The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (187 Viewers)

[rondog1973]

They simply don't get it do they?

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

They simply don't get it do they?

Posh voice though so con+10

 

[shmmeee]

Corbyn had cosied up to terrorist organisations so he’d never had got in in my opinion.

I mean, I hate to labour a point, but a terrorist literally murdered a sitting MP during the Brexit campaign, because she was anti-Brexit, so I’m guessing people’s aversion to terrorism isn’t quite as absolute as you suggest.

 

[Grendel]

I mean, I hate to labour a point, but a terrorist literally murdered a sitting MP during the Brexit campaign, because she was anti-Brexit, so I’m guessing people’s aversion to terrorism isn’t quite as absolute as you suggest.

By your own argument sitting MP's have been murdered by an organisation the ex leader of the labour party and his shadow chancellor fully endorsed - the shadow chancellor even going as far as to say the only regret was Thatcher was not killed in the Brighton bombings

 

[shmmeee]

By your own argument sitting MP's have been murdered by an organisation the ex leader of the labour party and his shadow chancellor fully endorsed - the shadow chancellor even going as far as to say the only regret was Thatcher was not killed in the Brighton bombings

Yeah. So you get the point then. Although obviously one happened in recent history and one 30 years ago.

Point is everyone’s against terrorism until their side does it then it’s not so bad.

So spare me the moral outrage. Personally I think both are cunts.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

By your own argument sitting MP's have been murdered by an organisation the ex leader of the labour party and his shadow chancellor fully endorsed - the shadow chancellor even going as far as to say the only regret was Thatcher was not killed in the Brighton bombings

The current PM said ‘let the bodies pile high’, I take it you morally object to his premiership?

 

[shmmeee]

The current PM said ‘let the bodies pile high’, I take it you morally object to his premiership?

Also, you know, the ties to the Russians, the anti semitism, the arranging a journalist to get beaten up.

 

[PVA]

And the Islamophobia. Oh wait, that's a guaranteed vote winner for Grendel.

 

[clint van damme]

Fight club mentality.

Come on mate, you know the first rule.......

 

[COV]

Also, you know, the ties to the Russians, the anti semitism, the arranging a journalist to get beaten up.

bit out of my area here but banging on about Corbyn- wasn't Thatcher close with Pinochet, who was responsible for 30,000 instances of torture and murder, and had 300 human rights crimes piled up against him when he died? Didn't Thatcher arrange to put him up & send him booze or something because he helped in the Falklands War

Just goes to show- people think its all very unseemly and nasty until it suits them

 

[fernandopartridge]

Through his own stupidity. Hard to have sympathy.

Remember, he knew what he voted for and he won so I should get over it

It isn't really about Brexit it's about an entire economy built around extracting maximu profit which leads to stagnant or decreased pay which leads to price freezes which leads to more driving down costs ie pay.

 

[skybluetony176]

Also, you know, the ties to the Russians, the anti semitism, the arranging a journalist to get beaten up.

Supplying of arms to a dictatorship that’s using them illegally in Yemen.

 

[Grendel]

bit out of my area here but banging on about Corbyn- wasn't Thatcher close with Pinochet, who was responsible for 30,000 instances of torture and murder, and had 300 human rights crimes piled up against him when he died? Didn't Thatcher arrange to put him up & send him booze or something because he helped in the Falklands War

Just goes to show- people think its all very unseemly and nasty until it suits them

I don’t think she said “what’s 5 dead Labour MPs - a start” or thank an organisation for murdering U.K. citizens on their own soil. As we know Corbyn supports murderers and terrorists everywhere - supporting murder on your own soil is all down to him and his mate McDonnell - odd your “recollection” seems clearly on a Chilean dictator than Mr Mcguiness and Mr Adams

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Supplying of arms to a dictatorship that’s using them illegally in Yemen.

Pre-emptive flag you have there Tone

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t think she said “what’s 5 dead Labour MPs - a start” or thank an organisation for murdering U.K. citizens on their own soil. As we know Corbyn supports murderers and terrorists everywhere - supporting murder on your own soil is all down to him and his mate McDonnell - odd your “recollection” seems clearly on a Chilean dictator than Mr Mcguiness and Mr Adams

Who said to let the electorate’s bodies pile high?

