings started under Blair.
No one has decided to do anything about it. But as I said the other day, if it happens on your (10 year) watch, you have to own it.

So the Tories run the whole world. Ok

 

[Ring Of Steel]

How would you actually have a herd immunity policy in New Zealand. Countries like New Zealand cannot be compared to huge western countries with free cross border access

How could you have herd immunity policy in any country where there is no vaccine?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Hancock was shite again.

The chief nursing officer was embarrassing

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If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.

 

[clint van damme]

The 'you're happy that people are dying?' argument is emotive and ridiculous from any perspective. It really should stop.

It's fucking crass.
You didn't clap Boris, you want him to die.
You clapped Boris, you don't care about the other 1000 people.

It's fucking pathetic.

 

[Astute]

No following and followers is what happens on there - it’s a term

You seem to do a lot and know a lot about something you say you know nothing about. But there again that was when you were trying to make out you don't do Twatter.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Is it tom or grenners making a fool of themselves?

I dunno but it’s too early for all this, I’m only on my second can

 

[Sick Boy]

They’ve gone with the headline “get well soon babe” this morning so don’t hold your breath.
Vaccine key to UK exit strategy and 'the lives cut short'

Actually thought you were joking, it really is a rag.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It's fucking crass.
You didn't clap Boris, you want him to die.
You clapped Boris, you don't care about the other 1000 people.

It's fucking pathetic.

Exactly as I said before- politics is now religion, the country is fucked up.

 

[David O'Day]

If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.

The chief nurse at the rcn seems to be a better spokesperson

 

[PVA]

Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world

Where is your proof it didn't happen? Johnson did not deny it so I'd say there's a good chance it happened.

I don't expect you to change your mind, I know you have your head so firmly up Johnson's arse you can taste what he had for breakfast.

I saw on twitter that when someone mentioned Johnson voted against a pay rise for NHS staff you simply replied 'fuck off'

So blinded by your subservience to a disgraced journalist just because he has a plummy accent that you dismiss any criticism of him as either untrue or fake, or if it's a bit mean then it's considered crass. All the while you're happy for the NHS to be underfunded, nurses and doctors to go without PPE, and for people to die because of the government's appalling response, all because of your fondness for your precious overlord.

/rant

 

[fernandopartridge]

Agreed. He’s an embarrassment and utterly unqualified for a role of this importance. The classic, arrogant career politician stuck in campaign mode where he believes it’s ok the make promises and spout platitudes in the belief that he’ll muddle through and never be held to account. If, correction when the 100k tests target is not reached in a couple of weeks Boris must kick him out.

The whole party is on easy election mode, they've been at it for years.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The chief nurse at the rcn seems to be a better spokesperson

Appointed independently you see

 

[clint van damme]

So the Tories run the whole world. Ok

No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.

 

[David O'Day]

The whole party is on easy election mode, they've been at it for years.

It's what you get when politics is just about glib 3 part sentences

 

[shmmeee]

If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.

She and the other advisors are just human shields. The cowards in government bat every tough question to them. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest.

Also, relevant to this thread:

 

[skybluetony176]

not sure what ours was

18 days later.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.

I still don’t understand why it’s not possible to hold the following views:

1. I am glad that Boris Johnson is recovering
2. Boris Johnson and the U.K. government have done an abysmal job and their failings are continuing to cost lives on a daily basis

 

[PVA]

I still don’t understand why it’s not possible to hold the following views:

1. I am glad that Boris Johnson is recovering
2. Boris Johnson and the U.K. government have done an abysmal job and their failings are continuing to cost lives on a daily basis

It's entirely possible! It should be the view that everyone holds as both points are totally true.

 

[shmmeee]

No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.

Its not really until this crisis that I truly realised how British exceptionalism is weaponised to prevent criticism of our government. Works a treat. Noticed it a bit before when normal social democratic policies from other countries are discussed, but really stark with this crisis.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

She and the other advisors are just human shields. The cowards in government bat every tough question to them. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest.

Also, relevant to this thread:

Depends what you make political though. There are some very relevant things that are of course, and some things used as an excuse to make it political.

 

[shmmeee]

Also the idea that anyone who doesn’t rate Johnson wants him dead is stupid. The last thing I want politically is him becoming a martyr. Even if I lacked basic human empathy I wouldn’t want him dead.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

So how is lockdown and social distancing being observed over there on this holiday weekend, people being respectful and not heading off to the beach & stuff like that? Unfortunately not so good over here.

 

[skybluetony176]

So the Tories run the whole world. Ok

So the whole world prepares the U.K. for a pandemic. Ok

 

[David O'Day]

On a side note, they were advertising for support workers for the nhs nightingale hospital in London at 9.21 an hour.

They still see people as not being worth a decent wage

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Here’s the Mirror’s take on it all

 

[fernandopartridge]

She and the other advisors are just human shields. The cowards in government bat every tough question to them. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest.

Also, relevant to this thread:

Where's the duty of candour?

 

[Grendel]

You may be right, however I would argue that a lot of people are so used to him saying ridiculous and tasteless things that they are desensitised to it all, rather than them approving of it.

It’s typical gallows humour massively over stated as being important

 

[Astute]

So how is lockdown and social distancing being observed over there on this holiday weekend, people being respectful and not heading off to the beach & stuff like that? Unfortunately not so good over here.

I've been out since early this morning. Not going back home for hours.

Working the whole bank holiday weekend. My birthday on Monday. A night shift either side of it. So get to go out twice on my birthday. Can't wait.

 

[Marty]

And their propaganda is already working, I've seen quite a few mentions recently on social media of people blaming NHS management for not having enough PPE in place.

It's a procurement issue is it not? I suggested last night we should bypass the yanks and produce it ourselves. If they won't release the products we need, they have left us no choice really.

 

[fernandopartridge]

So how is lockdown and social distancing being observed over there on this holiday weekend, people being respectful and not heading off to the beach & stuff like that? Unfortunately not so good over here.

I'm not sure, I went out for a walk yesterday (along country lanes which are literally on my doorstep) it was quiet, more so than on the working days

 

[skybluetony176]

Actually thought you were joking, it really is a rag.

Takes a while to sink in doesn’t it.

 

[PVA]

It’s typical gallows humour massively over stated as being important

Oh the hypocrisy. So when I say Boris should take it on the chin that's not gallows humour? It's disgusting and crass and abhorrent and I'm a c**t?

Don't know why I'm even bothering to argue with you, what's the fucking point

 

[skybluetony176]

If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.

Should be a position that you’re voted into by your fellow nurses, surely. Any government, that’s any government could just appoint any nodding donkey if not.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Should be a position that you’re voted into by your fellow nurses, surely. Any government, that’s any government could just appoint any nodding donkey if not.

this probably comes down to the new approach Cummings and the right want to take- “no experts” etc

turns out though that when facing a lethal virus that can kill a thousand people per day and shut down the entire planet, some actual expertise might not have been a bad idea