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[Grendel]

Going on for another month

Police consider interviewing Starmer face to face over Beergate claims

News comes as it emerges Labour is preparing dossier to show team worked late on night in question

www.theguardian.com

 

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[Grendel]

How dare Sir Beer put pressure on the police by, er... Erm. How dare he!

Wouldn't catch whiter than white Tories carrying out such behaviour would you?

Five Tory MPs breached code of conduct by trying to influence judge in Charlie Elphicke sex assault trial, committee rules

Charlie Elphicke was suspended from the Conservatives in 2017 after he was accused of sexual offences against two members of staff, and later sentenced to two years in prison.

news.sky.com

There is no comparison the comparison is Blair as it’s a direct copy cat strategy and the police admitted they backed off

 

[PVA]

There is no comparison the comparison is Blair as it’s a direct copy cat strategy and the police admitted they backed off

OK Dan.

 

[Grendel]

Even Kevin maguire hardly thinks it’s playing a blinder and Starmer was under pressure internally to make the announcement

 

[PVA]

Even Kevin maguire hardly thinks it’s playing a blinder and Starmer was under pressure internally to make the announcement

Does he?

 

[skybluetony176]

There is no comparison the comparison is Blair as it’s a direct copy cat strategy and the police admitted they backed off

Boris stood up in parliament and told the whole country (pretty sure that includes the police) that no rules were broken. Was Boris attempting to influence the police?

 

[skybluetony176]

Why did Starmer say Cummings was guilty when he now admits he didn’t break any rules at Barnard Castle?

Also not sure Starmer said what you’re saying he did. In fact if you look at what was printed at the time it looks like he took flack for not saying what you’re claiming he said. For example

Starmer has stayed out of Cummings fight so No 10 can't make it a political row

The Labour leader has taken a more measured approach to the controversy than other Opposition leaders

inews.co.uk

 

[CCFCSteve]

That’s not an answer though is it

Im not justifying it, I’m just saying political parties and papers will play politics to gain an advantage over their opposition and play to their crowd. Labour/left leaning papers were doing with the initial FPNs issued to Sunak and Johnson, now right wing papers/Tories are trying to take advantage of the Starmer situation.

I’ve said before, whilst I understand peoples justifiable anger/upset at potential rule breaking, I’d rather both sides focus on the post pandemic shitstorm that’s developing here and around the world and how we’re going to get ourselves through it

 

[Sick Boy]

Doesn’t seem to be anything on the Mails twitter feed regarding Starmers statement. Looks like Harry and Megan are public enemy No.1 again.

The Mail’s obsession with them is unhinged.

 

[clint van damme]

I’m case anyone who isn’t a full time troll thinks the Mail is a serious paper:

This sudden all out attack on Starmer is nothing to do with Labour's announcement it will end non dom status.
The fact their owner is a non dom is pure coincidence

 

[PVA]

The Queen's (or Charles', as it was) speech was a load of old shit this morning.

Charles seemed to be reading it with disdain as well.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Im not justifying it, I’m just saying political parties and papers will play politics to gain an advantage over their opposition and play to their crowd. Labour/left leaning papers were doing with the initial FPNs issued to Sunak and Johnson, now right wing papers/Tories are trying to take advantage of the Starmer situation.

I’ve said before, whilst I understand peoples justifiable anger/upset at potential rule breaking, I’d rather both sides focus on the post pandemic shitstorm that’s developing here and around the world and how we’re going to get ourselves through it

See, my way of having faith we can deal with upcoming issues is by having faith that the rule makers know and keep to the rules they made!

...and we haven't even got into the care home scandal...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Im not justifying it, I’m just saying political parties and papers will play politics to gain an advantage over their opposition and play to their crowd. Labour/left leaning papers were doing with the initial FPNs issued to Sunak and Johnson, now right wing papers/Tories are trying to take advantage of the Starmer situation.

I’ve said before, whilst I understand peoples justifiable anger/upset at potential rule breaking, I’d rather both sides focus on the post pandemic shitstorm that’s developing here and around the world and how we’re going to get ourselves through it

The left newspapers were ‘playing politics’ over Johnson and his ministers breaking all kinds of their own laws? That sounds like what Johnson would say himself.

 

[skybluetony176]

The Mail’s obsession with them is unhinged.

Dan Hodges twitter feed is hilarious. He basically seems very annoyed that Kier Starmer is playing by the rules. He now insists that if Starmer did anything else he has to incriminate himself.

