Do you want to discuss boring politics? (23 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

PVA thinks Starmer is a great orator - he is im agreeing with him

Forensic is the word isn't it? Hope he's as fluent as he is here

 

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[Grendel]

What evidence is there that they would?
When a Labour shadow cabinet doesn't get behind workers striking for a below the rate of inflation pay rise in a cost of living crisis that's bad enough, when they don't get behind workers trying to get a 10 percent reduction in their wages that was introduced during the pandemic reinstated then that strongly suggests they are not the party of the working man as far as I'm concerned.

please don’t talk serious politics just say “Tory gonna Tory vote labour”

 

[Grendel]

Grendel right now pretending that he's totally OK with his beloved party eating themselves alive and the prospect of Starmer (who he doesn't care about yet posts about all day every day) leading the country

Going back to the education discussion you truly are a fine example of the modern state education system

 

[PVA]

Going back to the education discussion you truly are a fine example of the modern state education system

You can't spell, have no grasp of proper grammar or punctuation and think it's perfectly acceptable to call people 'Mr Retard'.

It's not my education that's failed.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I want someone else to get me through this
Semi-skimmed kinda life, Keir, Keir
I want someone else, I'm not listening when you say don't striiiike

 

[Grendel]

You can't spell, have no grasp of proper grammar or punctuation and think it's perfectly acceptable to call people 'Mr Retard'.

It's not my education that's failed.

To be fair you also are a great orator - incredible depth of knowledge as well - have you read the book I suggested on Starmer yet? What’s your thoughts?

Regarding the retard comment I’d be careful - a lot of your left wing chums have used that - are you going to send them to a special place?

 

[Grendel]

I want someone else to get me through this
Semi-skimmed kinda life, Keir, Keir
I want someone else, I'm not listening when you say don't striiiike

PVA can you come up with a song for the great orator

 

[PVA]

 

[shmmeee]

“The soft left of the Labour Party and the hard right of the Tories are the same thing actually” - Sensible Politics

 

[PVA]

To be fair you also are a great orator - incredible depth of knowledge as well - have you read the book I suggested on Starmer yet? What’s your thoughts?

Regarding the retard comment I’d be careful - a lot of your left wing chums have used that - are you going to send them to a special place?

Put the sherry down you weirdo.

 

[Grendel]

You could clean up at the bookies with that! Are you putting money on it?

 

[Grendel]

Put the sherry down you weirdo.

have you read the book? Interested in your thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Can't you two find an open fire to wrestle in front of?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

PVA can you come up with a song for the great orator

The (Not Too Much Please) Spice Girls

If you want my future forget my past,
If you wanna get with me better make it fast,
Now don't go near that picket line,
Get the milks in we could be just fine

 

[PVA]

You could clean up at the bookies with that! Are you putting money on it?

What are you on about?

Just thought it was interesting and surprising that Tory members have Mordaunt and Badenoch as the top two.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Honestly thought this was a comedian doing a bit but the punchline never arrived, turns out he’s a serious nobody

Cushty

And I will be putting up the one of him falling through the bar when his leadership bid ends. Which may well be the next post in this thread.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What are you on about?

Just thought it was interesting and surprising that Tory members have Mordaunt and Badenoch as the top two.

The Mordaunt launch video featured about 10 seconds of her and the rest gushing nonsense

 

[PVA]

The Mordaunt launch video featured about 10 seconds of her and the rest gushing nonsense

It was a flag shaggers dream for sure. No wonder the Tory members are so keen.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was a flag shaggers dream for sure. No wonder the Tory members are so keen.

The candidate herself hardly featured-nobody is that gullible surely?

 

[PVA]

The candidate herself hardly featured-nobody is that gullible surely?

These people got duped by a big red bus mate

 

[skybluetony176]

The candidate herself hardly featured-nobody is that gullible surely?

More than Jonnie Peacock now. And Oscar Pistorius. Only one of them didn’t want to be associated with the Tories. I’ll give you a clue. It wasn’t the murderer.

