Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (160 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Still not willing to say what needs to be said.

Sir Keir said: "Everybody wants children back in school. There is nobody that would argue with that. Of course that's what we all want.

"It's inevitable more schools will close.

"I don't want to call for the closure of schools tomorrow morning and add to the chaos.

"But we do need to recognise that it is inevitable that more schools will close, and we need a plan in place to deal with it."

That is what needs to be said, as someone has said already closing schools is the lesser of 2 evils. No one in there right mind wants to close schools and damage kids educations but now we need to be pragmatic and have a plan in place to deal with the school closures that will come.

 

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[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Interesting that my adopted city of liverpool's council has called for a national lockdown but has also stated all schools will remain open and supported....

....maybe a reflection of the success in dramatically bringing rates down last time around from 700+ whilst schools were open....

We really need some more data on this new variant.....how much more transmissible is it really.....is this latest surge really down to that or just a combo of peoples covid rule fatigue (ive witnessed loads) plus the consistent govt. mis-management and missed opportunities?

 

[wingy]

Interesting that my adopted city of liverpool's council has called for a national lockdown but has also stated all schools will remain open and supported....

....maybe a reflection of the success in dramatically bringing rates down last time around from 700+ whilst schools were open....

We really need some more data on this new variant.....how much more transmissible is it really.....is this latest surge really down to that or just a combo of peoples covid rule fatigue (ive witnessed loads) plus the consistent govt. mis-management and missed opportunities?

Seems to add around 0.5 to the r rate m.

Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

happy new year https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-chief-medical-officer-chris-whitty-warns-coronavirus-vaccine-shortages-will-last-months-12176673

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

Edit the recently released data and study I believe.

 

[wingy]

Sorry JH this thread on twitter.

 

[Ian1779]

But but he never says again and just agrees with the Government

He’s said fuck all as usual.

EDIT - I’ll amend that. What he said about national restrictions is right actually - but today’s pressing matter is schools and he’s bottled it again.

 

[David O'Day]

He’s said fuck all as usual.

EDIT - I’ll amend that. What he said about national restrictions is right actually - but today’s pressing matter is schools and he’s bottled it again.

How has he bottled it? He's called it spot on. No one wants to close schools and they should remain open if possible but we need a plan to deal with the fact we are going to have to close them down.

 

[Ian1779]

How has he bottled it? He's called it spot on. No one wants to close schools and they should remain open if possible but we need a plan to deal with the fact we are going to have to close them down.

Erm... it’s not fucking possible is it?

No ifs, No buts.....

 

[David O'Day]

Erm... it’s not fucking possible is it?

No ifs, No buts.....

In some places it maybe, no if's no buts

If you can keep some schools open in some areas then you should every fucking day of the week. It's morally wrong not to.

 

[Ian1779]

In some places it maybe, no if's no buts

If you can keep some schools open in some areas then you should every fucking day of the week. It's morally wrong not to.

Which is probably only the Isles of Scilly right now.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In some places it maybe, no if's no buts

If you can keep some schools open in some areas then you should every fucking day of the week. It's morally wrong not to.

Would you send a teenager to a house party of 30 for 6 hours in this climate?

 

[David O'Day]

Which is probably only the Isles of Scilly right now.

No there will be other places where you can keep schools open.

Burnham is right when he says you should allow local councils to make the call.

 

[David O'Day]

Would you send a teenager to a house party of 30 for 6 hours in this climate?

That's a terrible analogy, are the same conditions present in both situations? Is the behaviour of said teenagers going to be the same?

No

 

[David O'Day]

In the end of you can keep schools open you should. I know it is shit and they must be horrible places to work at the moment but as has been said many times it's the lesser of many evils.

 

[Tommo1993]

Won’t be long until the schools themselves make the call, if they’re not already.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That's a terrible analogy, are the same conditions present in both situations? Is the behaviour of said teenagers going to be the same?

No

You haven’t seen what I have.

 

[shmmeee]

Won’t be long until the schools themselves make the call, if they’re not already.

My daughters primary already has. Not enough staff willing to come in to open.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

My daughters primary already has. Not enough staff willing to come in to open.

Is that earlsdon shmmee?

 

[shmmeee]

Is that earlsdon shmmee?

Yep. Got an email about an hour ago.

 

[Ian1779]

Yep. Got an email about an hour ago.

It’s the right call all round.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

This has echoes of the March lockdown. We just need the footballers to refuse to play, and it's deja vu all over again.

 

[shmmeee]

This has echoes of the March lockdown. We just need the footballers to refuse to play, and it's deja vu all over again.

It should echo the March lockdown, the numbers are similar!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This has echoes of the March lockdown. We just need the footballers to refuse to play, and it's deja vu all over again.

Too busy partying

 

[fernandopartridge]

55000 new infections
454 deaths - got to be one of the largest Sunday figures ever.

I’m sure Boris is correct though optimism will get us through this

There were 79k infections by specimen date on 29th Dec as it stands, it's generally accurate after 5 days or so, tomorrow should confirm final number.

It annoys me that after 10 months of this, the number of infections reported on a particular day is still the main figure reported, it is no real use to anybody.

The numbers being reported are wild and completely unsustainable.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I think it will ultimately be taken out of this Gov'ts hands.

It will be common sense from parents, teachers etc.

The first lockdown was like that

 

[fernandopartridge]

But but he never says again and just agrees with the Government

He's said that schools should remain open hasn't he? Because he stupidly came out with that "no ifs, no buts" stuff in the summer

 

[Tommo1993]

Allesley Primary have also decided to stay closed.

Now Moseley. Countrywide now, like flies.

 

[Ian1779]

In the end of you can keep schools open you should. I know it is shit and they must be horrible places to work at the moment but as has been said many times it's the lesser of many evils.

Page 1 of Safeguarding says ‘keeping children safe in education’ - right now it’s not possible to do so.

I know we are arguing about it, but I can totally see both sides here. I don’t want to send my own children based on one being vulnerable and also based on what I’ve physically witnessed myself.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It should echo the March lockdown, the numbers are similar!

So you'd think they'd learn.

 

[Grendel]

lol it’s really not that radical - it’s a service not a machine for profit and many conservative leaning countries have a nationalised railway system

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

lol it’s really not that radical - it’s a service not a machine for profit and many conservative leaning countries have a nationalised railway system

Incredible

 

[Grendel]

Incredible

not really

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

not really

I could have sworn it was you who spoke out against stuff like this in the past unless I’m mistaken.

 

[Grendel]

I could have sworn it was you who spoke out against stuff like this in the past unless I’m mistaken.

I was against the Labour policy of renationalising because it actually did it on the basis of an argument that it would mean profits come back to the economy - a public service doesn’t aim to make profit but oddly provide a service

 

[wingy]

Locally

Recorded Covid-19 cases in Coventry surge

The city's current rate per 100,000 people is the highest since the pandemic began

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Just up the road from me it's between 450-550.

The measure up to the 28th was between 240-250 per 100k across the City.

 

[skybluetony176]

I was against the Labour policy of renationalising because it actually did it on the basis of an argument that it would mean profits come back to the economy - a public service doesn’t aim to make profit but oddly provide a service

Why can’t it do both?