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[fernandopartridge]

Running in school shoes….

This stuff is all put on for show, embarrassing that the media reports this stuff to try and make out he's some sort of quirky affable character

It's bollocks anyway, the ring of steel around the Midland Hotel and the GMEX leaves nowhere to actually go for a run

 

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[Evo1883]

Ian Duncan Smith attacked today in Manchester, with a traffic cone .

5 people arrested .

 

[chiefdave]

Ian Duncan Smith attacked today in Manchester, with a traffic cone .

5 people arrested .

How big was the traffic cone if it took 5 people to chuck it at him?

 

[Evo1883]

How big was the traffic cone if it took 5 people to chuck it at him?

I just know 5 people have been arrested , maybe for other disorders outside the conference

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The poor traffic cone.

 

[wingy]

He was off to a fringe apparently
Code for buying sex .

 

[wingy]

The spin and evasion has been in overdrive this weekend.

 

[skybluetony176]

Was he actually assaulted with a traffic cone or was he just assaulted resulting in his dunce hat falling of his head?
#needpictures

 

[Ian1779]

When he hears they’ll melt the cone down…

 

[Grendel]

Shameful - type of thing encouraged by the gobshite Raynor

Interesting also the left on here supporting violence as they can’t win the argument

What a surprise

 

[Ian1779]

Shameful - type of thing encouraged by the gobshite Raynor

Interesting also the left on here supporting violence as they can’t win the argument

What a surprise

PS. A right wing nut-job murdered an MP only 5 years ago, so maybe pipe the fuck down on this one.

 

[shmmeee]

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PS. A right wing nut-job murdered an MP only 5 years ago, so maybe pipe the fuck down on this one.

And three years ago the bloke who drove a van into a load of Muslims admitted planning to try and kill Corbyn.

And two years ago a Nazi was stopped during his plot to kill Rosie Cooper.

But oh noes traffic cone! So much for the tolerant left

 

[skybluetony176]

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PS. A right wing nut-job murdered an MP only 5 years ago, so maybe pipe the fuck down on this one.

And three years ago the bloke who drove a van into a load of Muslims admitted planning to try and kill Corbyn.

And two years ago a Nazi was stopped during his plot to kill Rosie Cooper.

But oh noes traffic cone! So much for the tolerant left

They were all mentally ill remember so don’t count.

 

[chiefdave]

The Times are reporting:

Hospital managers who fail to clear mounting NHS backlogs will be sacked under government plans

I'd say its unbelievable but sadly it is. Underfund the NHS to the point it can't cope then blame the NHS for not being able to cope when there's a global pandemic and the government manages to let it get out of control to a point our numbers are far worse than many other countries.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The Times are reporting:

I'd say its unbelievable but sadly it is. Underfund the NHS to the point it can't cope then blame the NHS for not being able to cope when there's a global pandemic and the government manages to let it get out of control to a point our numbers are far worse than many other countries.

It's the end game. Make it terrible, tell people it's terrible, privatise it.

Which is a weird conclusion to come to seeing as it seems to be getting worse as more and more is being contracted out to private firms.

 

[chiefdave]

On Andrew Marr on Sunday Johnson, after Marr had explained how farming works to him, said we didn't need to worry about a pig cull as it hadn't yet happened and to 'wait and see'. Well less than 48 hours later the cull of healthy animals has begun due to labour shortages.

UK pig farms cull healthy animals amid labour shortage

Trade body warns mass slaughter likely to follow, as PM dismisses sector’s concerns

www.ft.com

Pig farmers have begun the UK’s first cull of healthy animals not prompted by disease, slaughtering about 600 animals after the government declined to intervene to help with an acute labour shortage preventing abattoirs from processing enough meat.

 

[wingy]

The Times are reporting:

I'd say its unbelievable but sadly it is. Underfund the NHS to the point it can't cope then blame the NHS for not being able to cope when there's a global pandemic and the government manages to let it get out of control to a point our numbers are far worse than many other countries.

Well it is a bit confounding when cases are running at 10 times as much as parts of Europe.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Many of the UK problems are fundamentally a result of long term austerity and long term wage stagnation. Supermarkets have artificially held down prices to a level consumers can afford, particularly for meat and dairy which with the power imbalance between producers and supermarkets drives down wages further. Brexit is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Our high covid death and case rate again is related to poverty, poor wages and conditions and poor living standards

 

[David O'Day]

They were all mentally ill remember so don’t count.

