Will Villa? (4 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I’m not saying in pre-season when they were nearly done and we were just getting started. We’d have them now.
Rangers to Villa is a step up, Chelsea to Rangers is a big step down
mark82
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Whatever Lampard takes is going to be a big step down to be fair. Rangers is an easy job, all he has to do is beat Celtic every year. It's pretty much no lose.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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It will be interesting to see how he does. There are quite a lot of pretty poor sides in the prem this season. I'd say Norwich and Newcastle look pretty doomed already!
AOM
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Agree about Lampard (also think the Championship to Rangers is barely a step up apart from for European games), but think it could be a potentially good job if he wants to win a few trophies, improve his managerial record and then a stepping stone to another bigger club again in a few years.
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Well... no lose, but one of the few jobs where second is a dismal failure, and even first can be seen as not good enough, if you're unconvincing with it.
letsallsingtogether
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The Prem is ranked at No1 in the World
The Championship is No11.
The Scottish Prem is No18.
Say no more.
The Championship is No11.
The Scottish Prem is No18.
Say no more.
The Philosopher
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I’m not sure why people are saying “EPL to SPL is a step down”, or “EFL to SPL us a step down”, “Chelsea to Rangers is a step down” about Lampard.
He’s out of work. Can’t see that taking the Rangers job is a “step down” for a jobless manager.
He’s out of work. Can’t see that taking the Rangers job is a “step down” for a jobless manager.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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I suspect he may end up at Norwich
The Philosopher
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That’d be a mistake.
The Philosopher
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Surprised Bruce (ex Norwich player, out of work, steady pair of hands, fairly certain to get them re-promoted next season) is not favourite for Norwich Manager.
TomRad85
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This is true tbf. Its similar to the 'no way would this out of contract player who used to be on 30k a week, come to us' argument.
Some money will always win out over no money, otherwise I'd never go to work again.
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OffenhamSkyBlue
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I'm not sure why - he needs to rebuild his managerial reputation with success at a mediocre club after being unsuccessful at a top 6 club having bailed on Derby (where he wasn't doing THAT well).
The Philosopher
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Let’s guess what next year looks like:
Scenario 1) Lampard to Norwich.
Norwich, Burnley, Watford down. Bournemouth, Fulham, WBA up
Relegation on CV. Must then beat some really strong teams to be promoted again. Not a certainty.
Scenario 2) Lampard to Rangers.
Minimum double attendances. Will be able to import a load of half decent English u19/20/21 loanees who would be glad of development opportunity and he can claim that he’s working with future England players at a later date. Should win league. Zero chance of relegation. Will get European football.
I’m not sure the manager Salary is critical to Lampard. I’m sure he’s got enough wool on his back from his playing days and Rangers are hardly short of gate revenue and shirt sales.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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Well when you put it like THAT ... LOL
But you are assuming that Norwich are unsalvageable even with a transfer window and a shitload of money in their coffers. I think your choice of Burnley going down is odd. I think they'll stay up. Brentford can't win to save their lives right now
But you are assuming that Norwich are unsalvageable even with a transfer window and a shitload of money in their coffers. I think your choice of Burnley going down is odd. I think they'll stay up. Brentford can't win to save their lives right now
Bruce is a total antithesis of the kind of manager Norwich would go for.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well I mean yeah it’s a total mystery
SlowerThanPlatt
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Would a player choose Norwich or Rangers? Ryan Christie went from Celtic to Bournemouth
JAM See
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At what? And by who?
Best dressed fans?
European titles?
Away ticket allocation?
mark82
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Attendance I assume.
The Philosopher
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Lampard at Rangers might work for both parties. Lampard at Norwich (where they will splash the cash more) might not. Bruce IMO a better fit.
Lampard spent big at Derby and look what’s happened to them since financially.
EG. £5m for Waghorn (Source: Sky Sports) might not be the type of thing Rangers would do and transfer dealings like that (his Chelsea record no better) would be bad for Norwich.
I’m going off topic, but Lampard was presumed to ambition the England job where transfer dealings are not the yardstick; coaching, identifying and strategising is.
Anyway, not my circus, not my monkeys, just ramblings:
Lampard to Norwich not sensible for either party. Bruce a safer bet. Lampard to Rangers is a safer bet for both.
The Philosopher
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It’s a funny one. Years ago Henrik Larsson, John Hartson etc. went to Scotland and could easily have been in the Prem. The gulf between has widened somewhat but the draw of 50k crowds, silverware, adulation, European football will appeal to some who could easily play lower Prem or Champ.
That said, how many Old Firm current players could hack the Champ now? Morelos? Kent? very few beside I’d wager.
Funny times.
TomRad85
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Scottish football is way way shitter than it was in the Larsson years.
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clint van damme
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Spl is the best attended league in Europe per capita.
Don't think the EPL is in the top 5 though its above Germany.
stay_up_skyblues
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My mate just text saying Gerard only won one trophy out of a potential nine up there. If true it’s not exactly an amazing record given the opposition, at least in the domestic comps.
clint van damme
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In histime there he's 4th for number of trophies won, though to be fair he seems to have done pretty well in Europe.
WestEndAgro
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letsallsingtogether
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Chill out not my table.
look it up !