Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (140 Viewers)
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Saddlebrains
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Won't be long before we all are.
Im pissed off, i sat here getting pelters because i tried to believe the articles on things improving in other countries and the supposed good news.
Seriously down about this. Long horrible winter on the horizon
Im pissed off, i sat here getting pelters because i tried to believe the articles on things improving in other countries and the supposed good news.
Seriously down about this. Long horrible winter on the horizon
Evo1883
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Unless they shut schools etc too, places where people travel from all over to get to... Then it's all a load of shit that serves no purpose... They need to make it make sense
clint van damme
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Keep your chin up mate. At least it's not as strict as the lockdown earlier in the year.
robbiekeane
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So, what’s the general feeling around the current situation in the UK and outlook over the next few months?
Selfishly I’ve not been able to come back to see family all year and am really hoping I can come back for a few weeks at Christmas. Trying to get a feeling for how realistic that is
Selfishly I’ve not been able to come back to see family all year and am really hoping I can come back for a few weeks at Christmas. Trying to get a feeling for how realistic that is
fernandopartridge
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I'm pretty sure most of the figures are being massaged, people are not being admitted to hospital who should be. That's why the deaths at home is way in excess of normal and has been every week since March, yet they're not Covid deaths because these people are not tested.
Given the excess rates back in March and April, pretty difficult to argue it's due to untreated conditions of another sort.
Given the excess rates back in March and April, pretty difficult to argue it's due to untreated conditions of another sort.
| Home | ||||
| Week no | All deaths | COVID-19 deaths | All deaths five-year average | Excess deaths |
| Week 11 | 2,725 | 0 | 2,580 | 145 |
| Week 12 | 2,709 | 1 | 2,423 | 286 |
| Week 13 | 2,786 | 15 | 2,359 | 427 |
| Week 14 | 3,865 | 120 | 2,364 | 1,501 |
| Week 15 | 4,117 | 330 | 2,417 | 1,700 |
| Week 16 | 4,570 | 416 | 2,424 | 2,146 |
| Week 17 | 4,834 | 423 | 2,448 | 2,386 |
| Week 18 | 4,268 | 254 | 2,306 | 1,962 |
| Week 19 | 3,195 | 156 | 2,247 | 948 |
| Week 20 | 3,781 | 145 | 2,439 | 1,342 |
| Week 21 | 3,529 | 109 | 2,421 | 1,108 |
| Week 22 | 2,779 | 71 | 1,911 | 868 |
| Week 23 | 3,418 | 77 | 2,426 | 992 |
| Week 24 | 3,203 | 51 | 2,280 | 923 |
| Week 25 | 3,069 | 52 | 2,242 | 827 |
| Week 26 | 3,042 | 29 | 2,297 | 745 |
| Week 27 | 3,019 | 34 | 2,264 | 755 |
| Week 28 | 2,960 | 35 | 2,254 | 706 |
| Week 29 | 2,978 | 29 | 2,212 | 766 |
| Week 30 | 2,966 | 24 | 2,239 | 727 |
| Week 31 | 2,915 | 14 | 2,239 | 676 |
| Week 32 | 2,957 | 13 | 2,255 | 702 |
| Week 33 | 3,010 | 12 | 2,198 | 812 |
| Week 34 | 3,056 | 13 | 2,231 | 825 |
| Week 35 | 2,962 | 9 | 2,022 | 940 |
clint van damme
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The situation will change numerous times between now and Christmas so it's hard to say where we'll be then.
All I would say is if you book flights make sure your insurance is watertight
If that new testing system gets the go ahead you should be able to transit.
What the actual rules on the ground are like at that point is open to debate .
Or when you return to the states.
fernandopartridge
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By December we might be over the next peak. At the minute though I wouldn't get your hopes up.
fernandopartridge
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The new testing system isn't happening mate, it is pie in the sky nonsense. The accountancy firm Deloitte will push it as being possible for as long as the government is willing to pay them.
Deloitte gets another huge COVID contract – for ‘crazy’ plan to test millions each day
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Birmingham lockdown rules tightened as Covid cases rise
Guidance that people cannot socialise outside of their households will be made law
Sky Blue Pete
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Look at Spain and France that’s what’s coming. Not that we looked before
Grendel
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What restrictions are they applying?
Money?Basically you can't see your family, but you can get round it by taking them on a bender and getting wreckedplease somebody make it make sense
If it's in the home it can't possibly be happening in other setting's?
Even though someone has had to catch it in the other settings to bring it home in the first place.
Sky Blue Pete
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Seemingly not much. Was just saying we know what happens next
more infections
Spread into more vulnerable members of our community
More hospital admissions
More deaths
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View attachment 16886 French footy last night, seemingly no spacing needed... Close a stand and bunch together
Looks like the opposition's taking no chances though...
Brighton Sky Blue
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First confirmed case here today. Didn’t take much more than a week
robbiekeane
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Thank you, I’ll look into that. Yeh - I guess being a UK citizen they will let me into the country whatever the case, and I’m happy to quarantine afterwards (or might just pay privately for a rapid covid test on landing to put family at ease). I’ve accepted getting back to the US is going to be the issue....but worst case scenario I spend 14 days in Mexico before hand. It’s ridiculous that the entry restrictions are a political play and reciprocal instead of based on risk.