Grendal in talking bollocks shocker

 

[Liquid Gold]

On Andrew Marr on Sunday Johnson, after Marr had explained how farming works to him, said we didn't need to worry about a pig cull as it hadn't yet happened and to 'wait and see'. Well less than 48 hours later the cull of healthy animals has begun due to labour shortages.

UK pig farms cull healthy animals amid labour shortage

Trade body warns mass slaughter likely to follow, as PM dismisses sector’s concerns

www.ft.com

Can someone explain why I'm not being incredibly thick in thinking that they just keep the pigs alive until there isn't a staff shortage?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Can someone explain why I'm not being incredibly thick in thinking that they just keep the pigs alive until there isn't a staff shortage?

I assume its simply a matter of cash......keeping pigs alive costs money.....killing & selling them makes money.

 

[Grendel]

Can someone explain why I'm not being incredibly thick in thinking that they just keep the pigs alive until there isn't a staff shortage?

They get too big to fit in the prisons they are encased in before being gassed to death at the abattoir

 

[Liquid Gold]

They get too big to fit in the prisons they are encased in before being gassed to death at the abattoir

Grim

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Can someone explain why I'm not being incredibly thick in thinking that they just keep the pigs alive until there isn't a staff shortage?

I guess it's space requirements. They keep growing and you're pretty soon not meeting animal welfare standards. Plus I guess it can get problematic if they start to reach maturity and it'd probably be pretty difficult and expensive to castrate that many pigs.

 

[Grendel]

Grim

The whole argument I’ve heard about the impact on animal welfare is ridiculous - it’s more about not eating a juicy pork chop as it’s gone up in smoke before you can eat it

 

[RedSalmon]

Well it is a bit confounding when cases are running at 10 times as much as parts of Europe.
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The Times are reporting:

I'd say its unbelievable but sadly it is. Underfund the NHS to the point it can't cope then blame the NHS for not being able to cope when there's a global pandemic and the government manages to let it get out of control to a point our numbers are far worse than many other countries.

Most of the managers I worked for in the NHS (apart from two notable exceptions) should have been sacked anyway. Useless and nearly always promoted beyond their ability.

 

[skybluetony176]

I assume its simply a matter of cash......keeping pigs alive costs money.....killing & selling them makes money.

It takes a year to turn the pig production tap off according to one pig farmer on TV last week.

 

[skybluetony176]

The whole argument I’ve heard about the impact on animal welfare is ridiculous - it’s more about not eating a juicy pork chop as it’s gone up in smoke before you can eat it

We’re also replacing the pigs we can’t butcher with imported butchered pork. So twice as many pigs will end up being slaughtered to fill the same food chain. It’s absolutely about animal welfare, you’re being very ignorant (probably deliberately) about it.

 

[shmmeee]

Can someone explain why I'm not being incredibly thick in thinking that they just keep the pigs alive until there isn't a staff shortage?

I think they get too big to be butchered or something. Or too old for the meat.

 

[PVA]

"High Wage, High Skill economy"

Another bullshit soundbite for the bootlickers to lap up.

 

[PVA]

Raab is painfully thick

 

[chiefdave]

Say what you want about Johnson but he knows how to play to his audience. His speech was streets ahead of Starmers.

While there was little substance in it, same could be said of Starmers, he gives people the soundbites they want. As we all know nobody, especially the media, has any interest in going past soundbites and pushing for any detail or checking the validity of the claims he throws about.

 

[David O'Day]

Say what you want about Johnson but he knows how to play to his audience. His speech was streets ahead of Starmers.

While there was little substance in it, same could be said of Starmers, he gives people the soundbites they want. As we all know nobody, especially the media, has any interest in going past soundbites and pushing for any detail or checking the validity of the claims he throws about.

We must of just watched a different speech

 

[David O'Day]

He also needs substance

His own MPs are telling him the will lose their own seats without it

Tory MP Warns She Will Lose Her Seat If Voters Don't See 'Physical Changes' Soon

Great Grimsby MP says voters are "expecting to see something now happen" from Boris Johnson's government.

uk.movies.yahoo.com

 

[David O'Day]

Also the Starmer toolmaker joke was much much better than "starmer chameleon"