skybluetony176
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Would anybody really be surprised if he leaves a dirty protest in the presidential bed?
Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (6 Viewers)
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tisza
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clint van damme
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Pardoned Bannon for fleecing his own supporters!
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?
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The pardon system is all very bizarre. Lots of people pointing out he's not the only president to exploit it, but it's not overly democratic!
Seems only Carter pardoning Vietnam draft avoiders is the only one in recent history who's used it half appropriately.
skybluetony176
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Maybe this is what he meant by draining the swamp. The swamp being prisons full of his crook mates.
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Sure he'll pop up again and again!
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Are people overstating Trump's sway with the electorate, anyway? Biden comfortably won the presidency, but Democrats did worse than expected in Senate and Congress elections. Would a more moderate Republicanism have won them the presidency this time?Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or notMakes it easy for Senators to turn on him now
One thing's for sure, moderate Republicans may as well convict him, now, if he wants to shaft their party, anyway.
tisza
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Not even sure it's about more moderate Republicanism. Local/State Republican parties still putting up election candidates that are to the right wing of Republican politics.
There was a significant anti-Trump vote. It' was his handling of the COVID crisis that has ultimately done for him. Pre-COVID his numbers were strong enough to win again. Economy was stronger and that is nearly always the key issue in US elections.
Republicans will want to act fast to remove Trump from the forefront before next year's Senate elections. Gloves are off now he's no longer "protected by Office" and the shots are going to come thick and fast from many areas.
Entirely plausible Trump supporters could switch allegiance to a candidate with a similar agenda who just expresses it in a more "considered" way.
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Unscrupulous and aggressive, Pompeo plans to be the next Trump – but smarter | Simon Tisdall
The secretary of state has laid political booby traps for Biden in a diplomatic onslaught – with the aim of winning the White House
chiefdave
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Isn't that a worse case scenario for the Republicans? He could potentially take a decent chunk of their vote but it will have zero impact on Democat voters.Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or not
tisza
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Is there genuine longevity in a 3rd party based on an individual? What is it actually going to be offering that is so different from current Republicanism?
How many would choose Trump over the Republican party if meant the Democrats holding on?
Could impact Democrat vote as there was a significant vote % that moved there because of Trump.
David O'Day
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West Virginia could have a lot of money thrown at it for the next 2 years
Brighton Sky Blue
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Obama also used it to release non violent drug offenders
Brighton Sky Blue
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Joe Manchin is a Republican anyway he may as well formally switch
David O'Day
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no he's not
A lot of his politics is old skool union based democrat pro worker. He is socially conservative like most of the people he represents.
Until 2022 when the dems have a chance at flipping Republicans out of seats in WN and PA and attacking Fletc they need him on side.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He’s a conservative in basically every respect and takes corporate money quite happily. He argues against healthcare for his own constituents
David O'Day
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Ok, this is the US version of saying everyone who didn't back Corbyn was a tory.
Manchin is democrat
Brighton Sky Blue
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Dude he voted with Trump over half of the time during his term. If he voted with the Republicans over half the time and supported the likes of Brett Kavanaugh he may as well switch sides. He’s just recently come out opposing extra relief cheques which people in his state need.
He’s the Liz Kendall of the Democrats
David O'Day
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He called for my targeted relief over giving everyone no matter needs a cheque.
That is very different to "opposing extra relief cheques"
Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or not
It won’t happen. The Republicans are moving on, and the MAGA crowd will find another candidate to rally behind. Trump has a long history of suggesting he’ll run under this party or that party’s banner, but it’s a long, long time between now and the primary season. He’s tired, isolated, and his pre-presidency business model has been completely scrambled. And without any currency in mainstream media, or even much oxygen on social media (always his two most valuable assets), he’s likely done politically. Time to slink off to to Russia/UAE/Eastern Europe and make some money putting his name on tower blocks instead.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He said they don’t need to give more cheques to those who already had them. Dude is an all round conservative
David O'Day
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Third Stimulus Check Likely With Manchin Wanting to 'Get More Money Out'
If Manchin votes for a third check and no other Senate Democrats break, the party won't need any Republican support to pass the measure.
www.newsweek.com
As I said his position is relief should be targeted those who need it which is very different to what you are saying
Brighton Sky Blue
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Third Stimulus Check Likely With Manchin Wanting to 'Get More Money Out'
If Manchin votes for a third check and no other Senate Democrats break, the party won't need any Republican support to pass the measure.
As I said his position is relief should be targeted those who need it which is very different to what you are saying
That argument is similar to those who try to oppose free tuition, and it just obstructs aid getting to people faster. If someone voted with the Tories over half the time you’d probably expect them to be a Tory MP, right? Manchin voting with Trump that often means that the D next to his name is largely irrelevant
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What a wonderful day, as we wave tara, goodbye and never come back to the orangeman.
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tisza
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From the witness box?
David O'Day
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His court cases are going to prime time to be fair
Sky_Blue_Daz
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Do you think Donald’s hidden some fish at the back of the radiators and a few massive shits in the bogs