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shmmeee
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BRB off to tell Hamer and Dabo to GTFO.
Ccfcisparks
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Dabo wasnt an overseas signing, we signed him from Chelsea.
shmmeee
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That’s a fair point. But also he was in his mid twenties when we signed him, not 31. And came with a better goal scoring record.
Ccfcisparks
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At a lower level
shmmeee
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It must be that time of year again.
Can’t you just read one the hundred other threads this argument has been played out on?
Ccfcisparks
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Did we sign him from Chelsea yes or no?
shmmeee
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We signed him at a lower level. Point is he was on his way up. Waghorn was just released by a team that finished well below us. He’s coming off a poor season and we’re gambling on him coming good again.
shmmeee
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Did we scout him abroad yes or no?
Ccfcisparks
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Did we sign him from Chelsea?
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Dabo overseas lol. Hamer who we had to spend £1m on. Schmmeee has a weird obsession with the foreign signings so much so that he spent the whole of last season trying to convince everyone DaCosta was good. The reason we’ve had to shop abroad was because we couldn’t afford proven championship players
Dabo is English and was at Chelsea
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Grendel
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It’s debatable as he also played for Swindon and also for Chelsea in the checkatrade and this article suggests it was more his association with Viveash and his time at Chelsea
Marty
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ADI worked with him for years tbf. Bit of difference signing someone performing well in a good league like Hamer to hilssner from like the German farmers league. Bet he couldn't believe his luck when he found out.
Godden is 29 so only 2 years younger than Waghorn. Also Derby offered him a new contract so wasn’t released. He didn’t have a great season but no one at Derby did, doesn’t mean he’s a bad player
shmmeee
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Did he go through the foreign player recruitment process?
Rose? Hamer? Say what you like about Jobello and Dacosta but both did a job for the team.
You’ve got Kasta and Hilßner though. Just like the domestic process has Bosma, Allassani, Brown, Ogogo…
shmmeee
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We signed him two years ago.
Ccfcisparks
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How do you know we went through the foreign player recruitment process? People have posted numerous articles showing it was his link to Viveash that meant we signed him. Rose is not an overseas signing either and Jobello was a dud.
1ccfc
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That explains why he did so well here and seemed to flop everywhere else. It's the old 'horses for courses'.
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Rose!? You’re getting desperate. Must have scouted Waghorn from Rangers too.
Back with the DaCosta obsession again too
shmmeee
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Sure. I’m sure Viveash just said “I saw this kid years ago sign him” and that was it.
Ogogo was a dud. Don’t sign players from the same division. Alassani was a dud, don’t sign players from lower leagues. Giles was a dud, don’t take Prem loans. We can all cherry pick to suit our arguments.
He wasn’t an ‘up and coming’ player at 27 was he. He’d been a lower league journeyman
Frostie
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I get where you're coming from but I think most of that is now because of the level we're now at. The closing off of some of the European markets has probably had a bigger impact than many realise & not just in taking players from there - it's put a premium on British talent to the point where a L2 striker for example becomes a very expensive gamble. We're a very small fish in a very large pond in the Championship &, as we've seen with Matty James, the reality is there's always a bigger fish.
I still think there's scope to add some younger players from the Premier League but they are likely to be loans & much later in the window as parent clubs make their minds up as to where a young player fits in to their current & future plans. This often involves recruiting their own players first & even tying the youngsters down to new contracts etc before agreeing to loan them out.
The other thing, as MR alluded to, you've got a lot of players really unsure on their value in the post Covid market right now. A lot of them may be hanging on thinking they might get a better offer (can't blame them for that) but will soon realise that the market is not now what it was.
Ccfcisparks
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We've had won semi success from our overseas signings and that is Hamer. Any other is you just kidding yourself. Of course there are going to be more domestic duds, we sign a lot more of them, and we signed Ogogo 3 years ago. Stop kidding yourself.
cc84cov
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Maybe that’s why he did nothing as he was in such a poor side ? He still scored more than our top scorer tho didn’t he
shmmeee
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I didn’t say he was “up and coming” so not sure who you are quoting. I said he was on the way up as in he was moving up through the divisions. He hasn’t rattled around the same level for years which was the original point.
Ccfcisparks
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So Biamou was considered a player on the way up?
Grendel
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He made his debut in the championship
shmmeee
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We signed Kasta two years ago and you’re still going on about him. So to be clear it’s only a “semi success[ful]” foreign signing if they are one of our best players and they had to travel over an ocean to get here. Any other provisos?
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Will we stay up
As full back? If we go 4 at the back I’d prefer Pask but who plays at right back isn’t a deal breaker.
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@shmmeee DaCosta won’t shag you mate
shmmeee
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And then he dropped down to ebbesfleet and worked his way back up.
Ccfcisparks
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So you are counting Da Costa as a success hahahahaha unbelievable.
We have signed a player that overall has a decent record at this level. He’s an upgrade on most of our forwards. He didn’t have a great season last year but he didn’t score many less than our current forwards in a side that finished 11 points behind us. He gives us experience in this league which is what everyone was saying we were crying out for last season
Skybluedownunder
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If we are after Bright I wonder if that means Paterson deal is not happening
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