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David O'Day

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No wonder Dom likes Boris lad, they are both round shirkers
 

CCFCSteve

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I'm sorry Steve you seem a decent bloke, but how on earth can the criticism of Johnson be over the top when tens of thousands of people died unnecessarily? The criticism is not over the top - it's not strong enough!

This is not about a few little errors. A few slight cock ups.

Tens of thousands of people died unnecessarily.

That cannot be understated. He literally has blood on his hands.

I’m saying there’s stuff that is fair, valid and important and stuff that’s thrown around that’s OTT. The stuff thats unwarranted then detracts from the more serious valid issues

Ps always said, the care home situation is, for me, the biggest issue and I’ll be interested to see what Hancock comes up with in a couple of weeks
 
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Deflector shields set to maximum Captain.

You think Hislop is trying to deflect? Not his style, and not his political interest. Nor is he excusing the mistakes made by the Johnson government. He is, however, calling out Cumming's absolute bullshit. Cumming is not only a conceited twat, but a liar.

He's already yesterday's news, well until Gove gets in.
 

Ian1779

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You think Hislop is trying to deflect? Not his style, and not his political interest. Nor is he excusing the mistakes made by the Johnson government. He is, however, calling out Cumming's absolute bullshit. Cumming is not only a conceited twat, but a liar.

He's already yesterday's news, well until Gove gets in.
Whether Cummings is a liar or not is immaterial, there should be accountability for Hancock, Gove, Johnson and all the other cronies in the Cabinet. However we all know there will be none, and that useless sock puppet Starmer will say something meaningless too.
 
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Whether Cummings is a liar or not is immaterial, there should be accountability for Hancock, Gove, Johnson and all the other cronies in the Cabinet. However we all know there will be none, and that useless sock puppet Starmer will say something meaningless too.

I essentially agree, and the inquiry should be kicked off now. But I repeat, Cummings has told us nothing that we didn't already know, other than learning of his hilarious hatred of Hancock. Cummings couldn't have discredited himself more if he'd tried.
 

Grendel

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I essentially agree, and the inquiry should be kicked off now. But I repeat, Cummings has told us nothing that we didn't already know, other than learning of his hilarious hatred of Hancock. Cummings couldn't have discredited himself more if he'd tried.

He looked totally unhinged
 
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He looked totally unhinged

To state the obvious, that's because he actually is - you'd know this if you met him/had dealings with him.

And he's oh so cool / cooky / unconventional that he'll be wearing that baseball cap and his shirt outside of his arse trousers even when he's pissing himself in a care home.
 

Grendel

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To state the obvious, that's because he actually is - you'd know this if you met him/had dealings with him.

And he's oh so cool / cooky / unconventional that he'll be wearing that baseball cap and his shirt outside of his arse trousers even when he's pissing himself in a care home.

The biggest question really for Johnson is why he even employed him. I suspect Campbell was in some respects worse but at least he had some kind of political vision and gravitas

This guy is just a weak willed sociopath- imagine him even existing in Thatchers day. The likes of Lawson and Tebbit would have met him in a corridor and kicked the fuck out of him. It shows how poor politics now is that freaks like him are even employed in senior positions
 

shmmeee

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The biggest question really for Johnson is why he even employed him. I suspect Campbell was in some respects worse but at least he had some kind of political vision and gravitas

This guy is just a weak willed sociopath- imagine him even existing in Thatchers day. The likes of Lawson and Tebbit would have met him in a corridor and kicked the fuck out of him. It shows how poor politics now is that freaks like him are even employed in senior positions

At least you two agree on one thing.
 

Philosoraptor

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I see a 4th CLP has passed a vote of no confidence in Keir Starmer with other constituencies organising votes.

I don't think he will be the leader come September.

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PVA

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Would be a shame he hasn’t had a chance

Yep it makes zero odds who is LOTO right now. Starmer, Corbyn, Mr Blobby. Doesn't matter.

Johnson and the government are teflon right now as we have seen with the shit they are getting away with. Brexit and vaccine bounce.

It needs a few years for it all to unravel and for reality to bite the working class. Then is the time for the LOTO to go on the attack, not now.
 

Grendel

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Nah , the momentum / Blue rinse activist type don't want him so basically he's got no chance .

Labour go back further to the left it's a tory wet dream

Get Vicky Pollard as leader dear old Ange is a dream ticket
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The biggest question really for Johnson is why he even employed him. I suspect Campbell was in some respects worse but at least he had some kind of political vision and gravitas

This guy is just a weak willed sociopath- imagine him even existing in Thatchers day. The likes of Lawson and Tebbit would have met him in a corridor and kicked the fuck out of him. It shows how poor politics now is that freaks like him are even employed in senior positions

Which is a point Cummings made. He said it was madness he was given such a prominent position. And until he got sidelined for Princess Pushy and decided to detonate the explosives a lot of people knew, or at least heavily suspected were there, you were hardly saying how shit he was. Now he's bashing the Tories of course he's just another nut.

For what it's worth I think, and also have done, that he's a chancer who had enough dirt on people to shut them up for a fair while. Weird thing is some of the things he said I already suspected, yet now he's said them I'm questioning whether it's true. That's how little credibility I think he has. But someone it's still way more than the likes of Gove, hancock and esp Johnson.
 

Sick Boy

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I essentially agree, and the inquiry should be kicked off now. But I repeat, Cummings has told us nothing that we didn't already know, other than learning of his hilarious hatred of Hancock. Cummings couldn't have discredited himself more if he'd tried.
Cumming is just as bad as Johnson, Hancock and co.
 

Sick Boy

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The biggest question really for Johnson is why he even employed him. I suspect Campbell was in some respects worse but at least he had some kind of political vision and gravitas

This guy is just a weak willed sociopath- imagine him even existing in Thatchers day. The likes of Lawson and Tebbit would have met him in a corridor and kicked the fuck out of him. It shows how poor politics now is that freaks like him are even employed in senior positions
You’ve said it yourself, it’s a reflection of how poor politics is, including having someone like Johnson as PM.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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You’ve said it yourself, it’s a reflection of how poor politics is, including having someone like Johnson as PM.

Johnson should be in the dock for gross negligence and outrageous corruption on his watch. Instead he will probably get 600 seats in 2024. There should be a penalty for incompetence not a great reward
 

Grendel

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Johnson should be in the dock for gross negligence and outrageous corruption on his watch. Instead he will probably get 600 seats in 2024. There should be a penalty for incompetence not a great reward

This sort of empty rhetoric is just nonsense
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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This sort of empty rhetoric is just nonsense

It isn’t empty rhetoric. A decade of incompetent governance was rewarded with a bumper majority because a clown kept repeating a 3 word slogan. When the clown gets in and allows 130,000 to die because of his own incompetence and allows friends of his party to raid the public purse during a pandemic, his numbers go even higher. Then you have disastrous appointments like Williamson and Hancock whose continued employment defies belief
 

Grendel

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You’ve said it yourself, it’s a reflection of how poor politics is, including having someone like Johnson as PM.

The role of a PM these days I’d say makes him a good choice which is why he’s tonking Starmer in the polls. Clearly he will learn a lesson over this.
 

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