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ccfcway

ccfcway

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cov cov cov

I am a massively proud englishman living abroad, yet i am an even more proud cov fan

I would 100% rather Cov win their 1st game of the season that England get to the quarter finals of this tourny


COV every time for me, thats why it hurts so much what SISU are doing to this great club of OURS !!!
 
skybluelee

skybluelee

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Want England to do well but Coventry's fortunes a somewhere around a million times more important to me.
 
Otis

Otis

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Each and every to their own I guess.

Do think people may well change their minds though should England ever win anything. It would the party to end all parties. A whole nation in unison and I think the feel good factor could well carry on for quite some time. Would give the whole country such a boost and we'd all be feeling so much better about ourselves.

I just think an England win would be so much bigger than just the football.
 
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Macca

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torchomatic said:
What I don't get with England fans is that they will slag players off week in week out in the Premiership then cheer them when they put an England shirt on. I don't think there is too much honour in playing for England nowadays. Going by how piss poor THEY* are.

The England attitude annoys me. The expectation that they are a big side who somehow deserve success. Still going on about '66 and all that nearly fifty years later. It would be unbearable if England actually won something, but that is never likely to happen.






*I put "they" as they're not my team.
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That paragraph could be about city if you replaced 66 with 87
 
skybluelee

skybluelee

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Otis said:
Each and every to their own I guess.

Do think people may well change their minds though should England ever win anything. It would the party to end all parties. A whole nation in unison and I think the feel good factor could well carry on for quite some time. Would give the whole country such a boost and we'd all be feeling so much better about ourselves.

I just think an England win would be so much bigger than just the football.
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So you would genuinely get more of a buzz if Rooney, Cole, Gerrard etc were to win the Euros than if a bunch of mainly local kids won promotion for Coventry next season? I am gobsmacked, but like you say, each to their own.
 
ricohroar

ricohroar

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Can't even be bothered to watch the over rated tossers of England. City all the way. If I'm honest I love playing football I love city and watch them home and away but any other match on tv or for real I find boring.

Oh apart from watching my boys play
 
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Macca

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skybluelee said:
So you would genuinely get more of a buzz if Rooney, Cole, Gerrard etc were to win the Euros than if a bunch of mainly local kids won promotion for Coventry next season? I am gobsmacked, but like you say, each to their own.
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I m with Otis on this one. Maybe a few years ago when we had a real club it might have been different
 
Otis

Otis

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The days are long gone when your team's players were local and lived locally and actually cared about the clubs they played for. The players used to be in the community and part of the community. They used to be one of us.

Footballers on the whole are all mercenaries these days unfortunately.
 
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bulkingtonskyblues

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in the past it would always have been the city but after not renewing my season ticket for the first time in 8 years i will have to say england, my love for cov has almost died
 
Otis

Otis

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Totally understand that feeling.

No ground, owners that don't give a shit about us and many players seemingly behaving in the same vein.

It's been nothing but pain for many, many years.
 
Johnnythespider

Johnnythespider

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Haven't read through the thread so apologies if this has already been said but as they are never likely to play against each other it's both for me :wave:
 
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Macca

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Otis said:
Totally understand that feeling.

No ground, owners that don't give a shit about us and many players seemingly behaving in the same vein.

It's been nothing but pain for many, many years.
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It's more an interest than a passion these days. And has been since we became Ricoh rovers
 
Otis

Otis

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Have to say that sometimes at the moment it doesn't even feel like our club anymore.
 
