Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (122 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Why is Gove talking about extending furlough past September?

Even if we don't open up on 21 June surely by September pretty much everyone should have had one jab, think if we kept to the original timetable and 12 week gap (and we seem to be ahead and shortening the gap) everyone was double jabbed by mid-October.

What are they expecting to still be closed after that?

Aren’t France and Germany looking to do the same? Why object? Sturgeon is demanding it isn’t she?

 

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The circus continues.

Doing it on purpose to put people off holidays.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Why is Gove talking about extending furlough past September?

Even if we don't open up on 21 June surely by September pretty much everyone should have had one jab, think if we kept to the original timetable and 12 week gap (and we seem to be ahead and shortening the gap) everyone was double jabbed by mid-October.

What are they expecting to still be closed after that?

Germany has done it as it provides a bit more business certainty. There won't be an overnight return to full business activity so at least tapering the scheme is a good idea.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The circus continues.

Doing it on purpose to put people off holidays.

Looks like it was removed solely to allow for fans to attend the CL final

 

[baldy]

No she wasn’t she was pushing anti vax nonsense about “it’s not a vaccine” (yes it is), “you can still catch it” (no shit, like every vaccine ever it’s not 100% effective). It’s just conspiracy drivel mate.

There’s a reason it’s fucking jumped up weather girls shouting this crap and not actual people involved in research and medicine.

I meant what she said about death & recovery rates

 

[fernandopartridge]

My local vaccination centre put a post on Facebook, 116 people have not turned up for their second jab today

 

[chiefdave]

My local vaccination centre put a post on Facebook, 116 people have not turned up for their second jab today

I had mine done when the doctors phoned up and said get here now and you can have one. They had loads left at the end of the day from people who hadn't turned up.

 

[Nick]

My local vaccination centre put a post on Facebook, 116 people have not turned up for their second jab today

Pricks. Literally.

 

[SBT]

The circus continues.

Doing it on purpose to put people off holidays.

Putting people off holidays is probably a good thing in terms of making sure we open on June 21 though, right? Not great for the travel sector and various economies in the Med, I guess.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Putting people off holidays is probably a good thing in terms of making sure we open on June 21 though, right? Not great for the travel sector and various economies in the Med, I guess.

I also think it will cause a backlash from people that have been law-abiding so far. Trying to stop them from having a holiday two years in a row is not going to go down well. The naughty list bingo is a joke too.

Also, why would it stop us opening up on June 21st? There is no evidence to suggest people that have been going on holiday to Portugal over the last few weeks have made things worse.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes he did:View attachment 20356

So why did he also say that extra time had to be compulsory for the children so that they wouldn't just ignore the offer?

 

[SBT]

I also think it will cause a backlash from people that have been law-abiding so far. Trying to stop them from having a holiday two years in a row is not going to go down well. The naughty list bingo is a joke too.

Also, why would it stop us opening up on June 21st? There is no evidence to suggest people that have been going on holiday to Portugal over the last few weeks have made things worse.

So they've moved it off the green list for no reason, then? If that were true, I'd question it as well but I'm not sure I believe that. I thought you were really worried about the risk from incoming flights?

 

[Evo1883]

OK look .

I want to book a holiday for next year , I'm really not letting it lie with my missus .

Honest opinions, do you think it's a good idea to book for summer 2022
Or do we recon the teenage mutant ninja turtle varient might be spreading like wildfire

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

OK look .

I want to book a holiday for next year , I'm really not letting it lie with my missus .

Honest opinions, do you think it's a good idea to book for summer 2022
Or do we recon the teenage mutant ninja turtle varient might be spreading like wildfire

Yes but I would avoid package holidays for ease of refunds just in case.

 

[CCFCSteve]

OK look .

I want to book a holiday for next year , I'm really not letting it lie with my missus .

Honest opinions, do you think it's a good idea to book for summer 2022
Or do we recon the teenage mutant ninja turtle varient might be spreading like wildfire

Is she still looking at you like you’ve flung shit in her hair ?!! (favourite comment of the week )

Ps can’t see how the travel industry could survive if we aren’t operating at decent levels next year. As BSB indicates check about insurance, refunds etc

 

[David O'Day]

So they've moved it off the green list for no reason, then? If that were true, I'd question it as well but I'm not sure I believe that. I thought you were really worried about the risk from incoming flights?

Isn't it because the infection rate has doubled since the last review?

