Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (35 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

I think he’s covered everything

 

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[skybluetony176]

Into your last 24 hours Donald. Try and leave the house clean for the new tenants. A loaf of bread and a pint of milk in the fridge might be a nice gesture.

Would anybody really be surprised if he leaves a dirty protest in the presidential bed?

 

[tisza]

I think he’s covered everything

He does do a good rant

 

[clint van damme]

Pardoned Bannon for fleecing his own supporters!
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Pardoned Bannon for fleecing his own supporters!
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?

The pardon system is all very bizarre. Lots of people pointing out he's not the only president to exploit it, but it's not overly democratic!

Seems only Carter pardoning Vietnam draft avoiders is the only one in recent history who's used it half appropriately.

 

[skybluetony176]

Pardoned Bannon for fleecing his own supporters!
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?

Maybe this is what he meant by draining the swamp. The swamp being prisons full of his crook mates.

 

[ajsccfc]

He pardoned Lil Wayne, which means he can't be a racist

 

[tisza]

Lot of drug dealers and fraudsters on the list. Maybe the rumours of 2 million per pardon carry more than a little truth

 

[Sbarcher]

It will be so sad him leaving the White House. Can we still keep the thread going after today?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It will be so sad him leaving the White House. Can we still keep the thread going after today?

Sure he'll pop up again and again!

 

[ajsccfc]

His Cameo account will be up by tomorrow

 

[tisza]

Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or not Makes it easy for Senators to turn on him now

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or not Makes it easy for Senators to turn on him now

Are people overstating Trump's sway with the electorate, anyway? Biden comfortably won the presidency, but Democrats did worse than expected in Senate and Congress elections. Would a more moderate Republicanism have won them the presidency this time?

One thing's for sure, moderate Republicans may as well convict him, now, if he wants to shaft their party, anyway.

 

[tisza]

Are people overstating Trump's sway with the electorate, anyway? Biden comfortably won the presidency, but Democrats did worse than expected in Senate and Congress elections. Would a more moderate Republicanism have won them the presidency this time?

One thing's for sure, moderate Republicans may as well convict him, now, if he wants to shaft their party, anyway.

Not even sure it's about more moderate Republicanism. Local/State Republican parties still putting up election candidates that are to the right wing of Republican politics.
There was a significant anti-Trump vote. It' was his handling of the COVID crisis that has ultimately done for him. Pre-COVID his numbers were strong enough to win again. Economy was stronger and that is nearly always the key issue in US elections.
Republicans will want to act fast to remove Trump from the forefront before next year's Senate elections. Gloves are off now he's no longer "protected by Office" and the shots are going to come thick and fast from many areas.
Entirely plausible Trump supporters could switch allegiance to a candidate with a similar agenda who just expresses it in a more "considered" way.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Entirely plausible Trump supporters could switch allegiance to a candidate with a similar agenda who just expresses it in a more "considered" way.

Unscrupulous and aggressive, Pompeo plans to be the next Trump – but smarter | Simon Tisdall

The secretary of state has laid political booby traps for Biden in a diplomatic onslaught – with the aim of winning the White House

www.theguardian.com

 

[chiefdave]

Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or not Makes it easy for Senators to turn on him now

Isn't that a worse case scenario for the Republicans? He could potentially take a decent chunk of their vote but it will have zero impact on Democat voters.

 

[tisza]

Isn't that a worse case scenario for the Republicans? He could potentially take a decent chunk of their vote but it will have zero impact on Democat voters.

Is there genuine longevity in a 3rd party based on an individual? What is it actually going to be offering that is so different from current Republicanism?

How many would choose Trump over the Republican party if meant the Democrats holding on?

Could impact Democrat vote as there was a significant vote % that moved there because of Trump.

 

[David O'Day]

West Virginia could have a lot of money thrown at it for the next 2 years

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The pardon system is all very bizarre. Lots of people pointing out he's not the only president to exploit it, but it's not overly democratic!

Seems only Carter pardoning Vietnam draft avoiders is the only one in recent history who's used it half appropriately.

Obama also used it to release non violent drug offenders

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

West Virginia could have a lot of money thrown at it for the next 2 years

Joe Manchin is a Republican anyway he may as well formally switch

 

[David O'Day]

Joe Manchin is a Republican anyway he may as well formally switch

no he's not

A lot of his politics is old skool union based democrat pro worker. He is socially conservative like most of the people he represents.

