Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

Corbyn really drove this guy over the edge to full nutcase territory.

He's an absolute c**t isn't he

 

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[shmmeee]

Can anyone explain what happened with SARS? I remember it, but it barely touched these shores did it.

That was a Coronavirus, so what happened there and how long was it before they managed to get a vaccine?

There were a lot fewer deaths too.

What was different?

Better managed I think. AFAIK there’s still no SARS-Cov-1 vaccine.

 

[David O'Day]

I bet Dan Hodges mum even thinks he's a c**t

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[clint van damme]

Ross Kemp seems to be of the belief that filming people dying for our amusement is just what’s required at this stage

How about you fuck of sharpish and donate your PPE to one of the staff you fuckin' roaster.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I need more beer. So to sum up, seems like the situation is currently:

1. Boris and the government fucked up so badly that 10,000 people and rising died, with the U.K. on course to be worst hit in Europe. Boris almost died himself due to his own carelessness and stupidity.

2. Boris is now a hero for surviving, whereas the 10,000 dead are barely mentioned in the media.

4. China are the great evil who lie about death figures and don’t care about their own people... we deliberately withhold how many healthcare workers have died, that’s ok.

5. it’s nurses’ own fault for overusing PPE

Boozy Easter coming up

maybe get the book sooner rather than later mate

have a good Easter weekend though and everyone else (reckon the amount of booze being consumed at home by the nation this weekend will be going through the roof !!!)

 

[David O'Day]

Better managed I think. AFAIK there’s still no SARS-Cov-1 vaccine.

It was more deadly but far less contagious

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Its not really until this crisis that I truly realised how British exceptionalism is weaponised to prevent criticism of our government. Works a treat. Noticed it a bit before when normal social democratic policies from other countries are discussed, but really stark with this crisis.

Not just here though. Many countries have that same nationalism. The US is the prime example, although places like China and Russia are good examples too.. Being a patriot seems to be someone who just blindly accepts that whatever their country does it the way it should be done.

If it's not a British idea or made in Britain it'll be rubbish compared to what we can come up with ourselves. If you don't believe that you're a traitor and hate Britain. The British Empire ended but the attitude towards the rest of the world still prevails for some.

"There's two ways of doing something - the British way and the wrong way"

 

[clint van damme]

maybe get the book sooner rather than later mate

have a good Easter weekend though and everyone else (reckon the amount of booze being consumed by the nations at home this weekend will be going through the roof !!!)

I've a feeling there's going to be a worldwide epidemic of people ignoring guidelines this weekend.

A combination of good weather and religious festivals is going to see widespread civil disobedience.
I shall be watching with interest from the confines of my garden.

 

[MalcSB]

Should be a position that you’re voted into by your fellow nurses, surely. Any government, that’s any government could just appoint any nodding donkey if not.

The Chief Nursing Officer is a civil servant. The head of the RCN will be elected by nurses.

 

[shmmeee]

I agree but there's no probably about it. Planning for a massive global health crisis that could kill hundreds of thousands or potentially millions of people should not be approached in the same way as building a car. It needs to be there ready to go from the off - there won't be time to produce and source it before it's too late (esp if people are getting sick and production/supply is affected further) as we're finding out.

If I can figure that out with basic logic and general knowledge you'd think those with access to experts would be able to. But they just ignore the warnings and carry on.

We don't have the argument about the nuclear deterrent by saying we'll start to enrich the uranium when the enemy presses the button. Too late.

But before we know it it'll be back to "we don't have the money, cuts must be made" etc. But hey, we stood clapping the NHS workers when we needed then so that's fine.

It’s been top of our risk register for years. Not preparing is on par with winding down MI5 because we can’t afford it or as you say not having a nuclear deterrent. The fact is the ideology was to underfund where possible.

Browns govt take some blame, though dealing with the GFC might be seen as an excuse for taking your eye off the ball I guess.

Not just here though. Many countries have that same nationalism. The US is the prime example, although places like China and Russia are good examples too.. Being a patriot seems to be someone who just blindly accepts that whatever their country does it the way it should be done.

If it's not a British idea or made in Britain it'll be rubbish compared to what we can come up with ourselves. If you don't believe that you're a traitor and hate Britain. The British Empire ended but the attitude towards the rest of the world still prevails for some.

