Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (7 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

it’s fairly obvious that the plan is to deflect away from any questioning around the handling of the crisis. Their reporters must have taken a gander at this board and been inspired.

with any luck the Sun will go under, however that then puts The Daily Mail out on its own as the biggest paper in the country

To be fair to the Mail their headlines do seem to be on point and related to the Coronavirus whereas the sun seems to have moved Dear Deidre to the front page. Even the Express have gone with a front page of Desperate nurses Easter plea. The Sun showing how substandard they are.

 

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[Otis]

They are dying in every country. The WHO believes the world is only at 60% required levels. As someone on here said all businesses operate on JIT supply metric these days and that probably has to be looked at

It has to be. The whole world knew about this January. It is scandal.

 

[Grendel]

Take a look at the front pages of The Guardian and The Sun in the link above.

One talks about the tragic loss of life and one talks about Carrie sending letters to Boris.

I can't believe you're actually defending The Sun, on anything. Actually yes I can believe it.

Im not defending the sun again you are fabricating - you’d actually make a good journalist for the sun

“SBT poster wants thousands of pensioners to die” and no evidence

 

[PVA]

Im not defending the sun again you are fabricating - you’d actually make a good journalist for the sun

“SBT poster wants thousands of pensioners to die” and no evidence

Oh wow the irony of this.

You have accused me of wanting people to die, you've accused me of wanting Johnson to die, you have called me every name under the sun because you fabricated something in your mind about me wanting Johnson dead, you did some weird little twitter game to try and fabricate a point.

I really do suggest you take some time off the Internet for a bit.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It has to be. The whole world knew about this January. It is scandal.

When you have the PM (and his dad bizarrely) poo-pooing COVID19 as a matter of importance on national TV while other countries were already counting corpses and starting to lock down, I would venture that supply chain readiness is not the root cause of the problem.

 

[David O'Day]

It has to be. The whole world knew about this January. It is scandal.

To be fair we knew a pandemic could come at any time so why did we not have a proper stockpile of ppe

 

[skybluetony176]

They are dying in every country. The WHO believes the world is only at 60% required levels. As someone on here said all businesses operate on JIT supply metric these days and that probably has to be looked at

We don’t live in every country, our government doesn’t represent the population of every country.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Oh wow the irony of this.

You have accused me of wanting people to die, you've accused me of wanting Johnson to die, you have called me every name under the sun because you fabricated something in your mind about me wanting Johnson dead, you did some weird little twitter game to try and fabricate a point.

I really do suggest you take some time off the Internet for a bit.

I think this forum is a goldmine for Sun journalists, all they have to do is follow Coventrian and there’s a week’s worth of taglines right there.

 

[Otis]

To be fair we knew a pandemic could come at any time so why did we not have a proper stockpile of ppe

You would have thunk wouldn't you.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The 'you're happy that people are dying?' argument is emotive and ridiculous from any perspective. It really should stop.

 

[skybluetony176]

Take a look at the front pages of The Guardian and The Sun in the link above.

One talks about the tragic loss of life and one talks about Carrie sending letters to Boris.

I can't believe you're actually defending The Sun, on anything. Actually yes I can believe it.

I can. He’s a grade A moron.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

To be fair we knew a pandemic could come at any time so why did we not have a proper stockpile of ppe

It’s not “could” come, we knew it “was” coming. But know what you mean.

 

[Grendel]

Oh wow the irony of this.

You have accused me of wanting people to die, you've accused me of wanting Johnson to die, you have called me every name under the sun because you fabricated something in your mind about me wanting Johnson dead, you did some weird little twitter game to try and fabricate a point.

I really do suggest you take some time off the Internet for a bit.

You have comprehension difficulties unfortunately and again we are back to square one. Several others commented on your unhealthy zeal regarding the prime ministers illness and expressed disgust at your crass comments

One asked for evidence to support your accusation regarding me - something you could not supply.

You keep banging on about taking time off the internet yet many agreed with me - should we all take time off as we can all see through it?

 

[PVA]

When you have the PM (and his dad bizarrely) poo-pooing COVID19 as a matter of importance on national TV while other countries were already counting corpses and starting to lock down, I would venture that supply chain readiness is not the root cause of the problem.

I read something earlier about Greece's response.

They closed non essential shops and services 4 days after the first death (Italy was 18 days and Spain was 30 days, not sure what ours was) and they have done a very good job of keeping it under control with only 8 deaths per million people, compared with about 300 for Italy and Spain.

Obviously there are demographical and geographical reasons that will have made it easier for them, but they've showed the way to do it.

 

[PVA]

You have comprehension difficulties unfortunately and again we are back to square one. Several others commented on your unhealthy zeal regarding the prime ministers illness and expressed disgust at your crass comments

One asked for evidence to support your accusation regarding me - something you could not supply.

You keep banging on about taking time off the internet yet many agreed with me - should we all take time off as we can all see through it?

