Sam mccallum (13 Viewers)

[Frostie]

Playing Giles at LW wouldn't be playing him out of position, it's his natural position and is being re-coached as a LWB.

Which is why Wolves insisted he went to a team who plays with Wing Backs, we're not going to change that without good reason.
Moreso, the attacking outlet he offers from wing back is absolutely key to the way we play & for me he's a better fit for that role than McCallum.

 

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[Blind-Faith]

He did, once v Gillingham but literally as a stop gap & looked uncomfortable.

Suggesting we have one eye on him potentially covering RWB is like suggesting we sign Stephen Hughes as goalkeeper cover.

We can all dream can’t we? Gotta be better than Wilson

 

[Liquid Gold]

How awesome would be it be if we had Tues sat 4 weeks in a row and files and mcallum each got 4 games vs tired defenders? Squad game!

The only logical solution anybody has actually offered.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Giles has speed, energy and has had to get used to putting his foot in. Playing him on the left side of attacking midfield could be really smart as him closing down a team knocking the ball across the back could be really effective if we are trying to hit a team on the break. The way O'Hare harries players too could make this an effective first line of defence option. Not discounting Allen's role, or even Shippers, but it is great to have options over a compacted season.

 

[ceetee]

Nothing to do with how good either player is, I don't like having a Ioan player as cover for another loan player

 

[Stafford_SkBlue]

Could Giles be recalled by Wolves due to Jota going to Liverpool??

 

[mrtrench]

Giles for Allen ? Wtf is up with you lot

Agree, Dabo must be first choice to replace Allen.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Could Giles be recalled by Wolves due to Jota going to Liverpool??

Seems unlikely. £40m player covered by lad with handful of games at level below.

 

[Evo1883]

Mccallum is excellent cover for Giles, cracking bit of business

To be fair I can actually see them being rotated quite often, it's a very demanding position, the most demanding on a pitch tbh... They will probably share the responsibility this season... Great business tbh... Be hard to get another dabo though, rumour has it dabo runs to and from matches, irrespective of location and then plays 90

 

[Evo1883]

We won't change system, and we won't play fucking Giles in attacking midfield... Fuck me, its like when people wanted Haynes on the wing

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Our change things up option is currently two up top. If we’re looking for wingers as a change option then we need to find a right winger too. It would also mean going 4 at the back which takes Dabo’s game away, means we lose one of the 3 at the back which Fadz for one never looked comfortable in and he’s the only leader we’ve got there and completely negates the whole point of having two LWBs that don’t look completely comfortable at LB.

Again, you’re not wrong. Last season, all of our wingers were injured so we didn’t have that option.

I’m sure Robins will be looking to give himself as many options as possible.

 

[PVA]

we won't play fucking Giles in attacking midfield... Fuck me, its like when people wanted Haynes on the wing

Why won't we?

He's as much an attacking midfielder as Jones is and he was lined up to play there.

I'd be very surprised if we don't see Giles there at some point. Not necessarily as a starter or first choice, but he will get some game time there.

And its not like wanting Haynes on the wing as he only ever played LB, Giles has played most of his life as a left winger.

 

[fatso]

I just don’t get the mixed reviews on here, it’s great business from MR.

Wingbacks are integral to the way we play, and we need them to be incredibly fit to cover so much ground, as it stands if Giles or Dabo pick up an injury, we’re in trouble. Pask and Mason aren't natural wingbacks and although they are more than capable players, they are not like for like replacements. With games coming thick and fast we need to be able to rest and rotate players.

Bringing in Mcallum is a no brainer, he’s a great wingback and will provide cover and competition.

P.s. can we please stop all this nonsense about playing people out of position.

P.p.s. Walsh is not coming back. Forget it, move on.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Why won't we?

He's as much an attacking midfielder as Jones is and he was lined up to play there.

I'd be very surprised if we don't see Giles there at some point. Not necessarily as a starter or first choice, but he will get some game time there.

Jones was lined up to play there after 2 years of reevaluating what he can do, going through the training with him and teaching him how to play the position. Giles would just be chucked in there and he's on loan at us specifically as his parent club want him to play LWB.

Drop it now.

 

[Evo1883]

Why won't we?

He's as much an attacking midfielder as Jones is and he was lined up to play there.

I'd be very surprised if we don't see Giles there at some point. Not necessarily as a starter or first choice, but he will get some game time there.

We won't change our tried and tested system that the whole club trains around, to accommodate a player out of position..

Maybe if we switch late on whilst chasing a game, but there is no evidence to show that Giles has the brain to play attacking midfield just because he can run up and down a wing... We have players like bapaga to come in and play the role and develop

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Why won't we?

He's as much an attacking midfielder as Jones is and he was lined up to play there.

I'd be very surprised if we don't see Giles there at some point. Not necessarily as a starter or first choice, but he will get some game time there.

And its not like wanting Haynes on the wing as he only ever played LB, Giles has played most of his life as a left winger.

People seem to have it in their heads that Giles is a flat out left back.

