Coventry avoid squad crisis.... (4 Viewers)

[skyblueelephant]

Rumours confirmed by the Daily Mail, looks like things have been resolved.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...void-squad-crisis-following-crunch-talks.html

 

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[woody11462]

That makes me feel slightly better but I wouldn't be surprised if the players heads have been affected by this.

 

[skyblueelephant]

Hopefully we can just get on and play some football now...

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

I don't see how we could possibly have 16 players being forced pay cuts

Nearly everyone in the whole squad has joined or signed a new contract in the last 12 months, surely they would have offered wages which would have been sustainable for league 1?

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

If all this transpires as being true, I think it would be safe to assume that SISU did not offer new deals to Keogh and Cranie!

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Also thorn has actually indicated to the players not to sign it. Its out of his hands, its behind the scenes of our club that has told the players.

Cheers Lynch, I think you were right with inside info last week so I'm starting to believe this now. No real surprise to me as we're talking SISU here: how to wreck a clubs promotion chances before the season has even started or what :facepalm: :jerkit:

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

I understand and agree with a pay cut for the existing players but if this is true i would expect every player who agreed a different contract with bonus included which is now being changed, to stop training and refuse to play until the PFA get involved. What is it with Sisu not feeling that a binding contract is legal,,,seems trouble is not far ahead again..

They clearly think they are above such trivial matters. The law is only ever an obstacle to be overcome or ignored to them. This is what I mean when they say they have no morals and no ethics: brutal and utterly clueless when it comes to appropriate or acceptable behaviour for owners of a football club.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

The stupidest thing about this thread is how many people denounce the original poster by saying "Baker came here 2 years ago, he got Sky then" as if they know anything about him at all. "All footballers have Sky..." - whatever

Anyway, if this is true then it's no bad thing. We need to cut costs, so it's reasonable to ask the players to make a sacrifice when it was partly their fault that we went down. Baker is just as responsible for anyone, I still haven't forgiven him for his reprehensible performance at Southampton. I can see the players' point of view though.

He only moved down here last season

Oh and he was our best player against Southampton!

 

[Sub]

on the back page of the telegraph there is a report on this about SISU playing hardball and refusing players bonuses:facepalm:nothing like making the players want to play for the badge is there :facepalm::facepalm:

 

[bamalamafizzfazz]

Chief executive Tim Fisher said: 'Everyone connected with the club knows that our budgets have been slashed because of relegation. However, this is as much about creating a culture that motivates success not mediocrity. The club paid out the thick end of £1million in bonuses last season - in a year when we were relegated. We feel this is not acceptable and had to change. The players have responded in engaging in mature sit down discussions.'

Seems pretty fair to me. The club knows they have negotiated terms but unfortunately they are unable to meet the terms of current deals. I do believe though that clauses should have been placed in the initial contracts indicating all players would take a percentage pay drop if the club were to be relegated

 

[Sub]

i think orange ken can take the blame for a number of players being ridiculous contracts:jerkit::jerkit:

 

[Diehard Si]

1-0 to the OP, Speedie and Lynch.

 

[Astute]

Or ridiculous players even getting contracts...........at least about all the shite players and players not good enough have gone now.

 

[I'mARealWizard]

One thing is certain...


Doesn't look like your dad will be keeping his job now this has got out

 

[torchomatic]

You're right, as the reported £1M in bonuses last season proved to be highly motivational, didn't it? :facepalm:

on the back page of the telegraph there is a report on this about SISU playing hardball and refusing players bonuses:facepalm:nothing like making the players want to play for the badge is there :facepalm::facepalm:

 

[speedie87]

1-0 to the OP, Speedie and Lynch.

Fingers crossed first win of many this season.

 

[Sub]

You're right, as the reported £1M in bonuses last season proved to be highly motivational, didn't it? :facepalm:

not saying it is right to pay bonuses for players that fail but to have this decided not even a week before the start of the season does not help matters and will not motivate the players, this should of been sorted a while ago

 

[@richh87]

I'd like to think that players are driven by their desire to win rather than £££ signs - but have to agree that this is typical SISU.

 

[torchomatic]

True enough, this should have been sorted during the summer. They're lucky they're getting anything. They hardly deserve it.

not saying it is right to pay bonuses for players that fail but to have this decided not even a week before the start of the season does not help matters and will not motivate the players, this should of been sorted a while ago

 

[stevo_ccfc]

Reading the telegraph article this hasn't been finalised yet, the players have till lunch today to agree or be listed....

So I guess we shall see when they announce tonights squad who is staying put

 

[SABBU]

Players Bonus

What is it with our club and contracts? Nearly £1m paid out in bonuses for taking us down. Like the only manager since 1958 to take us down and taking us to court for £300,000 loyalty bonus.
Like many people from our great city I worked in car factories, can you imagine only putting out 150 cars instead of the 200 it should have been then asking for our bonus.
It seems like common sense has prevailed and players have accepted bonus payments based on results. You don,t need to be a rocket scientist to work out that one.

 

[smileycov]

I don't read it that way, it said ALL had moved there contractual posistion and also that AT is relieved he can pick A FULL STRENGTH side. Seems sorted.

I also do not think it was harsh asking the players to adapt there bonus structure, there is not too many left from last season for a start. We paid out 1 Mill in bonuses after relegation. Basically we failed. They are asking that we change the structure so that only success is rewarded, is that a bad thing? If any player said no i am not committing to that, i want paying for failure i wouldnt want him playing for us anyhow. I want people that are confident on getting us promoted, they will be rewarded quite rightly for that....How it should be.

 

[aodea]

Well seems like the players are doing there parts. I understand that a lot of players have a bonus or two in thier contracts and thats acceptable but always felt that in case of a relegation they should be forfeit.