"There's two ways of doing something - the British way and the wrong way"

Ha! Suppose I succumbed to my own British exceptionalism there!

 

[Skybluefaz]

I've a feeling there's going to be a worldwide epidemic of people ignoring guidelines this weekend.

A combination of good weather and religious festivals is going to see widespread civil disobedience.
I shall be watching with interest from the confines of my garden.

Some utter bawbags near us on Facebook are trying to get kids out on Easter egg hunts because it seems like stay at home is too complex an instruction for do good wankers who use the word 'fab' too much on Facebook.

 

[shmmeee]

That's correct, but you do tend to find sourcing the raw materials a hell of a lot easier then a finished product.

I don't want to be drawn into a debate about trade deals and such like, simple fact is the yanks can do what they want, too strong economically and militarily.

Yeah China too, we should probably look into banding together with like minded similar sized countries to level the playing field huh?

 

[clint van damme]

Some utter bawbags near us on Facebook are trying to get kids out on Easter egg hunts because it seems like stay at home is too complex an instruction for do good wankers who use the word 'fab' too much on Facebook.

Incredible. Fucking state of some people.
What sort of mind weighs up the pros and cons of missing out on a chocolate egg to prevent potentially catching and spreading a serious respiratory disease and decides it's worth the risk?

 

[Skybluefaz]

Incredible. Fucking state of some people.
What sort of mind weighs up the pros and cons of missing out on a chocolate egg to prevent potentially catching and spreading a serious respiratory disease and decides it's worth the risk?

Not even chocolate eggs, just pictures. Don't get why you'd coax people out for any reason at the minute.

 

[shmmeee]

Incredible. Fucking state of some people.
What sort of mind weighs up the pros and cons of missing out on a chocolate egg to prevent potentially catching and spreading a serious respiratory disease and decides it's worth the risk?

My kids are doing an egg hunt around the house, hardly rocket science. What’s up with some people?

 

[clint van damme]

My kids are doing an egg hunt around the house, hardly rocket science. What’s up with some people?

I'm appreciate my kids are not of an egg hunting age but fuck me, nearly a 1000 people died yesterday.
Just use some common sense. Like you say, do one round the house, not difficult.

 

[wingy]

Better managed I think. AFAIK there’s still no SARS-Cov-1 vaccine.

Think there is But it came after the event.

 

[Marty]

Yeah China too, we should probably look into banding together with like minded similar sized countries to level the playing field huh?

Well, there's huge divisions within the EU between member states for starters, but lets not go down that rabbit hole. Rightly or wrongly, the people of this nation voted to leave, time to get over it and to make the best of the it.

 

[Johnnythespider]

I need more beer. So to sum up, seems like the situation is currently:

1. Boris and the government fucked up so badly that 10,000 people and rising died, with the U.K. on course to be worst hit in Europe. Boris almost died himself due to his own carelessness and stupidity.

2. Boris is now a hero for surviving, whereas the 10,000 dead are barely mentioned in the media.

4. China are the great evil who lie about death figures and don’t care about their own people... we deliberately withhold how many healthcare workers have died, that’s ok.

5. it’s nurses’ own fault for overusing PPE

Boozy Easter coming up

Regarding point 2, it's because they weren't fighters like Boris

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Those nasty evil Europeans eh.

nothing wrong with Europeans

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Can anyone explain what happened with SARS? I remember it, but it barely touched these shores did it.

That was a Coronavirus, so what happened there and how long was it before they managed to get a vaccine?

There were a lot fewer deaths too.

What was different?

If I remember rightly it was deadlier, but harder to catch. Don't take that as gospel though.

What needs to be remembered is that there are probably hundreds of these things that organisations like the WHO monitor and track, nipping them in the bud before they start.

It's inevitable that once in a while one will manage to get through. For people like Trump to then have a go at them and, again, threaten to cut funding is ridiculous. This would've happened a long time again and way more often without them. So when one does it's down to your own healthcare system and preparations. As has been pointed out, it's not IF these things happen, it's WHEN.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

If I remember rightly it was deadlier, but harder to catch. Don't take that as gospel though.

What needs to be remembered is that there are probably hundreds of these things that organisations like the WHO monitor and track, nipping them in the bud before they start.

It's inevitable that once in a while one will manage to get through. For people like Trump to then have a go at them and, again, threaten to cut funding is ridiculous. This would've happened a long time again and way more often without them. So when one does it's down to your own healthcare system and preparations. As has been pointed out, it's not IF these things happen, it's WHEN.

