Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (14 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Sun??!

Clear blue sky and 26c here, cheers!

 

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[David O'Day]

Clear blue sky and 26c here, cheers!

Would you rather be in Italy though?

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[David O'Day]

The WHO have confirmed what were thought to be reinfections in a number people in South Korea were false positives caused by death long cells

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[David O'Day]

63k tests yesterday, so they fudged the figures for 1 day and are now back to nowhere hitting their target of 100k yet again

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It's just ludicrous that they spent so much effort to 'meet' that target which could so easily be disproved and has since fallen back again. Why? It's just being misleading for the sake of being misleading and generating distrust. If they put that much effort into PPE etc we'd have no problem.

If they'd just said "we set an ambitious target and didn't meet it but we're committed to continue increasing testing" it'd be forgotten about in a day. Instead they've just added to the long list of stuff showing them to not be trustworthy.

 

[David O'Day]

It's just ludicrous that they spent so much effort to 'meet' that target which could so easily be disproved and has since fallen back again. Why? It's just being misleading for the sake of being misleading and generating distrust. If they put that much effort into PPE etc we'd have no problem.

If they'd just said "we set an ambitious target and didn't meet it but we're committed to continue increasing testing" it'd be forgotten about in a day. Instead they've just added to the long list of stuff showing them to not be trustworthy.

Didn't even need to set a target. Increasing testing from 18k to up to 80k is impressive enough.



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[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Testing before and after 30 April :
26 April. 1000
27 April. 1002
28 April. 1003
29 April. 1004
30 April. 2,745, 899
1 May. 1006
2 May 1007
Target achieved.

 

[wingy]

Had the gall to put himself up there to Self congratulate .

 

[clint van damme]

It's just ludicrous that they spent so much effort to 'meet' that target which could so easily be disproved and has since fallen back again. Why? It's just being misleading for the sake of being misleading and generating distrust. If they put that much effort into PPE etc we'd have no problem.

If they'd just said "we set an ambitious target and didn't meet it but we're committed to continue increasing testing" it'd be forgotten about in a day. Instead they've just added to the long list of stuff showing them to not be trustworthy.

Look at the fanfare their fudged number got.
That's why they did it!

 

[David O'Day]

Look at the fanfare their fudged number got.
That's why they did it!

But it's being torn apart already and once parliament is sitting on Monday they will be forced to admit it is wrong.




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[chiefdave]

But it's being torn apart already and once parliament is sitting on Monday they will be forced to admit it is wrong.

That won't matter the seed is sown now and a lot of people will believe they hit the target. Not to mention if you google it the top results will be news reports on how they hit the target.

Think the £350m on the side of a bus showed them how much they could get away with. It was immediately discredited but they kept it up there and had people referencing it as fact. That seemed to trigger a move from spin to outright lying. Sure you can find instances prior to that (Cameron's contract with the electorate springs to mind) but nothing really as easily discredited that was still widely repeated and held up as fact.

 

[clint van damme]

But it's being torn apart already and once parliament is sitting on Monday they will be forced to admit it is wrong.




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You only have to look at social media to see there are people who don't accept criticism of it and think anyone doing so is just looking for excuses to be negative. It's funny and frightening at the same time.

 

[David O'Day]

You only have to look at social media to see there are people who don't accept criticism of it and think anyone doing so is just looking for excuses to be negative. It's funny and frightening at the same time.

Social media is mostly full of boys these days

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[clint van damme]

Social media is mostly full of boys these days

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It is but there's members of the press doing it, Nadine Dorries gloating, it's a joke.

It's like when Johnson stood up the other day and said the government's handling of the crisis had been a success and hardly anyone challenges him on it. Country's fucked

 

[Ian1779]

It is but there's members of the press doing it, Nadine Dorries gloating, it's a joke.

It's like when Johnson stood up the other day and said the government's handling of the crisis had been a success and hardly anyone challenges him on it. Country's fucked

BuT wHy Do YoU hAtE tHiS cOuNtRy....? YoU’rE sO uNpAtRiOtIc....

 

[Skybluefaz]

Wow, the cowardly bastards didn't even have the bottle to release the testing figures before the conference

 

[Gray]

What if only 63k needed testing that day? I'm not saying the numbers the other day were truthful, but someone from my work went to get tested at the Ricoh, said no one was there. (maybe everyone went to St Andrews instead) but you cant test people aren't there

 

[Skybluefaz]

What if only 63k needed testing that day? I'm not saying the numbers the other day were truthful, but someone from my work went to get tested at the Ricoh, said no one was there. (maybe everyone went to St Andrews instead) but you cant test people aren't there

Why say they are going to test 100k people a day then?