Until 2022 when the dems have a chance at flipping Republicans out of seats in WN and PA and attacking Fletc they need him on side.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

no he's not

A lot of his politics is old skool union based democrat pro worker. He is socially conservative like most of the people he represents.

Until 2022 when the dems have a chance at flipping Republicans out of seats in WN and PA and attacking Fletc they need him on side.

He’s a conservative in basically every respect and takes corporate money quite happily. He argues against healthcare for his own constituents

 

[David O'Day]

He’s a conservative in basically every respect and takes corporate money quite happily. He argues against healthcare for his own constituents

Ok, this is the US version of saying everyone who didn't back Corbyn was a tory.

Manchin is democrat

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ok, this is the US version of saying everyone who didn't back Corbyn was a tory.

Manchin is democrat

Dude he voted with Trump over half of the time during his term. If he voted with the Republicans over half the time and supported the likes of Brett Kavanaugh he may as well switch sides. He’s just recently come out opposing extra relief cheques which people in his state need.

He’s the Liz Kendall of the Democrats

 

[David O'Day]

Dude he voted with Trump over half of the time during his term. If he voted with the Republicans over half the time and supported the likes of Brett Kavanaugh he may as well switch sides. He’s just recently come out opposing extra relief cheques which people in his state need.

He’s the Liz Kendall of the Democrats

He called for my targeted relief over giving everyone no matter needs a cheque.

That is very different to "opposing extra relief cheques"

 

[SBT]

Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or not Makes it easy for Senators to turn on him now

It won’t happen. The Republicans are moving on, and the MAGA crowd will find another candidate to rally behind. Trump has a long history of suggesting he’ll run under this party or that party’s banner, but it’s a long, long time between now and the primary season. He’s tired, isolated, and his pre-presidency business model has been completely scrambled. And without any currency in mainstream media, or even much oxygen on social media (always his two most valuable assets), he’s likely done politically. Time to slink off to to Russia/UAE/Eastern Europe and make some money putting his name on tower blocks instead.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He called for my targeted relief over giving everyone no matter needs a cheque.

That is very different to "opposing extra relief cheques"

He said they don’t need to give more cheques to those who already had them. Dude is an all round conservative

 

[David O'Day]

He said they don’t need to give more cheques to those who already had them. Dude is an all round conservative

Third Stimulus Check Likely With Manchin Wanting to 'Get More Money Out'

If Manchin votes for a third check and no other Senate Democrats break, the party won't need any Republican support to pass the measure.

www.newsweek.com

As I said his position is relief should be targeted those who need it which is very different to what you are saying

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Third Stimulus Check Likely With Manchin Wanting to 'Get More Money Out'

If Manchin votes for a third check and no other Senate Democrats break, the party won't need any Republican support to pass the measure.

www.newsweek.com

As I said his position is relief should be targeted those who need it which is very different to what you are saying

That argument is similar to those who try to oppose free tuition, and it just obstructs aid getting to people faster. If someone voted with the Tories over half the time you’d probably expect them to be a Tory MP, right? Manchin voting with Trump that often means that the D next to his name is largely irrelevant

 

[David O'Day]

That argument is similar to those who try to oppose free tuition, and it just obstructs aid getting to people faster. If someone voted with the Tories over half the time you’d probably expect them to be a Tory MP, right? Manchin voting with Trump that often means that the D next to his name is largely irrelevant

and here comes the whataboutery

He has not opposed additional covid relief

 

[Deleted member 4439]

What a wonderful day, as we wave tara, goodbye and never come back to the orangeman.

 

[MusicDating]

It won’t happen. The Republicans are moving on, and the MAGA crowd will find another candidate to rally behind. Trump has a long history of suggesting he’ll run under this party or that party’s banner, but it’s a long, long time between now and the primary season. He’s tired, isolated, and his pre-presidency business model has been completely scrambled. And without any currency in mainstream media, or even much oxygen on social media (always his two most valuable assets), he’s likely done politically. Time to slink off to to Russia/UAE/Eastern Europe and make some money putting his name on tower blocks instead.

I agree (I think I heard that CNN and Fox didn't even play his final speech, just reported on it). MSM can now cheerfully ignore him and his cult followers will slowly drift away. I don't think there's any chance of him standing again.

 

[Sbarcher]

"See you all again very soon"

 

[tisza]

"See you all again very soon"

From the witness box?

 

[David O'Day]

"See you all again very soon"

His court cases are going to prime time to be fair