Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (217 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

Even if they are there’s booster shots coming in the autumn/winter which are very easy to make, especially so given this our advances in quick genetic sequencing of new variants. For flu in the past we had to do a bit of guesswork, not now.

And I'm assuming booster shots will only be given to the vulnerable ...as in the flu shots .

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

Keeps changing Dave but presume herd immunity is irrelevant if new variants appear (locally or from abroad)

Ps also, isn’t there a question mark over how long the vaccines last (hence talk about annual boosters) - BSB ?

We don't actually know how long vaccines will work - yet. That's why they're talking boosters, including to combat variants that crop up. To a degree, if you get the world vaccinated, and can suppress transmission, it'll burn itself out without boosters anyway, to a level where it's AOK in the realms of risk.

Just have to crack on with the world. No good us being among the first if other nations can then adapt to big nasty killer Covid variant.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And I'm assuming booster shots will only be given to the vulnerable ...as in the flu shots .

To be honest as it would just be one booster jab needed you could give it to everyone if you were concerned about a particular variant. The Brazilian one is causing carnage over there and I expect more will be made in that country as it’s basically turned into a COVID factory

 

[clint van damme]

And I'm assuming booster shots will only be given to the vulnerable ...as in the flu shots .

@Brighton Sky Blue could bosters be given at the same time as flu jabs?

 

[Evo1883]

@Brighton Sky Blue could bosters be given at the same time as flu jabs?

I can't imagine the cost of a complete population booster shot every year .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Keeps changing Dave but presume herd immunity is irrelevant if new variants appear (locally or from abroad)

Ps also, isn’t there a question mark over how long the vaccines last (hence talk about annual boosters) - BSB ?

There’s only a question over length because we’re collecting data on it in real time.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

@Brighton Sky Blue could bosters be given at the same time as flu jabs?

Research is being done into ‘combi’ jabs as we speak, I’m pretty sure.

 

[shmmeee]

I can't imagine the cost of a complete population booster shot every year .

Significantly less than the cost of another lockdown TBF.

 

[chiefdave]

Found this from Horizon which explains it fairly well.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I can't imagine the cost of a complete population booster shot every year .

Ultimately depends how risky it is to have the rest of the population able to pass something on. The ultimate aim is to get your Cov-sip that combats the milder variants - I long for the day that you feel you have a spot of Covid, you pop into Boots for the remedy!

 

[clint van damme]

I can't imagine the cost of a complete population booster shot every year .

Expensive, but how expensive are spikes in hospitalizations and lock downs?
But as the vulnerable get annual flu jabs was wondering if they can get a covid booster while they're there. Might cut the costs down if feasible.

 

[Evo1883]

Significantly less than the cost of another lockdown TBF.

True , however is the risk of death enough below a certain age to even do it every year ? Otherwise this is a forever thing or atleast a foreseeable future thing

Example 40% of flu hospital admissions every year are children under 15 ...they dont however get jabbed every year without an underlying issue

 

[covmark]

To be honest as it would just be one booster jab needed you could give it to everyone if you were concerned about a particular variant. The Brazilian one is causing carnage over there and I expect more will be made in that country as it’s basically turned into a COVID factory

Yeah, I read somewhere the other day, I think it was a scientist that said it. Brazil poses a significant risk to global health, the way it's going over there.

Bolsanaro is a complete nutjob.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ultimately depends how risky it is to have the rest of the population able to pass something on. The ultimate aim is to get your Cov-sip that combats the milder variants - I long for the day that you feel you have a spot of Covid, you pop into Boots for the remedy!

Don’t think that’ll happen as this bugger is infectious before symptoms arrive, which is most atypical.

 

[clint van damme]

Yeah, I read somewhere the other day, I think it was a scientist that said it. Brazil poses a significant risk to global health, the way it's going over there.

Bolsanaro is a complete nutjob.

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And I always thought he'd fuck the world up by destroying the Amazonian rain forests

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, I read somewhere the other day, I think it was a scientist that said it. Brazil poses a significant risk to global health, the way it's going over there.

Bolsanaro is a complete nutjob.

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He will fingers crossed be gone at election time, he’s basically public enemy number one.

 

[CCFCSteve]

He will fingers crossed be gone at election time, he’s basically public enemy number one.

Off topic but there’s a great doc (Netflix) about his rise to power, Edge of Democracy (or something like that). Worth a watch

 

[shmmeee]

True , however is the risk of death enough below a certain age to even do it every year ? Otherwise this is a forever thing or atleast a foreseeable future thing

Example 40% of flu hospital admissions every year are children under 15 ...they dont however get jabbed every year without an underlying issue

Isn’t that survivorship bias though? We vaccinate the vulnerable for flu as a matter of course so the ones that end up in hospital are those we don’t vaccinate.

We’ve got a vaccination infrastructure already going, the cost is comparatively tiny for the vaccine doses (£2/person) I don’t see an issue.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Second doses really gathering pace now, good news is that as we'd stockpiled the second doses they'll crack on right throughout the month. Hopefully Moderna arrives a bit sooner than anticipated.

 

[clint van damme]

8 games to go, in 20th, supposedly decent last 8 games, team in 22nd with 3 games in hand but fixture congestion.
Who wouldn't have taken it at the start?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

8 games to go, in 20th, supposedly decent last 8 games, team in 22nd with 3 games in hand but fixture congestion.
Who wouldn't have taken it at the start?

I think the team needs a second dose pronto

 

[fernandopartridge]

Vaccine passports for international travel is fine.

Vaccine passports for everyday life is not.

International travel is everyday life

 

[clint van damme]

I think the team needs a second dose pronto

fuck knows how that ended up on this thread!

 

[hill83]

International travel is everyday life

No it isn't it's once a year to Benidorm to smash the back out of it OI OI

 

[Evo1883]

fuck knows how that ended up on this thread!

You were thinking about awful things and you couldn't distinguish between covid 19 and todays performance?

 

[CCFCSteve]

You were thinking about awful things and you couldn't distinguish between covid 19 and todays performance?

I said to a couple of mates we looked like half our team had Covid first half

 

[fernandopartridge]

No it isn't it's once a year to Benidorm to smash the back out of it OI OI

Twice

 

[hill83]

Twice

Swim back m8

 

[CCFCSteve]

Twice

Sticky Vicky once a year is enough for anyone

 

[Deleted member 5849]

fuck knows how that ended up on this thread!

Doesn't everything...?

 

[Evo1883]

Is this real ?

Edit ...yes it is bbc reported on it too


Need to get these vaccines done quick before the country explodes

 

[clint van damme]

But we're back playing 5 a side? Bizarre.

 

[SBT]

Played 11-a-side yesterday which was great. Not especially good for my health, but only because I can barely move today.

I don’t know why there’s so much hand-wringing over outdoor exercise which is about as safe as it gets. Indoor stuff and gyms is a different story of course, but there should be very few restrictions on outdoor sport right now, and govt messages like the one above aren’t helpful at all.

 

[Evo1883]

But we're back playing 5 a side? Bizarre.

And yet my daughter trains in a group of 12 .. very strange

 

[chiefdave]

It’s organised sport that’s permitted isn’t it? Presumably on the basis that the organisation overseeing it has COVID protocols in place.