Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (211 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well it’s inevitable it’s going to be impossible to administer in the middle of a crises. We have to hold the Oxford vaccine works and it’s that which holds the key

Removing nationalistic bollocks it probably is the best of the ones available. The question now is one of production capacity and time

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

And fucking work off.

Blame the idiots in government then

 

[Grendel]

Blame the idiots in government then

What’s the alternative other then get volunteers - closing primary schools is unrealistic

 

[shmmeee]

Kier is too busy chasing the Daily Mail readers, who would actually prefer teachers and kids to catch Cov-ID so it’s fair.

Damn the leader of the opposition trying (and so far succeeding) to get his party elected to government.

(I don’t agree with him on schools, but in terms of the job he’s appointed to do you really can’t complain)

 

[hill83]

And fucking work off.

Yeah but under the circumstances it's clearly worth it. Saying that I'm holding my holiday back for the Euros.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What’s the alternative other then get volunteers - closing primary schools is unrealistic

It isn’t a system though is it? Leaving schools to function as medical centres and hoping they can work it out themselves. Secondary schools shouldn’t be open. As said many times the halfway house is unworkable and I still have no idea what I’m supposed to be doing next week

 

[Ian1779]

Damn the leader of the opposition trying (and so far succeeding) to get his party elected to government.

(I don’t agree with him on schools, but in terms of the job he’s appointed to do you really can’t complain)

He’s let schools and education down massively. The one area where he would get universal support pretty much and he’s hung us out to dry.

 

[shmmeee]

"CLAIM" to do that!

No. Do that.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32661-1/fulltext

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Damn the leader of the opposition trying (and so far succeeding) to get his party elected to government.

(I don’t agree with him on schools, but in terms of the job he’s appointed to do you really can’t complain)

He’s doing a good job of losing my vote but then if he persuades people like G will have succeeded in his aims

 

[Brylowes]

The rollout of this needs to be completely removed from the politicians. Leave it to those who know what they are doing and leave the self serving incompetents out of it.

The further it is removed from Government clutches the more chance it has of succeeding.
Trouble is they tend to distance themselves from things they should be central to ‘whilst not being able to leave alone things they should leave to the experts.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The further it is removed from Government clutches the more chance it has of succeeding.
Trouble is they tend to distance themselves from things they should be central to ‘whilst not being able to leave alone things they should leave to the experts.

They want to exploit the vaccine for political capital. If they had any brains they would see that actually backing off would give them a better chance to do so. The most they should do is relay updates to the public each week on the rollout

 

[clint van damme]

Jeez. Just when you thought we’d seen the end of the would you rather live in (insert EU country here) line the direction of travel turns back to it. A sure sign that the government is fucking this up.

As long as everyone else is as shit as us

 

[clint van damme]

They want to exploit the vaccine for political capital. If they had any brains they would see that actually backing off would give them a better chance to do so. The most they should do is relay updates to the public each week on the rollout

The one thing they actually got right was pre ordering shit loads of vaccine, now back off and leave it to the experts

 

[David O'Day]

Who would of thought a vaccination scheme run by Nadhim Zahawi would go so wrong.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Isnt that relying on people not working?

For two weeks. I’ll take a couple of shift times off work or use the volunteer time we get given

 

[Brylowes]

They want to exploit the vaccine for political capital. If they had any brains they would see that actually backing off would give them a better chance to do so. The most they should do is relay updates to the public each week on the rollout

Absolutely, leave well alone and in 6 months time if it’s deemed an overall success, the media will give them the credit anyway.
They’re complete inability to learn from their own mistakes is baffling.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Absolutely, leave well alone and in 6 months time if it’s deemed an overall success, the media will give them the credit anyway.
They’re complete inability to learn from their own mistakes is baffling.

I think even under David Cameron we’d have seen this done better.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Are all these volunteers also DBS checked?