 

[skybluetony176]

About sums it up

 

[PVA]

Dan Hodges twitter feed is hilarious. He basically seems very annoyed that Kier Starmer is playing by the rules. He now insists that if Starmer did anything else he has to incriminate himself.

He genuinely seems to be having a bit of a mental breakdown.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

Starmer's pretense of principle proves him a duplicitous double-dealer who, wait, I’m f**king lost here, by a right-wing columnist

KEIR Stamer’s latest underhand move proves he is playing petty politics with police lives and hang on, I’m out of my f**king depth here.

www.thedailymash.co.uk

 

[shmmeee]

Don’t tell the excellent Dan Hodges, but I’ve been getting away with not breaking the law for years now.

 

[stupot07]

Don’t tell the excellent Dan Hodges, but I’ve been getting away with not breaking the law for years now.

I'm a master non criminal.

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[Philosoraptor]

Surely, next day delivery by 9.00am would have been cheaper.

The day we become a Republic can't come soon enough.

 

[skybluetony176]

There’s a serious shitstorm brewing all of Boris’ making

 

[shmmeee]

Hodges channeling his inner Grendel after 12 pints:

 

[Grendel]

Sir Korma needs a hotter curry

 

[fernandopartridge]

I think the prolonged fuss over partygate is a perfect example of why people are disengaged with genuine political issues. What a waste of time it is.

 

[skybluetony176]

Hodges channeling his inner Grendel after 12 pints:

Apparently it was a wind up post. Although it’s become hard to tell the last couple of days as he’s become a parody of himself.

 

[Grendel]

I think the prolonged fuss over partygate is a perfect example of why people are disengaged with genuine political issues. What a waste of time it is.

in all seriousness it’s really embarrassing - How long was Johnson in the room abd was the cake a surprise, were people sharing poppadoms and Durham abs did they socially distance

Starmer yesterday pleading I stopped work for something to eat.

It’s a joke

 

[PVA]

in all seriousness it’s really embarrassing - How long was Johnson in the room abd was the cake a surprise, were people sharing poppadoms and Durham abs did they socially distance

Starmer yesterday pleading I stopped work for something to eat.

It’s a joke

I don't know how many times you need to be told the two events were at different times with different rules.

 

[Grendel]

I don't know how many times you need to be told the two events were at different times with different rules.

Case closed

Better tell the Durham police then

 

[PVA]

Case closed

Better tell the Durham police then

I think you'll find Durham police are well aware, hence they found no wrongdoing.

 

[Grendel]

I think you'll find Durham police are well aware, hence they found no wrongdoing.

As they didn’t with Dominic Cummings yet Starmer accused him of breaking the rules

Tut tut why didn’t Mr Starmer defend Cummings and say he was innocent?

 

[fernandopartridge]

in all seriousness it’s really embarrassing - How long was Johnson in the room abd was the cake a surprise, were people sharing poppadoms and Durham abs did they socially distance

Starmer yesterday pleading I stopped work for something to eat.

It’s a joke

It is a joke, and I'd have more respect if MPs came out and said:

1. Yes there probably were breaches of the rules that existed at either time
2. The rules were illogical and unclear
3. The SoS had excessive power to make those rules without any proper oversight
4. Fines for similar breaches should be compensated by the government through a special scheme

Then just get on with doing something useful

 

[Philosoraptor]

Sir Korma needs a hotter curry

Any other person eating a curry would be 20 pints ahead

 

[Grendel]

It is a joke, and I'd have more respect if MPs came out and said:

1. Yes there probably were breaches of the rules that existed at either time
2. The rules were illogical and unclear
3. The SoS had excessive power to make those rules without any proper oversight
4. Fines for similar breaches should be compensated by the government through a special scheme

Then just get on with doing something useful

Exactly of course this all plays into the Tories hands. It’s an irrelevance - it’s similar to the pre election perogue parliament nonsense and government defeats

A lot of smug people were laughing on here but as I said at the time every commons defeat for Johnson was a seat won at the general election

 

[PVA]

As they didn’t with Dominic Cummings yet Starmer accused him of breaking the rules

Tut tut why didn’t Mr Starmer defend Cummings and say he was innocent?

OK Dan.

 

[Grendel]

OK Dan.

Keep going. You actually I think believe people will look at specifics - no they won’t they see one privileged twat with a cake and another privileged twat with a Biryani no doubt paid on expenses

That’s what the average non Parisian voter sees - keep going it’s a great deflection - all Starmer does is whine he had something to eat and that’s all people are seeing from him - I doubt he’s going hungry