Sky Blue Pete
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Great come back from Raab. However the question stands. I would have said ok that’s a no and moves on
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Great come back from Raab. However the question stands. I would have said ok that’s a no and moves on
shmmeee
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This is what bothered me most about Corbyns time. The quality of MPs we got because they were selected for loyalty and not quality. And it’s basically a job for life.
Sky Blue Pete
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Maybe not in the Labour Party presently
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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What are you talking about? I mention about you have a closed mind and just repeat the mantras of the powerful and apparently the majority of the population disagree with me? I didn't realise you were so famous and popular that we'd polled the country on your thought processes.
Plus if we're talking about governance by popular opinion then China holds over 10% of the world's population and their method of governance is almost universally popular there. Putin has a massive popularity level as well. Meanwhile here we largely think the PM is a buffoon, albeit a charismatic one and in the US it's split pretty much down the middle. So I guess going by what is popular we ought to ditch our systems and follow ones more akin to theirs. Do you not agree? Or do you think the popular opinion is flawed due to the inherent biases and controls of the system itself?
I'm not bitter or resentful, just exasperated and frustrated that so many people are taken in by the guff they get fed on all sides of the political spectrum.
Philosoraptor
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To be honest with you SBD, Democracy itself is flawed but it is the least harmful of the systems of Government.
What makes Democracy worthwhile is the intrinsic natures of Liberty and Equality found within it.
It is a shame that the political parties within this democratic framework do not have the same high standards.
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Grendel
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Will Boris Johnson be one of the great prime ministers?
Boris Johnson may have been unable to work his magic on the burghers of Chesham as he did on fellow G7 leaders last weekend at Carbis Bay. But as he approaches his second anniversary in power next month, it is worth asking whether he is on track to become one of the landmark prime ministers
www.spectator.co.uk
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Not registered, but didn't realise the Spectator had taken up scriptwriting for stand-up.Will Boris Johnson be one of the great prime ministers?
Boris Johnson may have been unable to work his magic on the burghers of Chesham as he did on fellow G7 leaders last weekend at Carbis Bay. But as he approaches his second anniversary in power next month, it is worth asking whether he is on track to become one of the landmark prime ministers
skybluetony176
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That article might have a minuscule amount of credibility if it didn’t dismiss the PM who delivered the longest period of sustained growth in U.K. history as a landmark PM.Will Boris Johnson be one of the great prime ministers?
Boris Johnson may have been unable to work his magic on the burghers of Chesham as he did on fellow G7 leaders last weekend at Carbis Bay. But as he approaches his second anniversary in power next month, it is worth asking whether he is on track to become one of the landmark prime ministers
Introduced the minimum wage, banned fox hunting, Britannia was cool again, GDP went through the roof, devolution, GFA. I can’t stand the bloke and believe the Iraq war was a lie he should face justice for but to not recognise the good things he done and dismiss him as a landmark PM the article is clearly written by someone with an agenda and therefore completely unbalanced.
fernandopartridge
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I'd like more people like Neil Coyle
shmmeee
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Honestly they’re all shite. I’ve whined before about the quality of MPs the selection process produces.
Ian1779
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Neil Coyle is the Sunderland of Labour MP’s - thinks he has a divine right to be considered a ‘top-tier’ MP when in reality he’s a small-time prick living in the past.
shmmeee
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Genuinely don’t even know who he is.
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I Googled. His wikipedia entry is entertaining!
shmmeee
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Just read the “controversial statements” section, I’m warming to the guy.
chiefdave
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This is an interesting story.
www.insideedition.com
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will be 
Study in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'
"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
www.insideedition.com
skybluetony176
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I’d never have the option due to the nature of my work but I wouldn’t begrudge others the possibility. My wife in her work could definitely do a 4 day week.This is an interesting story.
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will beStudy in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'
"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
COV
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This is an interesting story.
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will beStudy in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'
"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
I'm in the "good idea" camp for sure
Been proven to work, good for people. Lots of places starting to roll it out, or at least a version of it via flexitime.
skybluetony176
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This is what I mean about The Express
If their readership really buys articles like this and think that will show the EU, Brexit wins again then they’re dribbling idiots.
If their readership really buys articles like this and think that will show the EU, Brexit wins again then they’re dribbling idiots.
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Some more brexit stories
www.telegraph.co.uk
www.telegraph.co.uk
www.telegraph.co.uk
London reclaims position as Europe’s top trading hub
The shift back to the City was helped by the return of Swiss share trading in London
www.telegraph.co.uk
How Nissan learned to stop worrying and love Brexit
After years backing the EU and the euro, Nissan now describes Britain's exit as an 'opportunity' and is building a £1bn battery factory here
www.telegraph.co.uk
The EU plot to destroy the City has been a catastrophic failure
Brussels believed it could regulate its way to victory, but its all stick and no carrot strategy was never going to work
www.telegraph.co.uk
Northants Sky Blue
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Some more brexit stories
London reclaims position as Europe’s top trading hub
The shift back to the City was helped by the return of Swiss share trading in London
How Nissan learned to stop worrying and love Brexit
After years backing the EU and the euro, Nissan now describes Britain's exit as an 'opportunity' and is building a £1bn battery factory here
The EU plot to destroy the City has been a catastrophic failure
Brussels believed it could regulate its way to victory, but its all stick and no carrot strategy was never going to work
As Schmmeee indicates, its unlikely these 3 articles from a Boris Johnson fanzine are providing a neutral viewpoint
shmmeee
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Only did the first one, London is back ahead by <€1bn after being ahead in Dec by >€12bn.
Wasn’t my point though, as the articles in the Guardian are as bad the other way.
Northants Sky Blue
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No your point was that articles on either side are usually biased which I agree the Telegraph and Guardian routinely prove.
The difference being 90% of print media leans heavily to the right
skybluetony176
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The first story doesn’t make up for the lost revenue for the city. No Brexit win.
The Nissan story seems to be regurgitated every month, it’s only actually happened once, Nissan actually already had a battery factory next door to the car plant while we were in the EU and given that the electric car market is a growing market and the future you’d be hard pushed to say this investment wouldn’t have happened anyway.
Haven’t read the third story but I dare say that the “EU” plot was just actually what was always going to happen when we left as per the rules we helped write decades ago. So no plot, just what it is.
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Both are probably as bad as the other, which was really the point of my post - that the relentless, daily posting of the guardian and twitter feeds here have an opposite number that we can all choose to dance around, not that I can be bothered quite frankly.
shmmeee
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No I agree, and could have answered the same to those posts, but yaknow biases.
Genuine question though. It's a topic I find really hard to source decent news. Those that care enough to report have an angle and those that don't have an angle don't care. So it's just the stream of bullshit from both sides. Which I guess means there's nothing to report of note. Probably best to reconvene in five years and look at the data.
Skybluefaz
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Red Nev sticking the boot in to Boris Johnson.
Skybluefaz
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Christ, when you put it that way it's a joke isn't it?
Skybluefaz
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I presume he's looking for tips and not giving the talk?
Ian1779
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Skybluefaz
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She seems like one of the good ones.