 

[Astute]

What if only 63k needed testing that day? I'm not saying the numbers the other day were truthful, but someone from my work went to get tested at the Ricoh, said no one was there. (maybe everyone went to St Andrews instead) but you cant test people aren't there

This is a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party.

Just like we knew that a pandemic was going to happen so should have stockpiled everything needed. But the truth is we hadn't had a pandemic for over 100 years. And those same people ignore that Labour didn't prepare for one either.

 

[Astute]

Why say they are going to test 100k people a day then?

It is better to be able to test more than needed than not be able to test as many as needed as previously.

Most people still working are allowed to be tested. But most won't bother.

 

[Gray]

Why say they are going to test 100k people a day then?

Because they have capacity to test 100k a day.. but only 63k needed to be tested that day

 

[Gazolba]

Just read an article about how people are feeling guilty for circumventing the social distancing rules:
www.bbc.com/news/uk-52501417
What got me was this sentence:
"We haven't got razors, clippers or anything like that so cutting it myself just wasn't an option. Mum is in touch with this underground network of hairdressers who have been working from home."
"Underground network of hairdressers", who would have ever thought such a thing could exist!

 

[chiefdave]

What if only 63k needed testing that day? I'm not saying the numbers the other day were truthful, but someone from my work went to get tested at the Ricoh, said no one was there. (maybe everyone went to St Andrews instead) but you cant test people aren't there

Then why is there so many people on social media saying they can't get a test? Why is there people booking tests to find the only option is to go to a testing centre hours away? Why are people turning up at testing centres at the booked time to find there is no staff?

 

[David O'Day]

Then why is there so many people on social media saying they can't get a test? Why is there people booking tests to find the only option is to go to a testing centre hours away? Why are people turning up at testing centres at the booked time to find there is no staff?

They haven't even tested most of people who they said would get tested in care homes as the staff aren't allowed to administer the tests

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[David O'Day]

It is but there's members of the press doing it, Nadine Dorries gloating, it's a joke.

It's like when Johnson stood up the other day and said the government's handling of the crisis had been a success and hardly anyone challenges him on it. Country's fucked

But mad nad is a joke to both the left and right.

Would not worry what see says

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[chiefdave]

This is a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party.

Just like we knew that a pandemic was going to happen so should have stockpiled everything needed. But the truth is we hadn't had a pandemic for over 100 years. And those same people ignore that Labour didn't prepare for one either.

I'm interested to know more detail of how you believe the response to Covid-19 to be the fault of Labour?

It was under a Labour government that the National Risk Register was created which highlights the dangers of a pandemic. Then in 2009 there was the swine flu pandemic. An independent review was carried out into the governments response and it was found to be "proportionate and effective" although there was a warning that future governments should not be complacent.

We then move to 10 years of the Conservatives, starting with the coalition. During that time they brought in the Health and Social Care Act 2012 despite warnings the changes being made to the NHS would lead to it being unable to cope with things such as a pandemic outbreak. Following that they carried out Exercise Cygnus to test the countries preparedness for a pandemic outbreak and completely ignored the results, of course it was originally supposed to take place in 2014 but the government postponed it.

 

[chiefdave]

They haven't even tested most of people who they said would get tested in care homes as the staff aren't allowed to administer the tests

Down to 56,397 people tested in todays figures. Still no home testing kits available on the booking site as it seems they sent out thousands to Conservative party members to fudge the numbers.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

This is a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party.

Just like we knew that a pandemic was going to happen so should have stockpiled everything needed. But the truth is we hadn't had a pandemic for over 100 years. And those same people ignore that Labour didn't prepare for one either.

Again for a Labour supporter you seem very quick to jump on Labour's back.

Fact is we did the Operation Cygnus in 2016 that highlighted these deficiencies and never acted upon them. At what point has Labour been in control since them to rectify the situation?

Personally I reckon if Labour had been in we'd have still not sorted out the shortfall and been in the same position as we are now. But we can never know. So all we can criticise is those that have had the opportunity and that is the Tories.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Because they have capacity to test 100k a day.. but only 63k needed to be tested that day

Right. One of the Hancock excuses. Given that when the testing website went live it broke after a few minutes due to demand suggests people want testing. And how many health workers do we have? If you have spare capacity get them to get tested as they're the most at risk. Or get them round to the care homes. There is no such thing as not having enough people who need to be tested.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

The WHO say they are pointless don’t they?

 

[David O'Day]

Shouting at mps is not sufficient social distancing it seems

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[SkyBlueDom26]

 

[chiefdave]

I'm going to take a wild guess here. He didn't show any of this "enormous evidence" and we've just got to take his word for it?

 

[clint van damme]

Haha! If the man who said smoking doesn't kill said it then it must be true!!

 

[Ian1779]

Pompeo is more of a fantasist than Trump.... and that takes some beating!