 

[clint van damme]

“The soft left of the Labour Party and the hard right of the Tories are the same thing actually” - Sensible Politics

There's nothing sensible about what's going on at the moment.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

More than Jonnie Peacock now. And Oscar Pistorius. Only one of them didn’t want to be associated with the Tories. I’ll give you a clue. It wasn’t the murderer.

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[David O'Day]

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He asked to be taken out the video stating "anyone but blue"

 

[skybluetony176]

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They put coverage of Jonnie Peacock winning gold at the para Olympics on her promotion video and he said take it down so they had to. It also had an image of Oscar Pistorius congratulating Jonnie.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I genuinely can't work this out. What are her 'critics' actually upset about? Too transphobic or not transphobic enough?

PM hopeful Penny Mordaunt is 'liberty lioness' and no 'woke warrior' insist Tory MP supporters | Daily Mail Online

 

[shmmeee]

Interesting spreadsheet of announced policy for each candidate so far

 

[skybluetony176]

Interesting spreadsheet of announced policy for each candidate so far

Nothing on levelling up, aside from Javid, who isn’t going to win. Or get to the final 2.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Im really on the fence about grammars. I think a lot of good kids get ruined by state education in poor areas, but equally I’m not sure about pushing the already poorer areas even further behind (which is unquestionably what selective schools do to those around them).

Sticking with my policy of comprehensive to 13 and selective/specialist 14-19.

Selective is fine, if you stop this perception of it being two tier - 'good' people in the grammars, 'bad' people in the comps. All it proves is that a set of kids are studious. It doesn't mean the others cannot lead productive lives, just they'll have a different route to what is perceived as the one to success.

There are kids who would be conscientious, honest and hard-working but not 'intelligent' that then get lumped in with those who just want to be disruptive and at schools that would likely attract poorer teachers, and they'll fall even further behind through no fault of their own effort.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Levelling up doesn’t seem to be on anyones agenda either. Zahawi now trying to backtrack saying he was talking about 20% of personnel not budget. Not sure how that’s going to go down in places like Middlesbrough where the biggest employer is the civil service.

All I’m hearing is a return to austerity, because that worked last time.

It's depressing so far. Nothing but regurgitated nonsense that never works yet for some reason keeps getting tried.

I know they're appealing to the members who'll have a warped sense of priorities focused on:
1. Cutting taxes (esp. for the rich as they're most worthy)
2. Cutting spending (esp.on services used by the poor)
3. Cutting immigration

As much as I'd like to think it's them reading the room you feel that they are genuinely just mentalists who believe in it as well.

 

[David O'Day]

they are all really shit, 2019 decimated that party

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's depressing so far. Nothing but regurgitated nonsense that never works yet for some reason keeps getting tried.

I know they're appealing to the members who'll have a warped sense of priorities focused on:
1. Cutting taxes (esp. for the rich as they're most worthy)
2. Cutting spending (esp.on services used by the poor)
3. Cutting immigration

As much as I'd like to think it's them reading the room you feel that they are genuinely just mentalists who believe in it as well.

Well I mean you saw it on here with those calling Johnson 'not a real Tory' because he spoke about wanting to spend money on infrastructure and 'the North'.

 

[wingy]

The state of this fucking idiot



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Too many property guru's / landlords now that don't need to work .
This is what you get when you skew the policy .
The big quit post pandemic.
Pensionable age increased to 75 , school leavers age stopped to 13/14.

 

[skybluetony176]

Got a feeling that all these candidates are quite capable of losing the red wall back to Labour and losing blue seats to the Lib Dems. I’ll give Javid some credit for telling it how it is, I don’t think he was scaremongering earlier and I think he’ll actually be the Tories best chance against labour.

 

[David O'Day]

Got a feeling that all these candidates are quite capable of losing the red wall back to Labour and losing blue seats to the Lib Dems. I’ll give Javid some credit for telling it how it is, I don’t think he was scaremongering earlier and I think he’ll actually be the Tories best chance against labour.

none of them keep the red wall and apart from javid, sunak and tugenhat they all lose southern seats to the lib dems