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Sky_Blue_Daz

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Personally I’d shut the schools and universities too , particularly a school environment this time of year colds, flus and bugs get passed around anyway
 

stay_up_skyblues

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What a balls up.
To not combine half term into this equation and plan /time pre emptively is blind and unforgivable

This is the key thing for me. Can’t really be arsed to go into detail but it is a difficult situation to deal with and balancing the spread versus damage to the economy and everything that comes with it is not an enviable position to be in.

BUT... with a further lockdown inevitable, doing a week after half term is beyond a joke and unforgivable. Smacks of having no plan and winging it almost day to day. I mean, Wales actually demonstrated how to do it in real time.

Also, the slides blatantly knocked together 20 minutes before the briefing looked like something my lad came up with in his year 8 IT lesson.
 

wingy

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This is the key thing for me. Can’t really be arsed to go into detail but it is a difficult situation to deal with and balancing the spread versus damage to the economy and everything that comes with it is not an enviable position to be in.

BUT... with a further lockdown inevitable, doing a week after half term is beyond a joke and unforgivable. Smacks of having no plan and winging it almost day to day. I mean, Wales actually demonstrated how to do it in real time.

Also, the slides blatantly knocked together 20 minutes before the briefing looked like something my lad came up with in his year 8 IT lesson.
The cost to the the economy from these measures is £20B a week according to Marr .
Wonder what it was in the tiered approach?
 

chiefdave

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Expect there to be a big spike 7th January
Potentially a scenario where we come out of lockdown on December 2nd as planned with the numbers having dropped back down leading to people thinking its fine to go back out again right when its Christmas party season.

Followed by sending uni students home for a few days and then back to uni to make sure its spread around the country and to the older generations. Could easily see the numbers shoot back up and we'll be back in the same position we are now looking at an imminent lockdown 3.

Don't think it's a particularly far fetched scenario. Certainly something the government will have to put some thought towards avoiding.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Certainly looking like the right decision at the moment.

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Clearly not all about the schools tho....and NI stats are heavily skewed due to big uni outbreaks in derry and Belfast.

Liverpool cases also show a drop off in cases that matches the tier 3 intro. In the region around middle of the month.....and schools didn't shut for HT until the last week of Oct.

Welsh schools have been shut for a fortnight and look at that curve....

Again, Its not all about the schools....
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Clearly not all about the schools tho....and NI stats are heavily skewed due to big uni outbreaks in derry and Belfast.

Liverpool cases also show a drop off in cases that matches the tier 3 intro. In the region around middle of the month.....and schools didn't shut for HT until the last week of Oct.

Welsh schools have been shut for a fortnight and look at that curve....

Again, Its not all about the schools....

If it’s not then let me out of a box and to do my job
 

wingy

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Clearly not all about the schools tho....and NI stats are heavily skewed due to big uni outbreaks in derry and Belfast.

Liverpool cases also show a drop off in cases that matches the tier 3 intro. In the region around middle of the month.....and schools didn't shut for HT until the last week of Oct.

Welsh schools have been shut for a fortnight and look at that curve....

Again, Its not all about the schools....
Not yet they haven't and only a couple of senior school yr groups ar out for the duration .
I think NI May have gone for an extended complete LD inc schoolkids.
 

wingy

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Clearly not all about the schools tho....and NI stats are heavily skewed due to big uni outbreaks in derry and Belfast.

Liverpool cases also show a drop off in cases that matches the tier 3 intro. In the region around middle of the month.....and schools didn't shut for HT until the last week of Oct.

Welsh schools have been shut for a fortnight and look at that curve....

Again, Its not all about the schools....
And yes it does look like Tier 3 has had some effect
Edit :- returned the rate to the level/trajectory it was on at the point of implementation

Not forgetting there was a lag of close to of around 4-5 weeks between scientific advice,then delivery and squabbles over this .
Frankly fucking awful dither and delay in as per , including Burnham whatever his reasoning.
 
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Grendel

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Not yet they haven't and only a couple of senior school yr groups ar out for the duration .
I think NI May have gone for an extended complete LD in MC schoolkids.

Ireland closed for two weeks and England closed for 1 of those weeks and there’s a transmission lag?
 

Grendel

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Not yet they haven't and only a couple of senior school yr groups ar out for the duration .
I think NI May have gone for an extended complete LD inc schoolkids.

Only two year groups are allowed in senior schools in Wales until Nov 9
 

Grendel

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Less agreeable but still better than all of them

Its actually confusing as one article said older years are allowed but I assume that’s wrong. I assume the BBC article is correct which say primary and early years are allowed - I guess the real issue is some children are excluded and it makes no difference as infections have risen
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Its actually confusing as one article said older years are allowed but I assume that’s wrong. I assume the BBC article is correct which say primary and early years are allowed - I guess the real issue is some children are excluded and it makes no difference as infections have risen

Maybe ask yourself why it is that most teachers and the largest union think it should be remote for 3 weeks
 

Grendel

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Maybe ask yourself why it is that most teachers and the largest union think it should be remote for 3 weeks

But the Wales and Ireland examples from Dave’s charts suggest it’s not going to make any real difference?
 

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