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Blind-Faith

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While I am all for staying lockdown and think they have rushed raising restrictions and please correct me if I am wrong , but has the R number slightly increased because of the care home situation?
 

chiefdave

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Tories have bailed out tfl and tried to blame sadiq Khan and got laughed at by such known socialists as the financial timesk
They've put up fares, raised the congestion and emissions charges while extending hours and adding weekends, stopped free travel for children and are bringing in charges for over-60s at peak times.

Bizarrely despite all those things being conditions put in place by the government they're trying to blame it on Khan.
 

chiefdave

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So. After Boris’ big Sunday address and all the noise he made about the “R” number now it’s already going up in today’s briefing It’s been stated that apparently the “R” number is not the focus. It’s the comparison charts all over again.
Weeks of Wittey talking about how important the R number is. R number goes up as many predicted it would and suddenly the government are saying the R isn't important.

They're treating people like complete idiots, sadly there's a lot of people just accepting what they are told.
 

hill83

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So. After Boris’ big Sunday address and all the noise he made about the “R” number, now it’s already going up in today’s briefing It’s been stated that apparently the “R” number is not the focus. It’s the comparison charts all over again.

I’ve just had a letter from my lads school saying the prospect of them opening to more children is ALL about the R number. So which is it. Fucking windmilling bastards this lot. And I don’t mean the school.
 
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David O'Day

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They've put up fares, raised the congestion and emissions charges while extending hours and adding weekends, stopped free travel for children and are bringing in charges for over-60s at peak times.

Bizarrely despite all those things being conditions put in place by the government they're trying to blame it on Khan.
But are failing and being laughed at. Khan probably needed to do some of that to keep tfl running but didn't want to for political reasons.

Now he just says 700 million a year cut in funding and a 94 percent drip in fares matw

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hill83

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Weeks of Wittey talking about how important the R number is. R number goes up as many predicted it would and suddenly the government are saying the R isn't important.

They're treating people like complete idiots, sadly there's a lot of people just accepting what they are told.

It's not even gone up as a result of the relaxed lock down rules. It's 3 week old data. That's still to come.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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So. After Boris’ big Sunday address and all the noise he made about the “R” number, now it’s already going up in today’s briefing It’s been stated that apparently the “R” number is not the focus. It’s the comparison charts all over again.

It's ridiculous. He knows it going back up should lead to reintroducing lockdown but that stops the economy starting again which I imagine a lot of his party are looking for. So got to find a reason to continue on this path.

I've heard it had something to do with the care homes, but it's way too quick to be part of the 'back to work' part. With the time lag it *may* be linked to the May Day bank holiday when a few people got silly and didn't maintain the lockdown rules as well as the could.

So end of the month the relaxing will be apparent in the figures and I think it's going to be very unpleasant reading and another thing to add to the case for incompetence of this government.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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They've put up fares, raised the congestion and emissions charges while extending hours and adding weekends, stopped free travel for children and are bringing in charges for over-60s at peak times.

Bizarrely despite all those things being conditions put in place by the government they're trying to blame it on Khan.

It's just becoming a joke. How can there be anyone left in the country who can't see they treat people as completely stupid if they put stuff like that out and expect it to be accepted as true?
 

Brylowes

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I’ve just had a letter from my lads school saying the prospect of them opening to more children is ALL about the R number. So which is it. Fucking windmilling bastards this lot. And I don’t mean the school.
It’ll be which ever ever one suits there position the most,
And I don’t mean the school either.
 

fernandopartridge

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It's just becoming a joke. How can there be anyone left in the country who can't see they treat people as completely stupid if they put stuff like that out and expect it to be accepted as true?
These people (and some post on here) are so heavily invested in backing what the tories do, and, so as to not lose face I think, they just ignore it or look to excuse it.

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fernandopartridge

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It's ridiculous. He knows it going back up should lead to reintroducing lockdown but that stops the economy starting again which I imagine a lot of his party are looking for. So got to find a reason to continue on this path.

I've heard it had something to do with the care homes, but it's way too quick to be part of the 'back to work' part. With the time lag it *may* be linked to the May Day bank holiday when a few people got silly and didn't maintain the lockdown rules as well as the could.

So end of the month the relaxing will be apparent in the figures and I think it's going to be very unpleasant reading and another thing to add to the case for incompetence of this government.
Case numbers are to R what debt is to deficit. Seems odd to focus on the effect rather than the cause.

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LastGarrison

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An email went around where my Missus works yesterday basically saying that most cases coming in and being spread in the hospital are from care homes.

They have now changed their procedure that anyone coming in from a care home has to be isolated on their own and then tested. If they test positive they get moved to the COVID ward and if not they have to stay isolated for 14 days and further tests conducted.

A logistical nightmare and extremely drastic measures but shows where they feel the real problem is coming from. Something like 12.5k of COVID deaths have been in care homes.

An utter disgrace.
 
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skybluetony176

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An email went around where my Missus works yesterday basically saying that most cases coming in and being spread in the hospital is from care homes.

They have now changed their procedure that anyone coming in from a care home has to be isolated on their own and then tested. If they test positive they get moved to the COVID ward and if not they have to stay isolated for 14 days and further tests conducted.

A logistical nightmare and extremely drastic measures but shows where they feel the real problem is coming from. Something like 12.5k of COVID deaths have been in care homes.

An utter disgrace.
So basically a failure to control transfers from hospitals caused its own pandemic in nursing homes and then as a result of that pandemic patients are having to go into hospitals with Coronavirus for treatment from those nursing homes causing a strain on the NHS.
 

LastGarrison

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So basically a failure to control transfers from hospitals caused its own pandemic in nursing homes and then as a result of that pandemic patients are having to go into hospitals with Coronavirus for treatment from those nursing homes causing a strain on the NHS.
You forgot the bit where thousands of them are dying as a result but apart from that pretty much spot on.
 

skybluetony176

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The R value will increase above 1 in the next week and then will schools will still be set to open on 1 June ?
You bet.
Common sense left the room a few weeks ago .
Already spoke to my youngests school and told them she won’t be going back and the school were almost thankful. No fines being issued or any other actions they’ve assured us. Speaking to friends who have children due back on June 1st that’s pretty much their experience too. I get the impression that schools and parents are just going to defy the government en masse.
 

fernandopartridge

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I'm out on my local high street to go to the butchers. It is significantly busier, lots of traffic and people shopping as families. Expecting 'common sense' from a population that contains demonstrably thick people was never going to work.

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