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abertaweskyblue

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With me being a City supporter, but also a proud Englishman living in Wales for the past 25 years, I would have to say country.
I love living here and most of the people are friendly enough, but I do get fed up with the small-minded vitriolic spite that I get whenever England are participating in either the WC or Euro finals. It's always the same old shite.
1. You always go on about 1966 (what.....???)
2. You always reckon you're better than you are (never in a million years - the vast majority of England fans know that we are average and have been for a while)
3. You always reckon you're going to win the thing (we've got no chance - and have had no chance of winning anything for a long time)
4. BBC/ITV are ALWAYS banging on about England when they're covering another game (yes - England do often get a mention, say during half-time, but I expect it would be the same for any other home nation if they qualified. England just happen to be the only home nation in the finals (again!). I'm sure German TV mention any news on their their own national team when they're covering another game. Same with all the other participating nations)

It would just give me a lot of pleasure to see England win something and shut them up.
I just hope one day that Wales qualifies for a major finals tournament and they can concentrate on their own team, instead of always cheering on "whoever's playing against England". Perhaps they will just see what it's like to enjoy the "buzz" of following their nation in a major finals - win, lose or draw.
 
Changeyourface

Changeyourface

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abertaweskyblue said:
With me being a City supporter, but also a proud Englishman living in Wales for the past 25 years, I would have to say country.
I love living here and most of the people are friendly enough, but I do get fed up with the small-minded vitriolic spite that I get whenever England are participating in either the WC or Euro finals. It's always the same old shite.
1. You always go on about 1966 (what.....???)
2. You always reckon you're better than you are (never in a million years - the vast majority of England fans know that we are average and have been for a while)
3. You always reckon you're going to win the thing (we've got no chance - and have had no chance of winning anything for a long time)
4. BBC/ITV are ALWAYS banging on about England when they're covering another game (yes - England do often get a mention, say during half-time, but I expect it would be the same for any other home nation if they qualified. England just happen to be the only home nation in the finals (again!). I'm sure German TV mention any news on their their own national team when they're covering another game. Same with all the other participating nations)

It would just give me a lot of pleasure to see England win something and shut them up.
I just hope one day that Wales qualifies for a major finals tournament and they can concentrate on their own team, instead of always cheering on "whoever's playing against England". Perhaps they will just see what it's like to enjoy the "buzz" of following their nation in a major finals - win, lose or draw.
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The thing that most Scottish and Welsh fans hate about England is the unbelievable arrogance. For instance you invented football, yes the FA was the first to be founded and the first to decided the rules but football was played all over Britain for centuries and the way it's played today i.e you can pass forwards, 4-4-2 formation instead of 2 defenders and eight up front was originally pioneered by teams like Queen of the South, Queens Park, Aberdeen etc. Also you all seem to believe that Britain = England, hence flying the Union Jack at England games, advertisments and television reminding people to support England throughtout the whole of the U.K, singing the "RAF from England" constantly going on about the Second World War as if you won it single handed, by the way it always makes me laugh that England fans think they have a massive rivalry with Germany. 1966 is ALWAYS fucking mentioned and, although attitudes have changed at this Euro's you always think you're a massive footballing power who deserves to win it.

Yes Scotland are piss poor but at least we know we are.
 
Otis

Otis

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Changeyourface said:
The thing that most Scottish and Welsh fans hate about England is the unbelievable arrogance. For instance you invented football, yes the FA was the first to be founded and the first to decided the rules but football was played all over Britain for centuries and the way it's played today i.e you can pass forwards, 4-4-2 formation instead of 2 defenders and eight up front was originally pioneered by teams like Queen of the South, Queens Park, Aberdeen etc. Also you all seem to believe that Britain = England, hence flying the Union Jack at England games, advertisments and television reminding people to support England throughtout the whole of the U.K, singing the "RAF from England" constantly going on about the Second World War as if you won it single handed, by the way it always makes me laugh that England fans think they have a massive rivalry with Germany. 1966 is ALWAYS fucking mentioned and, although attitudes have changed at this Euro's you always think you're a massive footballing power who deserves to win it.

Yes Scotland are piss poor but at least we know we are.
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I'm English, nearly all my friends are English and over the years I must have worked with hundreds and hundreds of England fans. Don't know where you get your info from but no-one hardly ever talked about 66 if at all, almost certainly all but never mentioned the war and like me most of them couldn't give a rats arse about the Union Jack. And most certainly people hardly ever talked about us winning anything.

It's always been the English press that have built up our expectations. England fans are always a lot more realistic.

