Grendel
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The second dose is delayed today it said that both vaccines don’t need to have a second done in 3 weeks but can go to 12 weeks
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The second dose is delayed today it said that both vaccines don’t need to have a second done in 3 weeks but can go to 12 weeks
Brylowes
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This really worries me, since details of the vaccinations were first released, thus revealing the need for a follow up injection to complete one adequate dose, it just throws up an added complication and significantly increases the chances of errors being made.
Given the Government’s record on Covid19 decision making, to hear now that they are contemplating changing tack after having already started administering the vaccine fills me with dread.
The vaccine is our only hope of returning to something like normal this year, hearing Hancock coming out with stuff like this shakes my already brittle confidence to the core.
Please just hold your nerve and roll out the vaccine in the pre-agreed plan.
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I wouldn't fancy pushing it to it's limit, mind. Puts in place room for error, I'd have thought.
clint van damme
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You're right to be concerned given everything that's gone on but I remember Fauci saying that any vaccine that was over 60 percent effective would be enough to halt the virus.
Given that both vaccines do that with one dose this may not be a bad idea.
dutchman
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"CLAIM" to do that!
We'll_live_and_die
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Something half positive for half an hour
Who wants a left handed mug though, or is the image both sides?
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Not sure 60% is enough to restore public confidence mind you.
clint van damme
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Pfizer have now said their vaccine isn't designed to be used in two shots given 12 weeks apart, so much for following the science!
fernandopartridge
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clint van damme
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they're fucking this up as well aren't they - great.
Why should I have expected anything different from the mob that spunked millions on snide PPE from a Turkish T shirt salesman.
Why should I have expected anything different from the mob that spunked millions on snide PPE from a Turkish T shirt salesman.
fernandopartridge
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Hancock is just useless and the civil service has been filled with sycophantic non entities who no longer provide any challenge to ministers
clint van damme
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so it looks to me as though the Astra zeneca vaccine has been approved to be administered 12 weeks apart but Pfizer are saying that they don't know if theirs will be effective with that much of a gap between doses as they never did any tests that exceeded doses been given with more than a 21 day lag.
I wonder if they tell you which one you're getting?!
I wonder if they tell you which one you're getting?!
hill83
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Yeah I read that somewhere yesterday but can't find the link.
Essentially they are saying there is NO evidence it works (as well) giving the second shot after 12 weeks.
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You can have a Daily Mail link!
Questions over Britain's decision to drop two-dose vaccine regimen
Britain's medical regulator is now recommending Covid jabs are given in two doses three months apart, rather than over the intended four-week period, to deal with spiking Covid hospitalisations and cases.
www.dailymail.co.uk
hill83
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You can have a Daily Mail link!
Questions over Britain's decision to drop two-dose vaccine regimen
Britain's medical regulator is now recommending Covid jabs are given in two doses three months apart, rather than over the intended four-week period, to deal with spiking Covid hospitalisations and cases.www.dailymail.co.uk
Skybluefaz
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It's crazy isn't it? Most schools will be open... Hopefully schools will open... We're 10 months into this and they still make the same mistakes.
clint van damme
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remember that Williamson is only in that position because he wont get security clearance for any other brief following his sacking by May, that's where we are.
Brighton Sky Blue
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For those concerned about delayed second jab-I guess fairly good protection for more is overall better than extra protection for fewer.
Sky Blue Pete
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Grendel
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The Biotech vaccine gives protection it seems after one jab within 12 days whereas the Zeneca one is 21 days
the theory is based on the belief booster vaccines work better if the boost is a longer period of time. It seems most get higher effectiveness 6 months apart - which is obviously impossible now as this is a vaccine programme in the middle of the epidemic
Sky Blue Pete
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Just received form from school what an absolutely nightmare!!
On the consent form for the kids it asks the parents for volunteers and what the shifts are and what’s required
The shifts are 8.30-12.30 and 12.15 to 3.15
Tues 5th to Friday 15th
Then possibly they will pay people
They need quality lead / team leader
Registration
Results recorder
Test assistant
Processor and
Cleaner
I’m working full time in what’s deemed a key role in hmrc but I’m gonna do a couple of shifts as we all need to pull together. I hope other parents feel the same
On the consent form for the kids it asks the parents for volunteers and what the shifts are and what’s required
The shifts are 8.30-12.30 and 12.15 to 3.15
Tues 5th to Friday 15th
Then possibly they will pay people
They need quality lead / team leader
Registration
Results recorder
Test assistant
Processor and
Cleaner
I’m working full time in what’s deemed a key role in hmrc but I’m gonna do a couple of shifts as we all need to pull together. I hope other parents feel the same
skybluetony176
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Why aren’t they just sending the kids home with the tests and asking parents to administer the test the next morning before they go into school? Is there a reason for that? Because it sounds like they’re just finding ways of getting people to mix unnecessarily by inviting extra people into schools who may or may not have Covid to mix with a group of people who may or may not have Covid. Am I missing something here? Is there a specific reason why the test has to be administered on the school premises by people from outside your child’s bubble instead of at home just before they leave for school by someone in your child’s bubble and they simply hand it in to the form tutor when they get to school?
Just seems to me that they’re over complicating it while bringing in extra people to mix between bubbles.
(Edit) Just checked and the lateral flow test was approved for self testing in the home just before Xmas. So why are the government insisting it has to happen in school and making children mix with people that they wouldn’t otherwise mix with while that same person will be crossing bubbles within the school. Am I missing something or is this just another example of a lack of joined up thinking from the government.
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skybluetony176
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Was thinking that TBF but then you’d just test the kids who parents don’t take responsibility in the school exposing just them to a third party instead of the whole school.
Brylowes
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This is unbelievable and yet completely predictable,, come Autumn we will likely be looking back at a vaccination programme that resembles a confused fragmented casualty strewn battleground, whilst the virus gathers pace and takes off again.
Another missed opportunity by a completely incompetent government.
We are fucked.
Another missed opportunity by a completely incompetent government.
We are fucked.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s a bloody joke Pete but good on you for pitching in. Total failure of government
Brighton Sky Blue
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The rollout of this needs to be completely removed from the politicians. Leave it to those who know what they are doing and leave the self serving incompetents out of it.
BodicoteSkyBlue
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Are all these volunteers also DBS checked?
chiefdave
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What happened to the communicty mass testing that the governement said was being rolled out in Coventry weeks ago, did that ever happen?
Is there any reason that capacity can't be used for schools rather than hoping parents will do the job? Doesn't this risk leaving schools in poorer areas behind as I'd expect parents at those school would have less capacity to spend time in schools testing.
Is there any reason that capacity can't be used for schools rather than hoping parents will do the job? Doesn't this risk leaving schools in poorer areas behind as I'd expect parents at those school would have less capacity to spend time in schools testing.
Grendel
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Grendel
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skybluetony176
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Jeez. Just when you thought we’d seen the end of the would you rather live in (insert EU country here) line the direction of travel turns back to it. A sure sign that the government is fucking this up.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not great but a consequence of an impractical vaccine for mass rollout