Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (82 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Old but classic:
The 10 Most Bizarre Correlations
<b>One of the first things you learn in any statistics class is that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation" target="_blank">correlation</a> doesn't imply causation.</b> Nonetheless, it's fun to consider the causal relationships one could infer from these...
skybluetony176
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You’re probably right but as a parent the most difficult thing during the first lockdown was watching your kids rot. It was absolutely right to send them back but the issue is there’s been no joined up thinking. They could have gone back on reduced hours, the government wasted months not thinking about how to make schools Covid “safe”, they could have shortened the terms and extended half term and Xmas holidays ahead of Xmas etc. So many lost opportunity from a government scarred to govern during a crisis. Everything has been reactive not proactive and we keep paying the price for that and most likely will keep paying because this leopard can’t change it’s spots.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If they go back in then classify the whole school as a bubble, allow lessons to be delivered normally and extend the school day so we are in for fewer days overall. Though as I continue to offer, if any parent of secondary age children would like recorded, interactive lessons free of charge with worksheets they need only ask.
Glad to see you agree it’s the government’s bizarre handling of it all, and not some kind of cockney conspiracy, that’s to blame for this all going to shit. You got there in the end.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Would you want Nick Jr bringing it home?
Ian1779
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At this moment in time schools are the biggest source of infection rates - especially Secondary. Anyone saying that is not true is deluded. 1000 kids missing freely in bubbles of 200+ a time, the mixing as a whole before and after school and all through the evenings and weekends.
Nothing will change on curtailing the spread as long as schools stay open in their current format. So you either move to staggered teaching in school with breaks of time in between, remote learning or you get your testing system set up in place and make it robust.
Nick
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She probably already has or vice versa.
You are beyond parody sometimes
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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They did. With minimal time, resources or support from the government to do so they set up online teaching. Now they want the kids in schools and teachers have to do that again but under distancing protocols etc which makes it very difficult. And that decision wasn't made because it was the correct one but because they wanted people back at work so they needed babysitters so people could work. They've spent months telling everyone it's not being transmitted in schools when the data and just an ounce of commonsense thinking about how kids act tells you it must be and it spreads to other groups from there. It's not being done because it's the right thing to do but because we're slaves to £££.
Along with that they've got no idea what they're exactly teaching for because there's no advice given on exams this year and now they've been asked to put in place a testing regime with no money that billions in govt funding hasn't yet managed to achieve on top of their normal work.
Now I think a greater consideration should be given to longer days and having shorter terms with longer breaks between each allied to lockdown in those periods to contain the spread, but as things have been it's an almost untenable position. If you'd got treated so shabbily and worthlessly by your employer for the same level of pay you'd have already left.
Brighton Sky Blue
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But you want them open?
Nick
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My point is that they keep doing u turns and there's only so many times it can be due to being inept.
If they are going to close them anyway, not much of an issue to finish a couple of days earlier to get a head start for January.
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Deleted member 5849
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You've seen Boris Johnson, the amount of times he can be inept is limitless!
Nick
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Yeah then there's all the highly educated Gimps around him.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The councils wanted them closed early because they can see what most of us can about their big role in transmission. The government threatens to sue them then later goes for ‘Tier 4’. My point is teachers are much better equipped to deliver a short period of remote learning than we were to deliver months of it in March. Get everyone a device and internet over Christmas and deliver it remotely until we have x number of people vaccinated and the cases below a certain threshold.
We are going back into national lockdown in January anyway.
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I still think there was an opportunity to have some kind of campaign anyway, for business and individuals to donate old laptops etc they weren't using / had upgraded over the pandemic. Didn't necessarily have to be government bought everyone a new tablet.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Exactly. It’s outrageous that after all this time we still don’t have everyone covered.
Sky Blue Pete
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Just nonsense about manufacturing being back 100%
David O'Day
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t's what grenners does
jimmyhillsfanclub
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The problem with the closing schools argument is its full of caveats...its based on all the sensible and obvious things that SHOULD have been put in place, but haven't and won't be any time soon.
So the current bleak reality is closing schools in Jan will result in the most deprived becoming more so, the most vulnerable becoming more so, the most hungry becoming more so, the abused and neglected becoming more so all while millions of families are forced further into financial crisis due to the inability to earn.
Whilst it affects everyone, it massively and disproportionately hits those who are barely keeping their heads above as it is.
......it's a shite state of affairs Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world wont make any fucking difference
So the current bleak reality is closing schools in Jan will result in the most deprived becoming more so, the most vulnerable becoming more so, the most hungry becoming more so, the abused and neglected becoming more so all while millions of families are forced further into financial crisis due to the inability to earn.
Whilst it affects everyone, it massively and disproportionately hits those who are barely keeping their heads above as it is.
......it's a shite state of affairs Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world wont make any fucking difference
Sky Blue Pete
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The thing that pissed me off the most this morning was after marr had used the head teachers comments saying the plans were impossible he comes back with most head teachers want the best for their children. Wtf I think all of them do and would know better than him what is and isn’t possible. Just a complete wanker
Brighton Sky Blue
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Maybe it's telling something that the current teachers on this thread don't think we should be in despite very much wanting to be.
clint van damme
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Who knows what the fuck is going on?
Skybluefaz
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We're quickly being banned from multiple countries because of the new strain. Bit rude, we allowed people into the country freely until June didn't we when it first arrived.
fernandopartridge
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Definitely no brain involved
Ian1779
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You are absolutely spot on - what I would say that from a safeguarding/welfare point of view that a lot of schools that have cohorts like this (mine is one of them) are putting on additional things that they can do to mitigate this. We’ve been buying food parcels for vulnerable and FSM kids to take home over the break for example and even for kids to take home at the weekends in some cases. Daily welfare calls and home visits to kids at risk that started in the first lockdown, continued through summer and all term time holidays - and will continue during Xmas break and beyond.
That doesn’t mean that happens everywhere of course - and there will still kids that slip throug the net. These actions are done at local level by schools and their safeguarding, with no guidance, support or funding from government at all. Some schools will face budget deficits this year and next because they have chosen to do this from existing budgets because it’s totally the right thing to do.
Totally inept leadership from the government on this as you’ve said.... and absolutely no surprise to anyone that has a brain.
Brighton Sky Blue
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We ain't looking too hot either chief
Ay but we've never had it under control and impossible when people act like. Idiots like the 1000's last night from London deciding they want to spread it around the whole country, national lockdown again come mid January maybe as strict as the first one no schools no work ect.
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Finished your flounce?