 

[Evo1883]

Fuck sake gutted that Afghanistan is on the red list

 

[fernandopartridge]

I also think it will cause a backlash from people that have been law-abiding so far. Trying to stop them from having a holiday two years in a row is not going to go down well. The naughty list bingo is a joke too.

Also, why would it stop us opening up on June 21st? There is no evidence to suggest people that have been going on holiday to Portugal over the last few weeks have made things worse.

Nobody is being stopped from going on holiday, there are just requirements to isolate on return or show a negative test.

FWIW the government should be funding PCR tests for the 'test to release' scheme. They've spent enough building up the private test labs to get something back for it.

 

[fernandopartridge]

OK look .

I want to book a holiday for next year , I'm really not letting it lie with my missus .

Honest opinions, do you think it's a good idea to book for summer 2022
Or do we recon the teenage mutant ninja turtle varient might be spreading like wildfire

I've booked for May next year, Portugal funnily enough

 

[clint van damme]

OK look .

I want to book a holiday for next year , I'm really not letting it lie with my missus .

Honest opinions, do you think it's a good idea to book for summer 2022
Or do we recon the teenage mutant ninja turtle varient might be spreading like wildfire

I'd hold on.
I can't think of any advantage of booking now but I can think of a lot potential drawbacks.

 

[Evo1883]

I'd hold on.
I can't think of any advantage of booking now but I can think of a lot potential drawbacks.

You're like my missus , except without the great chebs

 

[clint van damme]

You're like my missus , except without the great chebs

And I'm not married to an arsehole

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So they've moved it off the green list for no reason, then? If that were true, I'd question it as well but I'm not sure I believe that. I thought you were really worried about the risk from incoming flights?

Nope. You are twisting my words, but again you know it.

Please find me data that shows how dangerous Portugal has become. I'll wait.

You'll also find my stance on banning flights has not been on places that are safe, but the ones that we should have moved to have banned earlier on. China, India, etc.

 

[Grendel]

Nope. You are twisting my words, but again you know it.

Please find me data that shows how dangerous Portugal has become. I'll wait.

You'll also find my stance on banning flights has not been on places that are safe, but the ones that we should have moved to have banned earlier on. China, India, etc.

Shapps seems to be blaming the Nepal variant - are they many flights between Nepal and Portugal?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Nobody is being stopped from going on holiday, there are just requirements to isolate on return or show a negative test.

FWIW the government should be funding PCR tests for the 'test to release' scheme. They've spent enough building up the private test labs to get something back for it.

It's more about them putting one 'holiday' country on the safe list, before then taking it off again straight away. Travel was lifted about two weeks ago on May 17th. The data doesn't really show any dangerous correlation, but there will be people now put off booking holidays because they'll deem it too much of a risk thanks to this stunt.

The penny is dropping for many, but not everyone it seems.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Shapps seems to be blaming the Nepal variant - are they many flights between Nepal and Portugal?

The Nepal variant that the WHO said didn't even exist yesterday?

They are all fucking clowns.

 

[David O'Day]

In the interests of truth the WHO didn't sauy there wasn't a new "Nepal Variant" they said they weren't aware of one which is a different thing.

 

[shmmeee]

So why did he also say that extra time had to be compulsory for the children so that they wouldn't just ignore the offer?

The two aren’t incompatible. There are teachers who would accept it and they could hire supply/tutors in. Also it’s not all kids if you read the proposal, those who don’t need catchup might be doing music or sports. A lot of provision could have been made through existing after school activities in those areas, AFAIK for PE after school clubs are included in their directed time already but could be wrong there.

 

[Evo1883]

Shapps after whacking portugal to Amber

 

[fernandopartridge]

Jesus christ, this is depressing

 

[Evo1883]

Jesus christ, this is depressing

OK
Tell me what it says in tile hill language please

 

[SBT]

Nope. You are twisting my words, but again you know it.

Please find me data that shows how dangerous Portugal has become. I'll wait.

You'll also find my stance on banning flights has not been on places that are safe, but the ones that we should have moved to have banned earlier on. China, India, etc.

Sorry to keep you waiting. The data cited by the government is here if you want to look: Portugal moved to amber list to guard public health against variants of concern following first traffic light review

Maybe that's not good enough for you, and that's fine. But your stance on flights is going to get undermined pretty quickly if you keep looking the other way when it's a place where you might want to go on holiday involved.

 

[clint van damme]

OK
Tell me what it says in tile hill language please

Its looking like This Indian variant is more dangerous than previous variants.

 

[David O'Day]

 

[hill83]

OK
Tell me what it says in tile hill language please

“Let’s go and cause trouble in eastern green”