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Brighton Sky Blue

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It’s amazing how much it differs. Not sure if it’s council to council or school to school. My eldest is in High School but not one of the years going back so I can’t answer that one. I’ve distinctly got the impression from my youngest’s school that they don’t want them back. We’ve advised them that we’re not sending my youngest back as my wife needs to shield and they almost seemed relieved. I think even if my wife wasn’t shielding I would be happy sending mine back full time as you’re expected too but that’s just me, I’m not judging anyone who feels different. Your kids your decision. I think the schools and government needs to see it that way also. At least until we understand child to child transmission and then child to adult transmission better. Can’t help but feel that these first waves of children going back are lab rats.

We are holding remote exams for 2 weeks after half term and there is vague talk of exam classes coming in for some practical subjects but the junior years would seem to still be gone even for that.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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2615 infections , 338 deaths

Stubbornly staying in the thousands. Of course positive it’s coming down but can’t help thinking the restrictions should have been maintained for a week or two longer
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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2615 infections , 338 deaths

Stubbornly staying in the thousands. Of course positive it’s coming down but can’t help thinking the restrictions should have been maintained for a week or two longer

It seems that the pressure on the school decision is reaching a critical mass
 

AVWskyblue

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177k tests done on just 60k people, spinning the numbers somewhat.

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Not really, my wife was admitted to hospital friday evening after they treated her they also covid 19 tested her. She was again admitted on sunday evening ( womens trouble) and after treatment again covid tested,so two tests in two days on the same patient, how many more would have been double tested too?


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SkyBlueDom26

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Antibody tests to be through the nhs and ready in the next 2 weeks, be interesting to see what Hancock says tonight! Can’t wait to see if I’ve already had it, I rekon most will have
 

chiefdave

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Antibody tests to be through the nhs and ready in the next 2 weeks, be interesting to see what Hancock says tonight! Can’t wait to see if I’ve already had it, I rekon most will have
Good news. Any info on what the capacity is?

Has it ever been confirmed you can't get it twice?
 

TomRad85

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The above exchange is exactly part of the reason my lad isn't going back yet.
Which is absolutely fine mate, it's your right and no one should be forced to do anything. But I think it's also MusicDatings right to send his kid back if he feels it's safe in said kids particular school.

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hill83

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Which is absolutely fine mate, it's your right and no one should be forced to do anything. But I think it's also MusicDatings right to send his kid back if he feels it's safe in said kids particular school.

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Yeah 100%
 

clint van damme

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Good news. Any info on what the capacity is?

Has it ever been confirmed you can't get it twice?

In the Sky news article the part time PM says it's highly unlikely.
A professor of infectious diseases contradicts him - who to believe? The professor or the serial bullshitter?
 

shmmeee

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I’d be amazed if more than 10% of the population have had it considering the results of the antibody surveys in other countries all came out at around 5%.

Oof that's long, I'll have to read that after work. You're probably right.

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Nutshell is: no differences in catching it for any particular age group. No info on transmission as this was just a survey of who has it right now (well for the last two weeks).

Not sure why certain groups would transmit less, but have seen it speculated so who knows.
 
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I hope Johnson is right otherwise there's every chance life wont be the same until a vaccine is found
A small aside and question, why are we heading vaccine rather than antiviral? Surely minimising the effects would be sufficient?

(We have expoert accountants, lawyers, whatever on here, we must have a medic with an interest in the macro!)
 

shmmeee

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I hope Johnson is right otherwise there's every chance life wont be the same until a vaccine is found

If you can recatch it in a short (I.e. less than a year) period, a vaccine won’t be coming. I think it was Whitty who made that point right at the start of all this.
 

shmmeee

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A small aside and question, why are we heading vaccine rather than antiviral? Surely minimising the effects would be sufficient?

(We have expoert accountants, lawyers, whatever on here, we must have a medic with an interest in the macro!)

I think we are looking at antivirals as well, but the obvious answer is that some people have undiagnosed underlying illnesses and there’s been lots of reports of people suddenly deteriorating in a matter of hours after feeling OK, so you’d still get significant excess deaths even if hospital survival rates improved dramatically.
 

