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[Deleted member 4439]

Southgate said that we were taking the knee to show solidarity against racism. People got all wound up saying it was wrong, people should be allowed to boo, and it had a different agenda. Racism shows it’s ugly head after the football and all of a sudden the same people are saying what a disgrace racism is, or have just gone strangely quiet. Now everyone sees what the knee is against and I hope it stays from now on.

I'm not sure people see it any differently, and I don't think it's going to stop the trolling anytime soon. Not sure what the answer is though, other that some very clever technology that prevents the online abuse before it is posted.

 

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[COV]

I'm not sure people see it any differently, and I don't think it's going to stop the trolling anytime soon. Not sure what the answer is though, other that some very clever technology that prevents the online abuse before it is posted.

Yes I agree with that in terms of the online stuff.

I guess I’m saying that people are finally being called out. The Sun with a huge headline saying “we’ve got your back” just days after running a column calling taking the knee “virtue signalling baloney” and “a grotesque woke pantomime”. People are seeing through it more, I mean we have football players embarrassing politicians now, that’s got to be a good thing when it comes to this type of thing.

 

[shmmeee]

I'm not sure people see it any differently, and I don't think it's going to stop the trolling anytime soon. Not sure what the answer is though, other that some very clever technology that prevents the online abuse before it is posted.

It’s always this though.

People don’t exist in a vacuum. Messaging from authority figures and community leaders matters.

Let’s be honest a bunch of grifters, sadly including many of our current govenrment, decided to shit stir about stuff they don’t actually believe for clout and to grab the racist vote. They don’t then get to Pearl clutch about said racists.

 

[Grendel]

Yes I agree with that in terms of the online stuff.

I guess I’m saying that people are finally being called out. The Sun with a huge headline saying “we’ve got your back” just days after running a column calling taking the knee “virtue signalling baloney” and “a grotesque woke pantomime”. People are seeing through it more, I mean we have football players embarrassing politicians now, that’s got to be a good thing when it comes to this type of thing.

Back from Ireland now ROS?

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

 

[SBT]

I'm not sure people see it any differently, and I don't think it's going to stop the trolling anytime soon. Not sure what the answer is though, other that some very clever technology that prevents the online abuse before it is posted.

Weirdly enough, there don't seem to be many technological barriers for social media companies stopping copyrighted material being uploaded/swiftly taken down, but apparently racist slurs and emoji are just too sophisticated for them to stop.

 

[chiefdave]

Weirdly enough, there don't seem to be many technological barriers for social media companies stopping copyrighted material being uploaded/swiftly taken down, but apparently racist slurs and emoji are just too sophisticated for them to stop.

Posted something similar on twitter recently. Try posting a copywriten song or video and it soon gets taken down. I've even had things taken off YouTube that I have the copyright for!

No way they can't stop racism and other dodgy shit that is on social media, they just can't be bothered.

Even when you report something nothing happens, its an automated process that basically ignores your complaint and you only see action when a large number of people report the same thing.

 

[clint van damme]

It’s always this though.

People don’t exist in a vacuum. Messaging from authority figures and community leaders matters.

Let’s be honest a bunch of grifters, sadly including many of our current govenrment, decided to shit stir about stuff they don’t actually believe for clout and to grab the racist vote. They don’t then get to Pearl clutch about said racists.

Though seeing said grifters trying to get on the band wagon as the team progressed was one of the hilights of the tournament.

I see GBeebies News has upset its viewers by attacking the racists. Bit too woke for its audience! Maybe Andrew Neil is a Marxist

 

[COV]

Though seeing said grifters trying to get on the band wagon as the team progressed was one of the hilights of the tournament.

I see GBeebies News has upset its viewers by attacking the racists. Bit too woke for its audience! Maybe Andrew Neil is a Marxist

How are the viewing figures for GB news these days

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How are the viewing figures for GB news these days

Just two Boris and priti this morning trying to avoid calls from everyone else to answer some questions

 

[TomRad85]

Back from Ireland now ROS?

You know I did wonder if this guy was ROS. Very very similar. On a serious note I was mildly concerned about his sudden disappearance so hopefully it is.

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[COV]

Just two Boris and priti this morning trying to avoid calls from everyone else to answer some questions

Things are looking challenging for them if they’re down to just two viewers

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm not sure people see it any differently, and I don't think it's going to stop the trolling anytime soon. Not sure what the answer is though, other that some very clever technology that prevents the online abuse before it is posted.

This guy saw it differently

Euro 2020: Musician Billy Bragg and commentator Calvin Robinson debate England taking the knee ahead of final

We’re joined from Weymouth by the singer and left-wing political activist Billy Bragg, who speaks about reclaiming England in his new LP called England, Half English, and from Oxford by Calvin Robinson from the right-leaning think-tank Policy Exchange.

www.channel4.com

He’s apparently part of a “think” tank that advises the government. According to some sources.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

This guy saw it differently

Euro 2020: Musician Billy Bragg and commentator Calvin Robinson debate England taking the knee ahead of final

We’re joined from Weymouth by the singer and left-wing political activist Billy Bragg, who speaks about reclaiming England in his new LP called England, Half English, and from Oxford by Calvin Robinson from the right-leaning think-tank Policy Exchange.

www.channel4.com

He’s apparently part of a “think” tank that advises the government. According to some sources.