 

[LevelBest]

We won't change system, and we won't play fucking Giles in attacking midfield... Fuck me, its like when people wanted Haynes on the wing

Why can't Giles play in the same position that Shipley played for a lot of last season, in a more advanced position on the left. Probably the same position that Hilssner is pencilled in for. The formation stays the same as 3/4/3 and the forward 3 will be Godden with O'Hare and Giles behind. He'd offer more of an attacking threat than Allen

 

[Evo1883]

Why can't Giles play in the same position that Shipley played for a lot of last season, in a more advanced position on the left. Probably the same position that Hilssner is pencilled in for. The formation stays the same as 3/4/3 and the forward 3 will be Godden with O'Hare and Giles behind. He'd offer more of an attacking threat than Allen

Based on what evidence would he offer more in attacking midfield, than an attacking midfielder we already have... It's not the same position and is played completely differently

 

[PVA]

We won't change our tried and tested system that the whole club trains around, to accommodate a player out of position..

Maybe if we switch late on whilst changing a game, but there is no evidence to show that Giles has the grain to play attacking midfield just because he can run up and down a wing... We have players like bapaga to come in and play the role and develop

I'm not saying change the system. I'm saying I expect to see Giles play in that AM slot now.

Not necessarily as a starter but maybe as an impact sub. It's definitely the weakest area of the squad with Jones and Bapaga injured.

We didn't have anyone to bring on in that position on Friday.

You couldn't put Dabo there for example, he's a defender/wing back, but Giles has played the vast majority of his life as a winger and could slot in there as Jones and Shipley - previously wingers - did.

 

[Evo1883]

I'm not saying change the system. I'm saying I expect to see Giles play in that AM slot now.

Not necessarily as a starter but maybe as an impact sub. It's definitely the weakest area of the squad with Jones and Bapaga injured.

We didn't have anyone to bring on in that position on Friday.

You couldn't put Dabo there for example, he's a defender/wing back, but Giles has played the vast majority of his life as a winger.

The alternative for a winger is usually to be converted into an inside forward in a front 3... Not a number 10

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

The alternative for an winger is usually to be converted into an inside forward in a front 3... Not a number 10

Our structure isn't that rigid. Look at O'Hare, he often drifts onto the wing and plays like an inside forward.

 

[PVA]

The alternative for a winger is usually to be converted into an inside forward in a front 3... Not a number 10

But that's exactly what we've done with Shipley and Jones.

 

[Evo1883]

Our structure isn't that rigid. Look at O'Hare, he often drifts onto the wing and plays like an inside forward.

Maybe so but that just covering the ground infront of him, probably manager instructions... Giles isn't a number 10, both Allen and o hare arguably are

 

[Evo1883]

But that's exactly what we've done with Shipley and Jones.

But Allen and o hare are both good enough for the role, and we have bapaga too... What reason would Robins play Giles there unless we had a massive injury crisis

 

[LevelBest]

Based on what evidence would he offer more in attacking midfield, than an attacking midfielder we already have... It's not the same position and is played completely differently

Well he'll bring a lot more pace than Allen and can cross a ball. If you're a left winger, as Giles has been then all you need to do is play more central. Hillsner said in his interview that he has been a winger but will be required to play more central

 

[PVA]

But Allen and o hare are both good enough for the role, and we have bapaga too

Yeah but look how dangerous we were on the counter attack in the second half on Friday, Giles coming on for the last 20 in place of Allen could be lethal

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

But Allen and o hare are both good enough for the role, and we have bapaga too... What reason would Robins play Giles there unless we had a massive injury crisis

Bapaga is also a winger too. If he can play there why can’t Giles?

 

[Evo1883]

Well he'll bring a lot more pace than Allen and can cross a ball. If you're a left winger, as Giles has been then all you need to do is play more central. Hillsner said in his interview that he has been a winger but will be required to play more central

Anybody that's played football knows that playing on the wing and playing centrally as an attacking midfielder isn't as simple as saying... I've got pace I can play there Robins was obviously trying to convert Jones to the role as we don't play wingers and Jones couldn't play Wing back

 

[Evo1883]

Yeah but look how dangerous we were on the counter attack in the second half on Friday, Giles coming on for the last 20 in place of Allen could be lethal

Could be, but I'd rather develop bapaga who looks like he will be a bit shit hot in that role anyway

 

[PVA]

Bapaga is also a winger too. If he can play there why can’t Giles?

Exactly!

So that's Jones, Shipley and Bapaga who are natural wingers that can apparently play there.

But Giles, although naturally a winger, is apparently totally unsuitable because he now plays wing back?

 

[Evo1883]

Exactly!

So that's Jones, Shipley and Bapaga who used to be wingers that can apparently play there.

But Giles, although naturally a winger, is apparently totally unsuitable because he now plays wing back?

I'm more comfortable playing players in their preferred roles, where they offer the most.. Are You assuming Giles will be a better attacking central midfielder than Allen?

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

This debate is missing the contribution of Magwitch

 

[Evo1883]

I just don't see it I'm sorry

 

[Evo1883]

And BTW, Shipley was never a good winger to begin with, it was obvious had to come central as it clearly wasn't his natural position , didn't have the pace or skill for starters

 

[PVA]

I'm more comfortable playing players in their preferred roles, where they offer the most.. Are You assuming Giles will be a better attacking central midfielder than Allen?

I would rather Giles play LWB than AM.

But, if we need some pace in the last 20 I'd rather bring on Giles than Bapaga or Shipley.