Thanks guys, sounds shit tbh
Sbarcher
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I call mine my little fella!Solihull in lockdown from Tuesday, not long till I can't see my old man again
Different one fp .
iAbra.
Automated instant read out from saliva sample using swab ,then AI reading wavelengths of spike proteins or the like
Not proven yet but claiming 96-99.5% efficacy.
David O'Day
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Different one fp .
iAbra.
Automated instant read out from saliva sample using swab ,then AI reading wavelengths of spike proteins or the like
Not proven yet but claiming 96-99.5% efficacy.
96% will lead up up to 400k false results at day if there were 10m tests a day.
Forget about it
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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And there's the problem. It's now all about the economy . We never eradicated it before when we went into total lockdown , though it was contained and reduced substantially.
Now we're just plugging holes in a leaking bath and won't be able to keep up. Soon we'll have umpteen major cities shutting down simultaneously and as they come out of lockdown even more will be going into lockdown.
We've got an almost vertical upward line on the graph of new infections spiralling out of control. Within 3 weeks we'll be well past the peak of the spring and heading for 10,000. No one's got a grip on this. We need another total lockdown but it's never going to happen for economic reasons.
Until a vaccine in readily available this will go on and on forever.
David O'Day
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If young children are safe and are not "vectors of transmission" then what the hell is Gove wibbling about?
Coronavirus: Children will stay part of rule of six, says Gove
The new restrictions on gatherings have public support, the Cabinet Office minister insists.
www.bbc.co.uk
Skybluefaz
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Scotland have put it together better than we have. Just a slight tweak but makes much more senseIf young children are safe and are not "vectors of transmission" then what the hell is Gove wibbling about?
Coronavirus: Children will stay part of rule of six, says Gove
The new restrictions on gatherings have public support, the Cabinet Office minister insists.www.bbc.co.uk
skybluetony176
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The amount of people I know who under normal circumstances wouldn’t have a good word to say about Sturgeon but are full of praise for her recently is unbelievable. Ex Boris fan boys everyone of them.
LastGarrison
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Town was busy last night (and yes I was one of them) but what do we do? With no guarantee of a vaccine we can’t stay in this state of hiatus for ever so do we just have to learn to live alongside it?
Skybluefaz
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I really don't feel like going out anymore. I'll do the minimum birthdays/weddings/barmitzvahs of which I don't think there are many planned. We don't half need the vaccine though cos I can't be the only one thinking like that.
shmmeee
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What a fucking shambles the testing was yesterday. My ex and daughter got tested this morning, though that might be because she’s a teacher and it prioritises her.
All day yesterday both of us trying to get a test, my missus (NHS staff) and my ex (teaching) not in work because my daughter had a cough and temp and reported loss of taste. We tried all combinations of people and locations including old postcodes, best we got was pretending to be in Leicester and being told to go to Aberdeen apparently.
She drove down the the Ricoh anyway, was met by a nurse and an empty testing centre only to be told she couldn’t be tested without a booking, said there’s no bookings and was told “yeah the systems playing up”.
Luckily got a test for this morning late last night and now both been tested, so off work/school until results are back. But what a palava.
Her biggest worry is having to isolate for two weeks and hand her class over just as she’s embedding routines and everything. But equally if it’s negative we’re going to have this every time one of the girls has a cold.
Testing is so vital to get some kind of normality and testing for key workers especially. Ridiculous we can’t manage it.
All day yesterday both of us trying to get a test, my missus (NHS staff) and my ex (teaching) not in work because my daughter had a cough and temp and reported loss of taste. We tried all combinations of people and locations including old postcodes, best we got was pretending to be in Leicester and being told to go to Aberdeen apparently.
She drove down the the Ricoh anyway, was met by a nurse and an empty testing centre only to be told she couldn’t be tested without a booking, said there’s no bookings and was told “yeah the systems playing up”.
Luckily got a test for this morning late last night and now both been tested, so off work/school until results are back. But what a palava.
Her biggest worry is having to isolate for two weeks and hand her class over just as she’s embedding routines and everything. But equally if it’s negative we’re going to have this every time one of the girls has a cold.
Testing is so vital to get some kind of normality and testing for key workers especially. Ridiculous we can’t manage it.
Sky Blue Pete
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Utterly ridiculous what’s happened the last few weeks. Why would you bother without symptoms?
skybluetony176
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#worldbeating
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I have to say, most of the social things I liked doing just don't seem fun anyway... so I won't be doing them, threat or no threat, until they are.
chiefdave
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There's an interesting article about our testing issues on Bloomberg. Of course mentions that we declared we would have a world beating system and are now behind everyone else. From what the article says the issue is that everything has been contracted out to private contractors who have then tried to do everything on the cheap.
Testing centres here employing staff to just dish out tests you have to do yourself which could be leading to a large number of incorrect results as people don't know how to properly administer the test. Apparently in other countries you get given the test by someone who knows what they are doing to ensure it is correct.
Seems a lot of the staff employed to man the labs setup by the private contractors were medical students who had time on their hands as universities were closed. Sure you can all work out what's happened now that the students are going back to uni. Which has left the private contractors handing the tests over to the NHS to process but they don't have the capacity so there's a growing backlog.
Would we not have been better off giving funding to local public health teams to administer testing locally and funding to the NHS to increase their lab capacity?
Sky Blue Pete
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Such wankers