I had looked for that link following it being on live, good discussion I thought. Didn't care to much for Bragg's use of ad hominems and his derogatory behaviour - he went down in my estimation. The presenter acted similarly on occasions. I thought Calvin Robisnon spoke a lot of sense, even though I think the 'knee' debate is behind us now.

 

[COV]

I had looked for that link following it being on live, good discussion I thought. Didn't care to much for Bragg's use of ad hominems and his derogatory behaviour - he went down in my estimation. The presenter acted similarly on occasions. I thought Calvin Robisnon spoke a lot of sense, even though I think the 'knee' debate is behind us now.

Billy Bragg does that side of the argument no favours, comes across like he knows more than anyone else, patronising and a bit aggressive, I don’t like the man.

That’s why the knee is so powerful- hardcore left wing warriors bang on for years and just turn the general public off, but then 11 ‘dense footballers’ make a simple gesture for a few seconds without even opening their mouths, and it does more good, creates more awareness and makes racists way more uncomfortable than 100 Billy Bragg lectures ever could.

People like Billy Bragg talk & drone on- people switch off, footballers take the knee- the whole country takes notice and starts talking.

 

[shmmeee]

Billy Bragg does that side of the argument no favours, comes across like he knows more than anyone else, patronising and a bit aggressive, I don’t like the man.

That’s why the knee is so powerful- hardcore left wing warriors bang on for years and just turn the general public off, but then 11 ‘dense footballers’ make a simple gesture for a few seconds without even opening their mouths, and it does more good, creates more awareness and makes racists way more uncomfortable than 100 Billy Bragg lectures ever could.

People like Billy Bragg talk & drone on- people switch off, footballers take the knee- the whole country takes notice and starts talking.

Something the left never gets: first get people to like you, *then* push your politics.

Unions worked because they existed in peoples lives solving real problems before they said vote Labour.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

LOL

 

[Ian1779]

LOL

Snowflakes are right precious little fuckers aren’t they?

 

[skybluetony176]

It’s amazing how a parody can get it so right so often

 

[skybluetony176]

That went well.

 

[Grendel]

You know I did wonder if this guy was ROS. Very very similar. On a serious note I was mildly concerned about his sudden disappearance so hopefully it is.

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The only concern would be if he was stuck up his own backside and couldn’t get his swollen head out of it

It’s definitely him - at least he’s not lying about his age this time - like Rupert he seems to need to regenerate his username every so often.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

 

[COV]

How old is this? She just looks ridiculous here

 

[Philosoraptor]

I do worry about the people who have the reigns of power.

I'm a pragmatist of this subject. The deterrent argument is just fucking mental from her.

 

[shmmeee]

Absokutely thick as two planks.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Absokutely thick as two planks.

You can't argue with her point though, the death penalty as a deterrent is well demonstrated by that peaceful utopia the USA

 

[Evo1883]

How has Alastair Campbell, a man partly responsible for bullshit documents leading to the Iraq war which killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people ("Come on , you honestly think we won't find something " on WMD), managed to A. Become a spokesman on morals on social media and B. Managed to wangle a part time GIG on good morning Britain?

Fuck me , we really are low balling these days

 

[skybluetony176]

You can't argue with her point though, the death penalty as a deterrent is well demonstrated by that peaceful utopia the USA

Ahh, the good old US of A. The most incarcerated country in the world. Doesn’t even work as a method of reducing the prison population and thus the burden on the taxpayers. It’s a stupid idea and confirmation of that is the fact that Priti Patel is saying it’s a good idea.

 

[chiefdave]

Absokutely thick as two planks.

It would be bad enough if she was just some back bench MP that had somehow ended up being elected. When you think that person is now the Home Secretary you don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Shouldn't being forced to resign in disgrace from one government position exclude you from being considered for other positions?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Ahh, the good old US of A. The most incarcerated country in the world. Doesn’t even work as a method of reducing the prison population and thus the burden on the taxpayers. It’s a stupid idea and confirmation of that is the fact that Priti Patel is saying it’s a good idea.

There is a thought that the high incarceration levels are actually deliberate because it's how America remains competitive. Basically it gets used as slave labour.

 

[chiefdave]

Ahh, the good old US of A. The most incarcerated country in the world. Doesn’t even work as a method of reducing the prison population and thus the burden on the taxpayers. It’s a stupid idea and confirmation of that is the fact that Priti Patel is saying it’s a good idea.

Speaking of the USA

Gun resembling Lego toy sparks backlash in US

A US company is told to stop producing a customised firearm covered in what looks like Lego.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Skybluefaz]

There is a thought that the high incarceration levels are actually deliberate because it's how America remains competitive. Basically it gets used as slave labour.

63K views · 52 reactions | Prison Town | The Americas with Simon Reeve | A quarter of the prisoners on Earth are believed to be in the United States. | By BBC iPlayer | Facebook

A quarter of the prisoners on Earth are believed to be in the United States.

fb.watch

Simon Reeve did a good documentary on it.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

In a shithouse of a cabinet she still stands out as the most sociopathic, careerist grifter we've probably ever seen.

 

[skybluetony176]

There is a thought that the high incarceration levels are actually deliberate because it's how America remains competitive. Basically it gets used as slave labour.

Read about it myself. Basically the suggestion is that incarceration replaced slavery.

 

[skybluetony176]

Ahh, the good old I can’t be a racist I have a brown mate line of defence.