 

[sotv1987]

My dads just got back from work. He's an engineer for SKY and fitted Carl Bakers SKY TV today. Before any of you comment, my dad has zero interest in football so there's be no reason for him to make this up. He wouldn't even know what he was talking about if he wasn't told it.

Carl told him that he may be dropped to the bench for this entire season. This is for wage reasons. Each player was asked to take a 20% wage drop, to which only 4 accepted (Carl being one of them). They have then asked all the players to give up their bonuses.

Baker told my dad that he was told that if he does not sign the new contact without the bonuses then he will be dropped to the bench for the entire season. He said he would drop the bonuses from his contact, if he were to get the 20% of his original wages back.

Well, how about that Chris mate, your Dad was right with his comments, and to think that some people on here shot him down in flames because it couldn’t possibly be true coming from a Sky engineer who visited a players house who apparently had sky already so there was no need for your Dad to be there, and what made it worse, your Dad doesn’t even follow football or indeed know anything about football, he seems to know a little more than some of the B/shit posts that gets put on this forum at times, so thank your Dad for the info mate. :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

I await the abuse form the “that post is b/shit merchants”

 

[ampthill_sba]

My dads just got back from work. He's an engineer for SKY and fitted Carl Bakers SKY TV today. Before any of you comment, my dad has zero interest in football so there's be no reason for him to make this up. He wouldn't even know what he was talking about if he wasn't told it.

Carl told him that he may be dropped to the bench for this entire season. This is for wage reasons. Each player was asked to take a 20% wage drop, to which only 4 accepted (Carl being one of them). They have then asked all the players to give up their bonuses.

Baker told my dad that he was told that if he does not sign the new contact without the bonuses then he will be dropped to the bench for the entire season. He said he would drop the bonuses from his contact, if he were to get the 20% of his original wages back.

Your info was correct it seems and those that disbelieved and even made up their own stories (like he's already got Sky) owe you an apology.

Let's face it getting Sky in another room wasn't beyond all possibility and when someone is frustrated about something they might talk to someone who'll listen even if they're a stranger.

 

[Tank Top]

Can anyone think of a football club who has successfully forced their players to take a pay cut against their wishes? I can believe that SISU may threaten things, but when it comes to practical reality, they'd simply never get away with it.

Still, you can almost see them now.."Got it: not only do we not pay the rent..we don't pay the players either! The perfect plan for re-structuring the business. We're through the looking glass here, people.."

Good thoughts NLHWC
It almost seems like SiSU are trying to derail the club before a ball is kicked, in court over defaulted rent agreement, and now trying to Bully and threaten players over their contracts, on the eve of the new season, we need players in the right frame of mind, not side tracked, and worrying about their
contracts, why are some people saying its far fetched, sounds like typical SISU to me.

 

[Grendel]

Good thoughts NLHWC
It almost seems like SiSU are trying to derail the club before a ball is kicked, in court over defaulted rent agreement, and now trying to Bully and threaten players over their contracts, on the eve of the new season, we need players in the right frame of mind, not side tracked, and worrying about their
contracts, why are some people saying its far fetched, sounds like typical SISU to me.

It sounds like a football club actually behaving like a proper business for once. Good.

 

[torchomatic]

I absolutely agree. Players, like all of us, should earn their money. We have been relegated, they should shoulder some of the blame along with Sisu and Thorn. They'll hardly be on the breadline will they?

Just offer them a promotion bonus and see how we do then.

It sounds like a football club actually behaving like a proper business for once. Good.

 

[sotv1987]

Your info was correct it seems and those that disbelieved and even made up their own stories (like he's already got Sky) owe you an apology.

Let's face it getting Sky in another room wasn't beyond all possibility and when someone is frustrated about something they might talk to someone who'll listen even if they're a stranger.

Quite right amptil, fully support your comments!!!!!​

I admit that i wasn’t convinced with Chris’s post yesterday, however also said that i’m not calling his dad a liar but just found it hard to believe.​

I get fed up with people on this forum claiming that a post is bullshit because thay just don’t want to beleive something!!!!! ​

 

[Grendel]

I absolutely agree. Players, like all of us, should earn their money. We have been relegated, they should shoulder some of the blame along with Sisu and Thorn. They'll hardly be on the breadline will they?

Just offer them a promotion bonus and see how we do then.

It seems in the wording in the telegraph a bonus based on league position is there instead. Shock, horror - footballers have to work and achieve in order to receive a bonus.

 

[torchomatic]

It's well documented that only a certain percentage can be spent on wages and after last year's performance, then the players should've realised that their wages would be affected. This has happened to lots of other teams. They still get more money than we can only dream of, so my heart isn't bleeding too much. Let's see them play for the shirt. And for us.

I would say though that this should've been sorted sooner.

[/I]

Good thoughts NLHWC
It almost seems like SiSU are trying to derail the club before a ball is kicked, in court over defaulted rent agreement, and now trying to Bully and threaten players over their contracts, on the eve of the new season, we need players in the right frame of mind, not side tracked, and worrying about their
contracts, why are some people saying its far fetched, sounds like typical SISU to me.

 

[sky blue john]

With this coming to light now it makes it even more obvious that Cranie and Keogh were never going to stay.

 

[torchomatic]

Nothing talks as loud as money.

With this coming to light now it makes it even more obvious that Cranie and Keogh were never going to stay.

 

[Grendel]

With this coming to light now it makes it even more obvious that Cranie and Keogh were never going to stay.

They were never going to stay anyway - Keogh turned down better clubs and just went to he who paid the most.

 

[ajsccfc]

Handing out bonuses to any of our players last season is like getting marks on an exam for spelling your name right on the cover.