Trump said yesterday that “antibiotics would usually fix these things but the germ has got too smart”

 

[wingy]

OMG .
Hancock is even questioning whether the health workers who've died caught it at work.
He's obviously lost it now

Time to pull him out.

 

[Otis]

If I remember rightly it was deadlier, but harder to catch. Don't take that as gospel though.

What needs to be remembered is that there are probably hundreds of these things that organisations like the WHO monitor and track, nipping them in the bud before they start.

It's inevitable that once in a while one will manage to get through. For people like Trump to then have a go at them and, again, threaten to cut funding is ridiculous. This would've happened a long time again and way more often without them. So when one does it's down to your own healthcare system and preparations. As has been pointed out, it's not IF these things happen, it's WHEN.

With Trump it's always someone else's fault and he's always looking to apportion blame.

 

[shmmeee]

OMG .
Hancock is even questioning whether the health workers who've died caught it at work.
He's obviously lost it now

Time to pull him out.

All the way through it’s been cover your arse first, public health and basic decency second TBH.

 

[Skybluefaz]

OMG .
Hancock is even questioning whether the health workers who've died caught it at work.
He's obviously lost it now

Time to pull him out.

This legit? My sister who is a nurse in a maternity ward has been confirmed to have it. I thought he was an incompetent twonk as it was. If this is true my blood pressure will go up a few notches

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

With Trump it's always someone else's fault and he's always looking to apportion blame.

Without doubt that's his MO. The frightening thing is how many people believe him, and even worse when it's pointed out his revisionist take on things with old tweets/comments they still refuse to believe he was ever wrong or changed his rhetoric.

 

[wingy]

This legit? My sister who is a nurse in a maternity ward has been confirmed to have it. I thought he was an incompetent twonk as it was. If this is true my blood pressure will go up a few notches

Just shown him doing a web interview on the beeb.
Said they're investigating to see whether they caught it at work or elsewhere.
Is there a bit of an anomaly building up around the number of victims here as well?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Just shown him doing a web interview on the beeb.
Said they're investigating to see whether they caught it at work or elsewhere.
Is there a bit of an anomaly building up around the number of victims here as well?

yeah he needs to go, even from a conservative point of view he’ll do them massive damage with this stuff. Then again maybe he’s being lined up as the fall guy for afterwards.

 

[wingy]

Without doubt that's his MO. The frightening thing is how many people believe him, and even worse when it's pointed out his revisionist take on things with old tweets/comments they still refuse to believe he was ever wrong or changed his rhetoric.

With Trump it's always someone else's fault and he's always looking to apportion blame.

Make America great !!
No ,malign.and besmirch everyone else.

 

[wingy]

yeah he needs to go, even from a conservative point of view he’ll do them massive damage with this stuff. Then again maybe he’s being lined up as the fall guy for afterwards.

I'm wondering if he'd prefer to go now tbf and that's prompting these latest faux pas.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

A lot has gone on and many things have happened which have changed some perceptions, but nobody should lose sight of the reality of who our leader really is.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Just shown him doing a web interview on the beeb.
Said they're investigating to see whether they caught it at work or elsewhere.
Is there a bit of an anomaly building up around the number of victims here as well?

He’s also bullshitting about the number- 27 people in the NHS have died, not 19, he can’t even tell the truth about that

sorry- 28

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Just shown him doing a web interview on the beeb.
Said they're investigating to see whether they caught it at work or elsewhere.
Is there a bit of an anomaly building up around the number of victims here as well?

Deflecting. Instead of investigating this (I wonder if people caught this disease in the place which is filled with people with it that they have to be very close to to treat them or elsewhere) how about investigating where the fuck all the PPE and ventilators you supposedly had on order have got to.

As for the idea of NHS workers 'wasting' PPE that is just unbelievable. At a time like this when they're exposed to a deadly contagion the only way they could be wasting it is by setting fire to it.

#slapfornhs

 

[clint van damme]

Make America great !!
No ,malign.and besmirch everyone else.

The States are already well on the road to removing the independent checks and balances that hold the government to account.
They've a long way to go until they get to Orbans Hungary or Modis India but they're on that path.
We need to be vigilant it doesn't happen here.