Ghislaine Maxwell (17 Viewers)

[Sbarcher]

Read an article in the Guardian that speculated that she may already have tried to cut a deal and the prosecutors are not interested as they do not want to deal with her. Maybe she was the 'big fish' they were after so why should they do deals to reduce her sentence to prosecute other 'smaller fish'? I don't think we have heard the last of it yet, am sure other things will follow.

Thought it was breathtakingly arrogant of her not to take the stand as she felt the prosecution "had not proven their case". That must have influenced the jurors.

I'm obviously wrong but always thought you cut the deal with the DA at the time of charging to go to court facing a lesser charge, not a deal on the sentence afterwards. Must have been watching too many American cop shows!

 

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[shmmeee]

Read an article in the Guardian that speculated that she may already have tried to cut a deal and the prosecutors are not interested as they do not want to deal with her. Maybe she was the 'big fish' they were after so why should they do deals to reduce her sentence to prosecute other 'smaller fish'? I don't think we have heard the last of it yet, am sure other things will follow.

Thought it was breathtakingly arrogant of her not to take the stand as she felt the prosecution "had not proven their case". That must have influenced the jurors.

Not to be hugely cynical, but I’m guessing there’s political pressure for it to end with her.

 

[ajsccfc]

Jan Moir (the ghoul who said gayness killed Stephen Gateley and somehow remained employed) waited until deep into injury time to try and claim the crown of worst take of 2021

The youngest victim in the Epstein/Maxwell scandal was 14, and most were in their mid to late teens. Which makes me wonder, at what age does someone move from child-victim status into a person who is responsible for their own actions?

When she was 15, Greta Thunberg began the school strikes and public speeches, which made her an internationally recognised climate activist

 

[RedSalmon]

I'm obviously wrong but always thought you cut the deal with the DA at the time of charging to go to court facing a lesser charge, not a deal on the sentence afterwards. Must have been watching too many American cop shows!

You may very well be right and I could have totally misinterpreted what was said, have just tried to find the article and cannot.

Pure speculation here, but wonder how much affect the ongoing accusations against Andrew influenced Harry and Megan's decision to leave the family and move abroad. Pretty sure Magan would not have put herself in his company .

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel

 

[Grendel]

I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel

Not a chance she’s being charged now with perjury as well

 

[clint van damme]

Jan Moir (the ghoul who said gayness killed Stephen Gateley and somehow remained employed) waited until deep into injury time to try and claim the crown of worst take of 2021

What a c**t she is. Hopefully the next article I seen involving her is her obituary

 

[Sick Boy]

What a c**t she is. Hopefully the next article I seen involving her is her obituary

The journalists in the Mail are generally vile.

 

[clint van damme]

Not to be hugely cynical, but I’m guessing there’s political pressure for it to end with her.

Have you read anything on the deal Epstein made after his first conviction?

Sickening.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not a chance she’s being charged now with perjury as well

I think she’s been convicted of Epstein crimes as well. Hers were bad enough of course

 

[Nick]

Have you read anything on the deal Epstein made after his first conviction?

Sickening.

What did he do?

 

[clint van damme]

What did he do?

Got away with an incredibly lenient deal for being a paedo and those that facilitated got handsomely rewarded with promotions.
Would need to look up again which administrations were in charge, think it spanned more than one.

 

[RedSalmon]

You may very well be right and I could have totally misinterpreted what was said, have just tried to find the article and cannot.

Pure speculation here, but wonder how much affect the ongoing accusations against Andrew influenced Harry and Megan's decision to leave the family and move abroad. Pretty sure Magan would not have put herself in his company .

Found the article, unable to post a link but it was by Edward Helmore in New York. Was in the Guardian on 30/12/21.

 

[stay_up_skyblues]

Got away with an incredibly lenient deal for being a paedo and those that facilitated got handsomely rewarded with promotions.
Would need to look up again which administrations were in charge, think it spanned more than one.

From memory all but one charge was dropped as part of the deal.

The remaining one (soliciting an underage girl for sex) that he accepted was by far the most minor hence the serious ones around rape etc. disappeared.

And to ice the cake, the bit of time he did spend inside he was released everyday to work out of his office, transported to and from via limousine, and had girls delivered to him at his place of work. A farcical disgrace.

And iirc the DA or lawyer who brokered the deal ended up in Trump’s cabinet or at least well up the political food chain.

 

[Grendel]

The journalists in the Mail are generally vile.

The same old cliche

 

[Grendel]

Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight

 

[stupot07]

I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel

There's no way her convictions are going to be overturned on appeal, he was fully complicit and active in the facilitating and trafficking these girls for Epstein. She would have eventually been charged and found guilty of these crimes even if Epstien hasn't killed himself.

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[Ian1779]

Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight

If Starmer had any sense he’d jettison Mandelson ASAP.

 

[Grendel]

If Starmer had any sense he’d jettison Mandelson ASAP.

I do in all seriousness wonder if Ms maxwell was say Jacob Rees Moggs daughter if this would become more political

 

[clint van damme]

Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight

Mandelson should be particularly worried.

 

[clint van damme]

I do in all seriousness wonder if Ms maxwell was say Jacob Rees Moggs daughter if this would become more political

You sound like the only one trying to make it political.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What’s Mandelson done?

 

[Ian1779]

What’s Mandelson done?

Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.

Ta

 

[Grendel]

Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.

Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family

 

[shmmeee]

Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family

This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now

 

[Grendel]

This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now

Oh it’s just funny. Former labour MP donated millions to the socialist cause, employed Campbell and Mandleson…

 

[clint van damme]

Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family

They certainly are.
Like I said, you're the one trying to make it political.
Plenty on both sides should be worried. But I think Mandleson is the New Labour figure with most to hide.

 

[clint van damme]

This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now

Do you know of any 'Corbynites' who were in Epsteins black book or private jet passenger logs?

I've not seen any but if I've missed them I'll gladly ask questions of them as well.

 

[Ian1779]

They certainly are.
Like I said, you're the one trying to make it political.
Plenty on both sides should be worried. But I think Mandleson is the New Labour figure with most to hide.

You can be sure that if we get to election time and Mandelson is still in the Labour fold that it’s going to become quite the talking point.

 

[Ian1779]

This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now

To be fair calling out elites who think they are above justice goes beyond political affiliation.

 

[clint van damme]

You can be sure that if we get to election time and Mandelson is still in the Labour fold that it’s going to become quite the talking point.

So they should. Anyone in that Black book or on those flight logs need thoroughly investigating, I don't give a fuck who they are are what their political persuasion.

 

[Sick Boy]

The same old cliche

The Mail is vile xenophobic rag, surprised you’re actually defending it.

 

[Frostie]

So they should. Anyone in that Black book or on those flight logs need thoroughly investigating, I don't give a fuck who they are are what their political persuasion.

 

[shmmeee]

This one?