Ian1779
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Yeah like 5% VAT Reduction… viva la revolution!!
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David O'Day
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he was warned
David O'Day
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no the windfall tax but let's not let truth get in the way either
Brighton Sky Blue
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His interview on GMB was bang on-so of course he’s binned off
Ian1779
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Nothing says real leadership than behaving like a cock.
shmmeee
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Blairite scum:
As you’re not forthcoming I’ve been looking and I can find:
- Covid tiers
- The above welfare cap (Corbyn also abstained)
- FSM Lords bill which wasn’t even whipped but was a huge bill involving all sorts of stuff. And Labour we’re working on another policy.
I mean either you accept abstention as a valid tool in Parliament for divisive bills and sidestepping opposition traps, or you end up arguing Corbyn and Whittome are third way Blairite snakes:
Jeremy Corbyn suffers major Brexit rebellion as 64 Labour MPs defy whip over customs union
Jeremy Corbyn has been hit by a major rebellion over Brexit after almost a quarter of his MPs defied the party leadership and backed remaining...
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shmmeee
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If your boss explicitly tells you not to do something very publicly and you do it anyway, what do you think would happen?
This is an SCG member making trouble and not a lot else.
Ian1779
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Starmer is a spinleless dud but you’ll back him regardless… it’s embarrassing.
Regardless of whether you like him or not the polls clearly show he's not a dud.
shmmeee
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Ill back whoever the leader is while they haven’t had a chance at a GE and are ahead in the polls. I’m not looking for a new best mate I’m looking for a Labour government.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Grendel
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Milliband was miles ahead wasnt he at one point
shmmeee
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When? You mean prior to the locals when everyone was protest voting and both main parties were in free fall?
Well regardless of why he's ahead in the polls he is, by quite a long way, so surely deserves a crack at a GE, like shmmeee says.
Seems much more sensible to get behind the Labour Party, whether you're keen on Starmer or not, and get Labour in government than snipe at absolutely everything he does and allow the Tories another 5 years because Starmer isn't the perfectly pure version of an ideal Labour leader.
His chancellor is practically a Tory
So not a Tory then. Good.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If I remember rightly Cameron was half expecting to lose
Grendel
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Shadow ministers question Labour’s stance on strikes after Tarry sacking | Labour | The Guardian
Labour MP removed from role as shadow transport minister after ignoring warning not to join picket lines
Brighton Sky Blue
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Starmer has given me more reasons not to vote for him than to vote for him. Thus far he’s
Laughed at my profession
Laughed at industrial action in a Labour stronghold
Agreed on air that young people are wasters
Cancelled his pledge to stand with unions-along with all the others he made to win the leadership
Sacked people from the shadow cabinet for the crime of going to a picket
Add in to the bargain that my local Labour MP ignores correspondence and has also ignored local requests from RMT members to go to a picket, you tell me why I should vote for them. If the answer is ‘they’re not Tories’, it’s probably not going to be enough to hold at an election.
Grendel
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Dont worry he will get rid of that if it upsets the Middle classes in Surrey
Brighton Sky Blue
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Do you consider the current Labour poll lead to be a protest against Johnson or tangible support for Starmer?
Grendel
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its clearly got fuck all to do with Starmer he’s the IDS of the left (sorry slightly right)
Not remotely true given I've voted for 3 different parties in the 4 elections I've voted in.
And it's a bit rich coming from you given you quite literally did vote for a steaming dog turd at the last election because he had a blue tie on.
Not to mention the behaviour and criminality you're willing to ignore as long as they wear a blue tie.
shmmeee
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OK mate, let’s make one of your favourite bets. If a Labour govenrment ever proposes banning striking and stripping workers rights to the level of the current Tory government, I’ll donate £1000 to the charity of your choice. Hell, make it £10,000
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Brighton Sky Blue
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He keeps bringing up the Wakefield by election which was about the textbook example of a protest vote. Genuinely the guy he’s just sacked showed more gumption and passion in that GMB segment than Starmer has in 3 years
Grendel
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Tell you what let’s change that slightly. If the tories introduce any such legislation in the next two years would you pay it if Starmer doesn’t repeal it?