Think you are getting mixed up maybe with banter and people just winding you up. Of course a conversation between England and Scotland fans is going to end up with a bit of ribbing on both sides. You're probably taking things too seriously.

Most England fans don't believe or bang on about anything you have alluded to above.
 
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Changeyourface

Changeyourface

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Otis said:
I'm English, nearly all my friends are English and over the years I must have worked with hundreds and hundreds of England fans. Don't know where you get your info from but no-one hardly ever talked about 66 if at all, almost certainly all but never mentioned the war and like me most of them couldn't give a rats arse about the Union Jack. And most certainly people hardly ever talked about us winning anything.

It's always been the English press that have built up our expectations. England fans are always a lot more realistic.

Think you are getting mixed up maybe with banter and people just winding you up. Of course a conversation between England and Scotland fans is going to end up with a bit of ribbing on both sides. You're probably taking things too seriously.

Most England fans don't believe or bang on about anything you have alluded to above.
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66 is definitely a media thing, yes. I was reffering to the fact that for decades England fans flew the Union Jack instead of the St George's cross. The war is always mentioned, England fans have about half a dozen songs about it. But there is a general arrogance that it's your game and you are Britain with most English people. Maybe ignorance is a better word for it as most of it isn't vindictive just general, well, ignorance. Believe me I can take a bit of banter, as you have to, supporting Coventry and Scotland. Maybe I just pick up on the things you don't because I have more of an outside perspective on things.
 
Houchens Head

Houchens Head

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Real said:
While arrogant tossers like Rooney are wearing the 3 Lions I will always put CCFC 1st.
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3 Lions??? I thought I must be wrong! Here's me thinking the song went "♪♪♫♫♪ Sea Lions on the shirt! ♪♫♫♪♫"

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covcity4life

covcity4life

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wow shocked at some of the answers

love both ,but will always choose cov over england

winning league 1 would be amazing for me as a fan,it would be our success,wouldnt have to share it

we follow this team day in day out 365 days a week,how could anyone choose country success over club? dont get it
 
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CTID

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Changeyourface said:
The thing that most Scottish and Welsh fans hate about England is the unbelievable arrogance. For instance you invented football, yes the FA was the first to be founded and the first to decided the rules but football was played all over Britain for centuries and the way it's played today i.e you can pass forwards, 4-4-2 formation instead of 2 defenders and eight up front was originally pioneered by teams like Queen of the South, Queens Park, Aberdeen etc. Also you all seem to believe that Britain = England, hence flying the Union Jack at England games, advertisments and television reminding people to support England throughtout the whole of the U.K, singing the "RAF from England" constantly going on about the Second World War as if you won it single handed, by the way it always makes me laugh that England fans think they have a massive rivalry with Germany. 1966 is ALWAYS fucking mentioned and, although attitudes have changed at this Euro's you always think you're a massive footballing power who deserves to win it.

Yes Scotland are piss poor but at least we know we are.
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haha have to say that made me smile :) It just screams "Im Scottish!!" Im yet to speak to a Scotland fan who doesnt sound massively jealous of the England team.

Nobody i know expect us to win anything, but we do expect to qualify, which if youre honest isnt an unfair expectation. And we do have a rivalry with Germany, and it works both ways. My phone hasnt stopped beeping whilst england and germany games are one because i have a number of German friends, its all football related and the war is never mentioned once. The "goal" that stood when it shounldnt, Lampards goal that didnt stand when it should, 5-1, 4-1...all adds to the friendly rivalry. I also went to the 2006 world cup and had some great banter with the German fans.

Britian? Union Jack? Who cares about that! England and St Geroge is all i care about for the next week (or possibly day). Youll never see my wave a Union Jack!

1966....1987...whats the difference? Its a one time sucess that were entitled to look back on fondly. Chin up fella theres a good chance well be out of the competition tomorrow so you can put your St Geroge flag and lighter away for another 2 years.
 
Otis

Otis

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Agree with pretty much all that.

Don't consider myself Britisih, I'm English. And I'm sure if you asked any Scot what they are they would say Scottish ahead of British every time too.
 
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