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Philosoraptor

Philosoraptor

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Whitty didn't answer the question of what percentage of protection having the first vaccine actually gives.
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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This isn't very clear at all, and then they wonder why people don't understand the information they are given!

Johnson comes out and says the new variant is linked to higher mortality followed by Vallance saying the data they have from hospitals is that the mortality is the same. There is other unspecified uncertain data that indicates it may increase mortality 3 to 4 per 1,000. Surely that's the sort of thing you check and ensure is correct before the PM starts a press conference with it.
 
jordan210

jordan210

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Having had a look at some figures and others views it appears.

10/1000 60 year old - mortality rate

13-14/1000 60 year olds - mortality rate *new*

So an increase in mortality from 1% to 1.3% or 1.4%.

But I bet the headlines tomorrow will be 40% increase
 
Nick

Nick

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Sidestepped the question about the vaccine working against the "Mutant"

All it takes now is another mutant that isnt bothered by the vaccine, back to this time last year.
 
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wingy

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jordan210 said:
Having had a look at some figures and others views it appears.

10/1000 60 year old - mortality rate

13-14/1000 60 year olds - mortality rate *new*

So an increase in mortality from 1% to 1.3% or 1.4%.

But I bet the headlines tomorrow will be 40% increase
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Vallance just backtracked on it there
 
Nick

Nick

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"Get the levels down so it doesnt take off again"

They really are thick as fuck, they had people going to football matches in London and then on the train FFS. It was no surprise to anybody it "took off".
 
chiefdave

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Does the mortality rate for non-covid respitory deaths go up in the winter?

Have that got data that compares mortality for recent weeks between those with the existing variant and those with the new variant?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Nick said:
"Get the levels down so it doesnt take off again"

They really are thick as fuck, they had people going to football matches in London and then on the train FFS. It was no surprise to anybody it "took off".
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We're at the point where we're going to have to wait for those 9 groups to get two jabs
 
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wingy

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chiefdave said:
Does the mortality rate for non-covid respitory deaths go up in the winter?

Have that got data that compares mortality for recent weeks between those with the existing variant and those with the new variant?
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Apparently the data provided from hospital's does not support this
 
Sky Blue Pete

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wingy

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chiefdave said:
Does the mortality rate for non-covid respitory deaths go up in the winter?

Have that got data that compares mortality for recent weeks between those with the existing variant and those with the new variant?
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You may get an increase just from the fact the system has become overwhelmed I guess,but to reiterate the data from hospital's hasn't suggested this .
But even that needs to be interpreted as treatment has improved between first wave and this.
 
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wingy

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Are they suggesting that the increase is solely down settings outside of the NHS.
Care homes, private dwelling?
Any others?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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David O'Day said:
this is the issue with their messaging, people think you get the full wack straight off the bat

also the headlines are painting the picture the new variant is super deadly as boris fucked the press conference
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Let's see how it goes weeks after enough people have had two jabs. People have to wait for good data rather than demand unreliable data quickly
 
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fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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chiefdave said:
This isn't very clear at all, and then they wonder why people don't understand the information they are given!

Johnson comes out and says the new variant is linked to higher mortality followed by Vallance saying the data they have from hospitals is that the mortality is the same. There is other unspecified uncertain data that indicates it may increase mortality 3 to 4 per 1,000. Surely that's the sort of thing you check and ensure is correct before the PM starts a press conference with it.
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They've got data on 8% of deaths only to make that determination, dreadful fear mongering
 
Great_Expectations

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Update for anyone interested, Day 4 of experiencing symptoms and today I thought I was starting to improve slightly. However, after taking my daughter for a few laps round the garden to try and get her some fresh air/tire her out, I’m shattered and feeling as shit as I did yesterday. My partner is feeling a lot better though and she’s about 3/4 days ahead of me, so hopefully the worst is nearly over.

The kids have got some sort of virus; temperatures, coughing, runny nose and generally napping for longer (not moaning about that one). No idea if that’s a separate virus or some form of mild covid. I’m sure someone who is more read will have a view.

Feeling slightly guilty, after moaning about my Partners Dad being the one to give us Covid (which remains true), he’s been taken to hospital via ambulance this afternoon as he’s struggling to breath.
 
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wingy

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Great_Expectations said:
Update for anyone interested, Day 4 of experiencing symptoms and today I thought I was starting to improve slightly. However, after taking my daughter for a few laps round the garden to try and get her some fresh air/tire her out, I’m shattered and feeling as shit as I did yesterday. My partner is feeling a lot better though and she’s about 3/4 days ahead of me, so hopefully the worst is nearly over.

The kids have got some sort of virus; temperatures, coughing, runny nose and generally napping for longer (not moaning about that one). No idea if that’s a separate virus or some form of mild covid. I’m sure someone who is more read will have a view.

Feeling slightly guilty, after moaning about my Partners Dad being the one to give us Covid (which remains true), he’s been taken to hospital via ambulance this afternoon as he’s struggling to breath.
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Sorry to hear that , dreadful situation .
Hope they get him in right.
 
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