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no_loyalty

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Fully deserved win, and I genuinely hope this England team can mount a serious challenge.

Hopefully, we’ve seen the last of Bale, Ramsay, Moore and all the other jobbers in this Welsh team. Page should really be moved on, and I’d really appreciate it if the BBC didn’t ask Ashley Williams to provide any more ‘insights’ on MOTD in the future.
On the England side, no more Mason Mount please.
 

Liquid Gold

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A winter tournament is a bit shit though.

I went to a club that had a fan park type thing today and it was great but everybody clears home after cos it’s freezing. It just doesn’t have the whole atmosphere of the World Cup around the country because everybody is wrapped up and cold.

If this was a summer eve people would be buzzing
 

Otis

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A winter tournament is a bit shit though.

I went to a club that had a fan park type thing today and it was great but everybody clears home after cos it’s freezing. It just doesn’t have the whole atmosphere of the World Cup around the country because everybody is wrapped up and cold.

If this was a summer eve people would be buzzing
No, this is England. Everyone would have been wrapped up and cold.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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A winter tournament is a bit shit though.

I went to a club that had a fan park type thing today and it was great but everybody clears home after cos it’s freezing. It just doesn’t have the whole atmosphere of the World Cup around the country because everybody is wrapped up and cold.

If this was a summer eve people would be buzzing
Reduces the minor riots and drunken brawls in the bad weather - the local police will undoubtedly be happier.
 

rob9872

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Just heard Bellingham's post match interview. So level headed, great vocab, top interview. Not the usual footballer crap. Incredible at 19, future captain material for sure and seems a really decent lad too and family keep him grounded. Could have another genuine star on our hands.
 

MusicDating

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'The BBC, which has first pick of the semi-finals, is sharing television coverage of the tournament in the UK with ITV, which has first and second picks in the last 16 and first pick of the quarter-finals.'

Looks like ITV for both the last 16 and 1/4 finals...😬
 

Alkhen

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Funny AF coming on here reading this thread after the game has finishe. Exact the same as a Cov matchday thread. So much negativity until a goal goes in then it flips on a dime 😂

Decent display from England, broke down a super negative Welsh team. Bizarre tactics from them considering they needed 4 goals.

All in all that was professional group stage. After battering Iran the middle game was all about not losing, wasn't great but worked out ok.

I think we'll do better against teams like Senegal who aren't set up to defend for 90 mins. England look way better breaking on teams which is hard to do when the likes of Wales don't commit anyone forward.
 

Otis

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Funny AF coming on here reading this thread after the game has finishe. Exact the same as a Cov matchday thread. So much negativity until a goal goes in then it flips on a dime 😂

Decent display from England, broke down a super negative Welsh team. Bizarre tactics from them considering they needed 4 goals.

All in all that was professional group stage. After battering Iran the middle game was all about not losing, wasn't great but worked out ok.

I think we'll do better against teams like Senegal who aren't set up to defend for 90 mins. England look way better breaking on teams which is hard to do when the likes of Wales don't commit anyone forward.
Yup. I thought we were fine in the first half, though a little too unadventurous. Wales just didn't come out of their own half for the most part, which made it a little tougher to get round the back, but we were comfortable and well in control.

It was a little dull to watch, but I was quite happy at the interval. Only ever one team was going to win that match last night. Wales were ridiculously negative.
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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Funny AF coming on here reading this thread after the game has finishe. Exact the same as a Cov matchday thread. So much negativity until a goal goes in then it flips on a dime 😂

Decent display from England, broke down a super negative Welsh team. Bizarre tactics from them considering they needed 4 goals.

All in all that was professional group stage. After battering Iran the middle game was all about not losing, wasn't great but worked out ok.

I think we'll do better against teams like Senegal who aren't set up to defend for 90 mins. England look way better breaking on teams which is hard to do when the likes of Wales don't commit anyone forward.
Interesting POV, Alkhen, although that in itself was incredibly negative.

However, i have a nasty feeling that England can only play front-foot, free-flowing football against mediocre opposition, which is why we finish top of the qualifying group. Faced with a half-way-decent side (if you can describe USA that highly), Southgate and the players are utterly clueless as to how to break them down.
People praising certain players to the skies (e.g. Maguire, who had zero defending to do, and Walker who allegedly didn't touch the ball all game) is getting a bit ahead of ourselves!

Maybe he HAS found the right combination, and i look forward to standing corrected in a couple of weeks, but it will be interesting to see who he fields against Senegal. I think we can win against them, but if we face France in the Quarters, we will have no chance.
 
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Otis

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Interesting POV, Alkhen, although that in itself was incredibly negative.