They’d need to be. But it’s a significant undertaking to organise 2000 kids and teachers over 2 weeks. It’s a huge ask that needs significant oversight and logistic skills to run the team. Made harder by it being volunteers initially

Friend whose a head teacher has saved 100k painstakingly over a few years for new buildings and fixtures and he will now have to spend it on this. He’s so sad for the school community

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

And fucking work off.

Yep but if people can’t they can’t

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They’d need to be. But it’s a significant undertaking to organise 2000 kids and teachers over 2 weeks. It’s a huge ask that needs significant oversight and logistic skills to run the team. Made harder by it being volunteers initially

Friend whose a head teacher has saved 100k painstakingly over a few years for new buildings and fixtures and he will now have to spend it on this. He’s so sad for the school community

And then it’s like a small business until the vaccine is available. It’s a big ask

Then I suppose they will complete the vaccinations too

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They’d need to be. But it’s a significant undertaking to organise 2000 kids and teachers over 2 weeks. It’s a huge ask that needs significant oversight and logistic skills to run the team. Made harder by it being volunteers initially

Friend whose a head teacher has saved 100k painstakingly over a few years for new buildings and fixtures and he will now have to spend it on this. He’s so sad for the school community

They don’t test everyone who enters a supermarket, what makes a school any different or more capable?

 

[Brylowes]

I think even under David Cameron we’d have seen this done better.

I think even under David Cameron under anaesthetic, we’d have seen this done better.
And I’m no fan of Cameron.

 

[hill83]

They don’t test everyone who enters a supermarket, what makes a school any different or more capable?

Change it to Tesco then job done.

 

[hill83]

I seem to remember getting a BCG vaccination at school as it goes.

Everyone punching the fuck out of peoples arms the next few days after.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Change it to Tesco then job done.

Haven’t been in one since I was a student

 

[hill83]

Haven’t been in one since I was a student

And there's one reason why it's a better idea doing it in school than supermarkets.

All by yourself.

 

[shmmeee]

He’s doing a good job of losing my vote but then if he persuades people like G will have succeeded in his aims

There are more Gs than BSBs in the British electorate. You win from the centre in any political environment and that gives you capital for policy. Policy before governance is only useful for virtue signalling and right now Labour need to signal towards the right, because their vote on the left is tapped out and geographically clustered.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There are more Gs than BSBs in the British electorate. You win from the centre in any political environment and that gives you capital for policy. Policy before governance is only useful for virtue signalling and right now Labour need to signal towards the right, because their vote on the left is tapped out and geographically clustered.

I know the demographics well enough. Just education being used as collateral damage pisses me off and makes me not want to vote for anyone. With Gen Z looking more conservative millennials are getting fucked from both directions

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just had plans through for next few weeks. Exam groups doing mocks as planned, week commencing 11th I am required to be in school so I can teach everyone remotely-makes sense. School has not received tests yet and has not been told how many they’re getting.

 

[hill83]

Just had plans through for next few weeks. Exam groups doing mocks as planned, week commencing 11th I am required to be in school so I can teach everyone remotely-makes sense. School has not received tests yet and has not been told how many they’re getting.

All joking aside, it's a total rushed shambles.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

All joking aside, it's a total rushed shambles.

If all my teaching is to be remote why get me into school? Pointless

 

[skybluetony176]

Just had plans through for next few weeks. Exam groups doing mocks as planned, week commencing 11th I am required to be in school so I can teach everyone remotely-makes sense. School has not received tests yet and has not been told how many they’re getting.

Just another example of the lack of joined up thinking.

 

[clint van damme]

If all my teaching is to be remote why get me into school? Pointless

Spite. It's one of their two driving motivators.
Embezzling the public purse is the other.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Spite. It's one of their two driving motivators.
Embezzling the public purse is the other.

At least Starmer can win over some Grendels by throwing teachers and schools under the bus. Both parties can piss off when it comes to COVID

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just another example of the lack of joined up thinking.

Williamson said the return was delayed to allow testing of exam groups. My school doesn’t even know how many tests it’s getting never mind received them with instructions on use