You cannot call anyone crass when you have said you found Operation Last Gasp so funny.

People dying because there aren't enough ventilators is hilarious isn't it? But I'm crass and disgusting for suggesting one man should follow his own advice? Classic.

 

[David O'Day]

Is it tom or grenners making a fool of themselves?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I read something earlier about Greece's response.

They closed non essential shops and services 4 days after the first death (Italy was 18 days and Spain was 30 days, not sure what ours was) and they have done a very good job of keeping it under control with only 8 deaths per million people, compared with about 300 for Italy and Spain.

Obviously there are demographical and geographical reasons that will have made it easier for them, but they've showed the way to do it.

New Zealand- pretty much ridiculed herd immunity as a dangerous crackpot idea, did the right thing on day one and they have 1 death. Or at least they did last time I saw.

It’s leadership and critical decision making that saves lives, added to the particular circumstances around the county itself- island, small population etc

 

[Grendel]

You cannot call anyone crass when you have said you found Operation Last Gasp so funny.

People dying because there aren't enough ventilators is hilarious isn't it? But I'm crass and disgusting for suggesting one man should follow his own advice? Classic.

Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world

 

[Grendel]

New Zealand- pretty much ridiculed herd immunity as a dangerous crackpot idea, did the right thing on day one and they have 1 death. Or at least they did last time I saw.

How would you actually have a herd immunity policy in New Zealand. Countries like New Zealand cannot be compared to huge western countries with free cross border access

 

[clint van damme]

They are dying in every country. The WHO believes the world is only at 60% required levels. As someone on here said all businesses operate on JIT supply metric these days and that probably has to be looked at

They were warned. The warnings started under Blair.
No one has decided to do anything about it. But as I said the other day, if it happens on your (10 year) watch, you have to own it.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world

You may be right, however I would argue that a lot of people are so used to him saying ridiculous and tasteless things that they are desensitised to it all, rather than them approving of it.

 

[Grendel]

They were warned. The warnings started under Blair.
No one has decided to do anything about it. But as I said the other day, if it happens on your (10 year) watch, you have to own it.

So the Tories run the whole world. Ok

 

[Ring Of Steel]

How would you actually have a herd immunity policy in New Zealand. Countries like New Zealand cannot be compared to huge western countries with free cross border access

How could you have herd immunity policy in any country where there is no vaccine?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Hancock was shite again.

The chief nursing officer was embarrassing

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If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.

 

[clint van damme]

The 'you're happy that people are dying?' argument is emotive and ridiculous from any perspective. It really should stop.

It's fucking crass.
You didn't clap Boris, you want him to die.
You clapped Boris, you don't care about the other 1000 people.

It's fucking pathetic.

 

[Astute]

No following and followers is what happens on there - it’s a term

You seem to do a lot and know a lot about something you say you know nothing about. But there again that was when you were trying to make out you don't do Twatter.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Is it tom or grenners making a fool of themselves?

I dunno but it’s too early for all this, I’m only on my second can

 

[Sick Boy]

They’ve gone with the headline “get well soon babe” this morning so don’t hold your breath.
Vaccine key to UK exit strategy and 'the lives cut short'

Actually thought you were joking, it really is a rag.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It's fucking crass.
You didn't clap Boris, you want him to die.
You clapped Boris, you don't care about the other 1000 people.

It's fucking pathetic.

Exactly as I said before- politics is now religion, the country is fucked up.

 

[David O'Day]

If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.

The chief nurse at the rcn seems to be a better spokesperson

 

[PVA]

Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world

Where is your proof it didn't happen? Johnson did not deny it so I'd say there's a good chance it happened.

I don't expect you to change your mind, I know you have your head so firmly up Johnson's arse you can taste what he had for breakfast.

I saw on twitter that when someone mentioned Johnson voted against a pay rise for NHS staff you simply replied 'fuck off'

So blinded by your subservience to a disgraced journalist just because he has a plummy accent that you dismiss any criticism of him as either untrue or fake, or if it's a bit mean then it's considered crass. All the while you're happy for the NHS to be underfunded, nurses and doctors to go without PPE, and for people to die because of the government's appalling response, all because of your fondness for your precious overlord.

/rant

 

[fernandopartridge]

Agreed. He’s an embarrassment and utterly unqualified for a role of this importance. The classic, arrogant career politician stuck in campaign mode where he believes it’s ok the make promises and spout platitudes in the belief that he’ll muddle through and never be held to account. If, correction when the 100k tests target is not reached in a couple of weeks Boris must kick him out.

The whole party is on easy election mode, they've been at it for years.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The chief nurse at the rcn seems to be a better spokesperson

Appointed independently you see

 

[clint van damme]

So the Tories run the whole world. Ok

No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.

 

[David O'Day]

The whole party is on easy election mode, they've been at it for years.

It's what you get when politics is just about glib 3 part sentences