 

[skybluetony176]

Pre-emptive flag you have there Tone

Ahead of the game

 

[rondog1973]

I don’t think she said “what’s 5 dead Labour MPs - a start” or thank an organisation for murdering U.K. citizens on their own soil. As we know Corbyn supports murderers and terrorists everywhere - supporting murder on your own soil is all down to him and his mate McDonnell - odd your “recollection” seems clearly on a Chilean dictator than Mr Mcguiness and Mr Adams

Maria Gatland?

 

[shmmeee]

bit out of my area here but banging on about Corbyn- wasn't Thatcher close with Pinochet, who was responsible for 30,000 instances of torture and murder, and had 300 human rights crimes piled up against him when he died? Didn't Thatcher arrange to put him up & send him booze or something because he helped in the Falklands War

Just goes to show- people think its all very unseemly and nasty until it suits them

Yeah.

I don’t think she said “what’s 5 dead Labour MPs - a start” or thank an organisation for murdering U.K. citizens on their own soil. As we know Corbyn supports murderers and terrorists everywhere - supporting murder on your own soil is all down to him and his mate McDonnell - odd your “recollection” seems clearly on a Chilean dictator than Mr Mcguiness and Mr Adams

Oh we don’t like death threats now?

Man, 34, 'sent death threat to Corbyn after branding him a terrorist'

Paul Ritchie is charged with almost 30 counts of sending a threatening communication to politicians also including John Bercow, Dominic Grieve and Chuka Umunna.

uk.news.yahoo.com

Eastwood man admits making Jeremy Corbyn threat

Samuel Naylor admits sending a threatening message about wanting to kill the Labour leader.

www.google.co.uk

And those are just one ones that made the courts.

You really do make this too easy

 

[COV]

I don’t think she said “what’s 5 dead Labour MPs - a start” or thank an organisation for murdering U.K. citizens on their own soil. As we know Corbyn supports murderers and terrorists everywhere - supporting murder on your own soil is all down to him and his mate McDonnell - odd your “recollection” seems clearly on a Chilean dictator than Mr Mcguiness and Mr Adams

Not true, I’m agreeing with shmmeee that they’re all the same. Odd that you dismiss 30k murdered and tortured when they’re not British- kind of point proved, it’s all about what suits people when it comes to indignation and disgust

 

[Grendel]

Not true, I’m agreeing with shmmeee that they’re all the same. Odd that you dismiss 30k murdered and tortured when they’re not British- kind of point proved, it’s all about what suits people when it comes to indignation and disgust

Most people on here deny Mr Corbyn has any terrorist links?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Most people on here deny Mr Corbyn has any terrorist links?

He was ‘investigated’ and found to have none. I suspect he’d long have been arrested if he really did

 

[skybluetony176]

Maria Gatland?

The 3 Stevens enquiries that uncovered state collusion with loyalists paramilitaries leading to the murders of British citizens on British soil. Pretty much exclusively under a Tory government I seem to remember.

 

[COV]

Most people on here deny Mr Corbyn has any terrorist links?

I am not denying anything, I am merely saying that people are very selective when they decide who to aim their disgust at.

Corbyn links to the IRA? "What a despicable human being!!"
Thatcher links to Pinochet? "Well that wasn't on British soil and they helped us kill the Argies"
Johnson on about piling the bodies high? "CON +10"

You are either against this sort of thing or you're not, you can't decide whats horrible & what isn't based on which political party you support, that just immediately removes any credibility from your views.

 

[Grendel]

He was ‘investigated’ and found to have none. I suspect he’d long have been arrested if he really did

Well on that logic Mr Johnson has never been arrested for anything so....

Mr Corbyn has been arrested by the way

 

[PVA]

You are either against this sort of thing or you're not, you can't decide whats horrible & what isn't based on which political party you support, that just immediately removes any credibility from your views.

Exactly. But you can't reason with people like him. Too entrenched in the Tory cult.

