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[Brighton Sky Blue]

well you think letter box is - it isn’t and it’s to create debate

I take it that if Mr Corbyn penned a piece in the Guardian comparing Jews to hot cross buns you’d make no comment

 

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[Evo1883]

If people call Muslims ‘letterboxes’ in school we suspend them

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I take it that if Mr Corbyn penned a piece in the Guardian comparing Jews to hot cross buns you’d make no comment

Have you not got the memo we are calling or MP's and former MP's by their full name, so that is Jeremy Bernard Corbyn to you.

 

[Grendel]

Is the term "Pickaninny Watermelon Smiles" racist?

Yes that’s why he said it. He was projected it as thoughts of the supreme white leader Anthony Charles Lynton Blair not his own - read the whole article and that becomes clear

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well funnily enough if someone called a Muslim in my class a letterbox or a burglar and I did nothing I’d probably get hauled up in front of senior management

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Yes that’s why he said it. He was projected it as thoughts of the supreme white leader Anthony Charles Lynton Blair not his own - read the whole article and that becomes clear

So is that you admitting that Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson has made racist comments in the past?

 

[Evo1883]

Well funnily enough if someone called a Muslim in my class a letterbox or a burglar and I did nothing I’d probably get hauled up in front of senior management

That's the correct answer

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That's the correct answer

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[Evo1883]

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Suspended because senior management demand it not because its the correct thing to do .

Education not punishment at such a young age

 

[Evo1883]

Kids used to get suspended for lobbing chairs at teachers heads because they were a genuine threat to the teachers safety .

Not because they said a few silly words

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Kids used to get suspended for lobbing chairs at teachers heads because they were a genuine threat to the teachers safety .

Not because they said a few silly words

Hypothetically, what should they do if they used the N word, or called someone a P a k i?

 

[Evo1883]

Hypothetically, what should they do if they used the N word, or called someone a P a k i?

I don't know ..apologise , have it discussed with them why it's so offensive to some people and why they shouldn't say it ... phone their parents and discuss the situation .

What does suspending them achieve
When I used to get suspended I never suddenly turned into an angel

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I don't know ..apologise , have it discussed with them why it's so offensive to some people and why they shouldn't say it ... phone their parents and discuss the situation .

What does suspending them achieve
When I used to get suspended I never suddenly turned into an angel

Welcome to the authoritarian libertarate.

 

[hill83]

Hypothetically, what should they do if they used the N word, or called someone a P a k i?

Very silly words indeed

 

[Evo1883]

Grown adults , they are at a point where they should know better .

Kids are kids , they do things that very rarely represent the person they will eventually become, they make mistakes without fully understanding the harm caused .

Educate not punish

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Grown adults , they are at a point where they should know better .

Kids are kids , they do things that very rarely represent the person they will eventually become, they make mistakes without fully understanding the harm caused .

Educate not punish

What age do you draw the line? At 16 I would have thought that the person would know whats right and whats not.

 

[Evo1883]

What age do you draw the line? At 16 I would have thought that the person would know whats right and whats not.

At 16 , we trial most people as minors for similar reasons .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Suspended because senior management demand it not because its the correct thing to do .

Education not punishment at such a young age

Grown adults , they are at a point where they should know better .

Kids are kids , they do things that very rarely represent the person they will eventually become, they make mistakes without fully understanding the harm caused .

Educate not punish

You either nip it in the bud or you let them go down an unfortunate road. I have had more n-bombs to deal with than you might think and teenager or not I don’t want racist twats in my classroom

 

[Evo1883]

You either nip it in the bud or you let them go down an unfortunate road. I have had more n-bombs to deal with than you might think and teenager or not I don’t want racist twats in my classroom

Like I said ..suspensions never nipped me in the bud , I carried on being a stupid little boy ... it didn't work

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Like I said ..suspensions never nipped me in the bud , I carried on being a stupid little boy ... it didn't work

You probably weren’t calling people the n word several times a lesson

 

[Evo1883]

You probably weren’t calling people the n word several times a lesson

No , that's not the argument .

Besides , once their suspension is up , aren't they back in the classroom anyway ?

Wouldn't it be easier to "educate" them

Clearly suspensions aren't working

 

[Evo1883]

Anyway where the fuck do you work

KKK high ?

 

[skybluetony176]

I take it that if Mr Corbyn penned a piece in the Guardian comparing Jews to hot cross buns you’d make no comment

Didn’t he say that Jews have hook noses and control the media? No. Wait. That was Boris again.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Didn’t he say that Jews have hook noses and control the media? No. Wait. That was Boris again.

So, even-handed then. That's a good trait in a leader.

 

[Evo1883]

I've just spoke to my daughter ... at their school if a kid is racist or homophobic , they spend time at school afterwards "learning " and parents are informed

As a first step

She also said it doesn't happen alot in her year .

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I've just spoke to my daughter ... at their school if a kid is racist or homophobic , they spend time at at school afterwards "learning " .
As a first step

The fact thats the "first step" and not the only step probably shows that it doesn't work either.

 

[stupot07]

Johnsons comments were racist, whatever context they were in.

1 rule for Boris, another for everyone else. Sums up his life really.

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[Evo1883]

The fact thats the "first step" and not the only step probably shows that it doesn't work either.

Well I think it does , as she can't give me an example of any children In her year being suspended for racism

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Anyway where the fuck do you work

KKK high ?

This was just at a secondary in Coventry with a high % of African and Caribbean students on the roll. It’s not as though we don’t attempt to educate on racism but I wouldn’t apologise for zero tolerance

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Johnsons comments were racist, whatever context they were in.

1 rule for Boris, another for everyone else. Sums up his life really.

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Nope, no evidence they were racist.

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another

 

[Evo1883]

This was just at a secondary in Coventry with a high % of African and Caribbean students on the roll. It’s not as though we don’t attempt to educate on racism but I wouldn’t apologise for zero tolerance

To be fair, there isn't any school in coventry that I go past that doesn't appear to be very mixed in race these days .

I'm trying to make this sound like I'm not Jimmy Saville by going past schools but due to the nature of my job I'm constantly going past schools

Sound awful ffs

 

[PVA]

'it's ok that he made disparaging remarks about Muslims because it wasn't technically racist'

The Tory Defence Force are really clutching at straws here.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

 

[Evo1883]

I'd actually say that too

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I'd actually say that too

No you wouldn't, you'd say this