skybluetony176
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True but then this is a Conservative party hand picked by Boris. It doesn’t matter who replaces him they’re going to be equally awful.
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skybluetony176
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Especially when he hasn’t even delivered Brexit.
shmmeee
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skybluetony176
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Nadhim Zahawi talking total bollocks on Peston defending Boris. They’re lining up to fall on his sword with him.
stupot07
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I've just watched it, really is disgraceful defence.
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SkyBlueCharlie9
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Satire?
skybluetony176
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British politics must be starting to make Italian politics look respectable by now.
Sick Boy
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Haha, once Draghi goes it will revert back to normal.
Frostie
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It's genuinely amazing how foreign newspapers can see exactly what's happening but this country simply turns a blind eye.
From the New York Times:
skybluetony176
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It’s not even like this should come as a surprise to anyone. Boris Johnson turning out to be Boris Johnson is hardly a shocking headline.
skybluetony176
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Did JRM really just say what I thought he said in the HOC. If Boris broke the rules it wasn’t his fault because the rules were too strict.
clint van damme
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He said some Latin words in a posh voice first so he must be right.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Same can be said for pretty much anywhere. The US did it themselves with Trump. Italy with Berlusconi. Even those with unhealthy amounts of control like Xi, Putin and the tinpot dictators of eastern Europe have people who would defend them to their last breath even if they weren't silenced by the state.
People find it much harder to find (or admit) the fault in themselves.
I think what he meant/wanted to say is that the rules were perfectly fine for scummy pauper peasants like you and I, but far too strict for people such as he and Johnson.
Grendel
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Skybluefaz
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Do you not think such poor polling will do for Johnson?Oh no I can’t remember the last time Labour had such a lead
Oh I just have
Grendel
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Politics really is about the here and now at election time
Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll | Labour | The Guardian
<p>Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade</p>
shmmeee
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Politics really is about the here and now at election time
Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll | Labour | The Guardian
<p>Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade</p>amp.theguardian.com
Difference is you haven’t got 10% soft UKIP vote to rely on coming home come polling time.
Bonus is it seems to be stuck to Johnson, but Tories are in a bit of an identity crisis. Johnson remade the PCP in his image with his great purge, Sunak would struggle to hold onto the seats Johnson won with reheated Thatcherism and politics by numbers and Truss is another Johnson without the meme value.
skybluetony176
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David Cameron wasn’t a liability on a weekly basis. Dominic Cummings is not only hellbent on ending Boris’ career he’s setting out to torture him in the process. He’s going to keep drip feeding the dirt giving Boris enough opportunity between to tell enough lies to hang himself. The only question is how many lives he has. No was Boris will make the next GE, he might not see next week out.Politics really is about the here and now at election time
Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll | Labour | The Guardian
<p>Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade</p>
rob9872
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4 years into a supposed shit show, a world pandemic ongoing, wtf would they normally be debating and yet still the best attack the opposition have is 'yeah but you went to a party in your garden 18 months ago'. Whatever you might think about Boris, if I was a Labour voter I'd be genuinely concerned at the lack of genuine substance.
Skybluefaz
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I haven't said otherwise.Politics really is about the here and now at election time
Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll | Labour | The Guardian
<p>Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade</p>
Skybluefaz
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Context is important is it not? It's not just 'going to a party in your back garden' is it? Labour tried to get the vat on energy cut to help with the cost of living. Obviously voted down.
It's not Labour's fault the public don't care about corruption, gross incompetence, thousands of avoidable deaths and the Brexit disaster.
The parties just happens to be the one scandal that has stuck and hit home for the general public. Why wouldn't Labour take advantage of that?
rob9872
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It appears I might be alone, but i honestly couldn't care less if they had a party evert night of the summer. It didn't affect me and I wasn't surprised by there bring one or the faux outrage and petty point scoring about then, but it's pretty boring now and if that really is all they've got I'd be laughing at their chances. I think come the next election you'll be as surprised as you always are at a Conservative victory. Hopefully the price will get better and be some value in it.
You're not one. Just you and Grendel.
It didn't affect you so it's fine. I'm alright Jack. Spoken like a true Tory.
Grendel
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It’s a fair point but Johnson I’m sure was never interested in another term and he will I believe carry on until a bounce back impact leader is appointed and he was always going to lose a lot of the north seats anyway.