Labour antisemitism = appalling
Tory Islamophobia = nothing to see here

Labour MP puts earphones on expenses = string her up
Tories siphon billions of pounds to their mates = perfectly acceptable

Keir Starmer, son of a toolmaker = elitist posh snob
Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson, born with a silver spoon in his mouth = man of the people

Etc etc

 

[COV]

Exactly. But you can't reason with people like him. Too entrenched in the Tory cult.

Labour antisemitism = appalling
Tory Islamophobia = nothing to see here

Labour MP puts earphones on expenses = string her up
Tories siphon billions of pounds to their mates = perfectly acceptable

Keir Starmer, son of a toolmaker = elitist posh snob
Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson, born with a silver spoon in his mouth = man of the people

Etc etc

I can't disagree with that.

Whats more, he knows it, but ultimately doesn't care one iota, because..

.. CON +10

And this is the inherent weakness with his argument- because its so petty and pathetic with both sides just pointing fingers at each other, soon as someone comes along who has no affiliation to any party and points out that, in fact, what one side has done is just as bad as what the other side has done, they have no answer at all because the attempts to divert to other people fail as facts take precedence over blind loyalty.

I've no doubt that Labour have behaved terribly, but that does not somehow wipe clean the way that the conservatives have acted, and continue to act.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well on that logic Mr Johnson has never been arrested for anything so....

Mr Corbyn has been arrested by the way

Has Corbyn ever been prosecuted for terror connections?

 

[Grendel]

Has Corbyn ever been prosecuted for terror connections?

He was arrested for protesting for the Brighton murderer - you asked if he was arrested - he was upset his conditions were not cosy enough in his prison cell.

Also you seem not able to deny anything I attributed to him and his cohort Mr McDonnell - who has never denied saying bombs and bullets against UK citizens were justified

He said it - you can't rewrite history

At least you finally admit all this talk about Boris Johnson being corrupt and dishonest is schoolboy nonsense he has not been charged let alone arrested

 

[shmmeee]

He was arrested for protesting for the Brighton murderer - you asked if he was arrested - he was upset his conditions were not cosy enough in his prison cell.

Also you seem not able to deny anything I attributed to him and his cohort Mr McDonnell - who has never denied saying bombs and bullets against UK citizens were justified

He said it - you can't rewrite history

At least you finally admit all this talk about Boris Johnson being corrupt and dishonest is schoolboy nonsense he has not been charged let alone arrested

You get arrested before you get charged.

And again. You can’t play guilt by association or you have to accept you’re on the side of white nationalist terrorists.

 

[PVA]

The mental gymnastics he goes through to defend his precious Tories

No one should incessantly defend a political party like that, embarrassing.

 

[Evo1883]

Fair enough

It was a genuine question though. As a Leave voter, has your life improved as a result of Brexit?

My life is no different at all if im honest

Infact , I can't remember an election over the last 20 years where I felt any different at All

 

[Grendel]

My life is no different at all if im honest

Infact , I can't remember an election over the last 20 years where I felt any different at All

95% of peoples lives do not change and thats the point

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He was arrested for protesting for the Brighton murderer - you asked if he was arrested - he was upset his conditions were not cosy enough in his prison cell.

Also you seem not able to deny anything I attributed to him and his cohort Mr McDonnell - who has never denied saying bombs and bullets against UK citizens were justified

He said it - you can't rewrite history

At least you finally admit all this talk about Boris Johnson being corrupt and dishonest is schoolboy nonsense he has not been charged let alone arrested

I’m not much of a fan of Mr Corbyn at this point in time, he like anyone has said unfortunate things. A bit like the ‘bodies pile up’ comment you keep swerving.

 

[PVA]

My life is no different at all if im honest

Infact , I can't remember an election over the last 20 years where I felt any different at All

So we've trashed the economy, put people out of business, ruined fishing and farming industries, wasted eye watering sums of money all for... no benefit whatsoever?

And you wonder why people think Brexit is a totally pointless waste of time!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes @Grendel it is funny how you side step anything inconvenient.