David O'Day

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Not really, my wife was admitted to hospital friday evening after they treated her they also covid 19 tested her. She was again admitted on sunday evening ( womens trouble) and after treatment again covid tested,so two tests in two days on the same patient, how many more would have been double tested too?


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Those tests occurred on different days

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David O'Day

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With regards to getting it twice.

As with most coronavirus you probably could get it twice but getting it will give some kind of immunity but for how long no one knows

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chiefdave

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Earlier lockdown could have prevented three-quarters of UK coronavirus deaths, modelling suggests

It’s not like we had at least 2 weeks head start, no one could have seen this coming despite the the warnings in January, why do I hate my country so much, I need to stop being negative, I would rather live in Italy etc.
Not good reading. Saw this a couple of days ago as well which is also troubling.
The UK government was ready for this pandemic. Until it sabotaged its own system | George Monbiot
 

chiefdave

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A small aside and question, why are we heading vaccine rather than antiviral? Surely minimising the effects would be sufficient?
I'm assuming, maybe naively, this is being looked into with as much effort as a vaccine. If we can relatively quickly get to a situation where popping a few pills makes getting the virus comparable to flu or anything else we don't go into a complete panic about then we're good to go.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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A small aside and question, why are we heading vaccine rather than antiviral? Surely minimising the effects would be sufficient?

(We have expoert accountants, lawyers, whatever on here, we must have a medic with an interest in the macro!)

Antivirals are in the works too but our progress with them isn’t as advanced as with antibiotics. There is a Japanese drug showing some early promise I think but very early days. It’s also not helped by the virus being seemingly less dangerous than the body’s overactive response to it-so I don’t know if an antiviral is even the right approach
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Great news about the NHS surcharge

Pretty embarrassing for Johnson though. In PMQs yesterday he was insisting it couldn't be removed and that removing it would cost £900m, a figure that was quickly proved to be incorrect by over £800m.


Seems like once again something he's announced/leaked hasn't gone down well with the public so change it sharpish. At least this time it can definitely be called a u-turn as it was from the horses' mouth rather than a leak.

Fact that in 24 hours he has gone from the surcharge being absolutely necessary to scrapped for NHS workers shows he doesn't give a shit about the NHS workers, just what is popular.
 

David O'Day

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It's comedy watching the government pretend removing the surcharge for NHS workers was always their plan.

Johnson done like a kipper by Starmer with real world results

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I don't know if it's just me being really stupid but they keep putting up this lockdown easing graphic and it's really starting to bug me,

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Surely the horizontal axis is time and the vertical axis is R, so surely the line for R=1 should be horizontal, not vertical. It's bugged me since they first showed it but no-one else seems to have noticed or mentioned it, so it is just me being really dense and misunderstanding the graphic?

My only other thought is that the horizontal axis is R, but decreases from L-R rather than the usual increasing and the vertical axis is cases?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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5% of the uk has already had coronavirus from a study the government carried out, imagine how many people have actually had it once the antibody tests are rolled out! I rekon 50/60%.... hopefully next weekend lots of stuff reopens safely
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I don't know if it's just me being really stupid but they keep putting up this lockdown easing graphic and it's really starting to bug me,

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Surely the horizontal axis is time and the vertical axis is R, so surely the line for R=1 should be horizontal, not vertical. It's bugged me since they first showed it but no-one else seems to have noticed or mentioned it, so it is just me being really dense and misunderstanding the graphic?

My only other thought is that the horizontal axis is R, but decreases from L-R rather than the usual increasing and the vertical axis is cases?

I think the y-axis is Covid caseload and the vertical line marks the case load that implies R=1
 

David O'Day

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5% of the uk has already had coronavirus from a study the government carried out, imagine how many people have actually had it once the antibody tests are rolled out! I rekon 50/60%.... hopefully next weekend lots of stuff reopens safely
Utter nonsense.

You can't times a representative sample test result.



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fernandopartridge

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5% of the uk has already had coronavirus from a study the government carried out, imagine how many people have actually had it once the antibody tests are rolled out! I rekon 50/60%.... hopefully next weekend lots of stuff reopens safely
Why would the anti body test show the study to be so wrong? I think you're wrong on this one Dom. Even if the antibody test showed 10% of the population had been affected it would be a huge huge difference from modelling

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