Wycombe vs Sunderland (2 Viewers)
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Northeast sky blue
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Living in the area I can honestly say there's a good few that dislike us
Grendel
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Six titles but three were before 1900 and the last was fairly recent in 1936
Still 89 top flight seasons
It is worth remembering ccfc were found guilty of match fixing - well Hill was
letsallsingtogether
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Enough to know they are knobs.
Had a go at me in a bar in Majorca when we were playing them first game of the season whole family trying to pick a fight with me and my 10 year old son good job we won that day they ran away with there tails between there legs.
wankers all of them.
rondog1973
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I think as late as the start of the 60's, Sunderland were the most decorated club in English football.
Gint11
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You said your reasoning for them being in the top ten in history was because they spent, within 10 clubs the most time on the top flight.
All the tables I’ve seen online from analysts and enthusiasts who look at footballing parameters do not have them on the top 10 of all time. They aren’t far off, but not in the top 10.
There is a hatred there from them. Read their forums. When I went to the 5-4 there was hatred and vitriol everywhere. It’s clearly not all of them, of course it’s not, but it’s there in some form.
rondog1973
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Terry Gibson's perm
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For the Bristol City game? Before my time so you would have to help me on that one please.
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Deleted member 9744
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Actually they have won six but when was the last one? 1936. And three of them were in the 1800s.
They all count of course unlike the Leeds ones under Don Revie, which were too long ago.
Welcome to the land of Grendel stats.
Grendel
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Guilty from the FA of “erroneously influencing the outcome of a match”
Grendel
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Ive already pointed out to you that Burnley have had more top flight seasons than Leeds?
letsallsingtogether
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They blame us for them being religated twice.
All they had to do was win the last game of the season to stay up.
Like someone else said them and Liverpool fans do feel entitled.
I say Entitled to fuck all.
Grendel
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lol rankings include global fan base and trophies won in the last 20 years
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And I am pointing out that you base your opinions on a selective use if statistics or facts.
Grendel
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not really
Johnnythespider
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Fugazi ???
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Why are Sunderland's titles in the 1800s relevant but Leeds' in 1960/1970s not?
Gint11
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Its one source I know but it’s more depth than your ‘definately top ten in the history of the game’
Gint11
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to be honest that makes more sense than your Sunderland statement.
Moff
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To be fair, I think the feelings mutual.
I'm a Coventry supporter from a family of Geordies so we aren't great fans of that part of the Northeast!
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In my lifetime Newcastle have clearly been a more successful club than Sunderland
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Sunderland's were all pre 1936!
Grendel
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Er I’m saying that I’m the context of the discussion in terms of history Burnley have been a bigger team than Leeds and they Leeds have not been a force generally for half a century and weren’t either before the revie era
It’s not hard
Grendel
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oh sorry I didn’t know the when you were born was tbd criteria
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What's with the 'er'?
Not it's not hard to see that you exclude things that don't fit your argument rather than taking a balanced or objective approach.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Grandad was from Co. Durham and went to watch both of them on alternate weekends growing up. Nothing against that part of the world at all but the comments made about Hill decades after the event were really poor taste.
Also interesting that G thinks crowd size and history should get you a free pass to higher leagues. The type that shed tears for Derby getting punished for taking the piss but thought nothing of Bury going out of existence.
Also interesting that G thinks crowd size and history should get you a free pass to higher leagues. The type that shed tears for Derby getting punished for taking the piss but thought nothing of Bury going out of existence.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Fun fact-that’s the last time a team won the top flight wearing red and white stripes
Grendel
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so the balanced approach being Burnley have had more seasons in ybe top flight and Leeds really have been an up and down team over the years
I mean let’s be honest you kept yabbering on about Jodi Jones claiming I knew what robins was thinking - you hardly had to be a mind reader to conclude that robins thought Jones was rubbish
Grendel
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again where have I said a free pass - you do make things up
Brighton Sky Blue
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You just seem a bit disappointed that league tables don’t go in order of attendance or the Grendel ‘big club’ rank
Grendel
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No I think a lot on here call clubs like Bournemouth tin pot. Don’t think I have
But given a choice you’d want surely a Sunderland than a Wycombe - the main difference this season has been the atmosphere generating partly by big away followings - was there anything more depressing than games against FGR and Bury when two men and a dog turned up?