However, i have a nasty feeling that England can only play front-foot, free-flowing football against mediocre opposition, which is why we finish top of the qualifying group. Faced with a half-way-decent side (if you can describe USA that highly), Southgate and the players are utterly clueless as to how to break them down.
People praising certain players to the skies (e.g. Maguire, who had zero defending to do, and Walker who allegedly didn't touch the ball all game) is getting a bit ahead of ourselves!

Maybe he HAS found the right combination, and i look forward to standing corrected in a couple of weeks, but it will be interesting to see who he fields against Senegal. I think we can win against them, but if we face France in the Quarters, we will have no chance.
I would tend to disagree. I don't think we would have no chance. It would be a much slimmer chance though and I would expect us to lose that game.

Definitely in with a shout though, because if you get at France they do have a tendency to fall out with each other and fall apart at times

We would definitely have a chance, but France would be out and out favourites to win.
 

Otis

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They’re really clinging on to this “England were better than us in the second half” thing…
They should actually be saying all three teams were all better than us in all halves of all matches to be honest.

Just a little flutter of life against the US.

Expect Page to sugar coat it, but there's a world of difference between I'm proud of my prayers and we were outstanding isn't there.
 

Tommo1993

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They should actually be saying all three teams were all better than us in all halves of all matches to be honest.

Just a little flutter of life against the US.

Expect Page to sugar coat it, but there's a world of difference between I'm proud of my prayers and we were outstanding isn't there.

England dominated the first half and did nothing with it. England dominated in the second half and absolutely lashed us.

…is what should’ve been said.
 

PVA

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The first half was really poor, much better in the second.

Wales were absolutely dreadful though, just abysmal.

Turns out Phil Foden is quite good at football, who knew!
 

Joy Division

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Just heard Bellingham's post match interview. So level headed, great vocab, top interview. Not the usual footballer crap. Incredible at 19, future captain material for sure and seems a really decent lad too and family keep him grounded. Could have another genuine star on our hands.

Going to a fee-paying £6,000 a term school should buy anyone a great vocab. But agree, nice refreshing change from the usual post-match interviews.
 

Alkhen

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Interesting POV, Alkhen, although that in itself was incredibly negative.

However, i have a nasty feeling that England can only play front-foot, free-flowing football against mediocre opposition, which is why we finish top of the qualifying group. Faced with a half-way-decent side (if you can describe USA that highly), Southgate and the players are utterly clueless as to how to break them down.
People praising certain players to the skies (e.g. Maguire, who had zero defending to do, and Walker who allegedly didn't touch the ball all game) is getting a bit ahead of ourselves!

Maybe he HAS found the right combination, and i look forward to standing corrected in a couple of weeks, but it will be interesting to see who he fields against Senegal. I think we can win against them, but if we face France in the Quarters, we will have no chance.

Im not getting ahead of myself though, All Im saying is I belive we will look better against teams that dont just sit back. On paper I agree France should be too much for us but I dont think it will be a mauling and there is a chance we can cause an upset. Who knows who france will be playing in the round of 16, they could have a very tough match.

I also belive the USA game was an outlier, Southgate is so bloody conservative. Feels like he drummed into them 'Just dont lose and we are through' was very simlar to the Scotland game at the Euros. Plenty of teams have huffed and puffed in their second games, sneaking late goals or loseing so Im not too concerned about that.

I am worried about the defence coming up a real attacking threat but only time will tell. Id imagine we'd be playing two holding players in Rice and Phillips by that point.
 

MusicDating

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Im not getting ahead of myself though, All Im saying is I belive we will look better against teams that dont just sit back. On paper I agree France should be too much for us but I dont think it will be a mauling and there is a chance we can cause an upset. Who knows who france will be playing in the round of 16, they could have a very tough match.

I also belive the USA game was an outlier, Southgate is so bloody conservative. Feels like he drummed into them 'Just dont lose and we are through' was very simlar to the Scotland game at the Euros. Plenty of teams have huffed and puffed in their second games, sneaking late goals or loseing so Im not too concerned about that.

I am worried about the defence coming up a real attacking threat but only time will tell. Id imagine we'd be playing two holding players in Rice and Phillips by that point.

I'd said before, I see similarities between Southgate and Robins. Both conservative, keep possession and rather not lose managers.

England are a top 8 side, so going out in the quarters against another top 8 side (France probably top 2 tbh) wouldn't be a disgrace. As long as it's not a tepid 0-1 where we passed it around for 80 mins and they score with their first shot on target...
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Not at his best, but still vital in his build-up play and in setting up others.

Last night he set up Foden for the second and put Rashford clean through on goal too.

Almost feel like you could play Wilson up top and Kane behind him, threading passes as well as being a goal threat. Won't happen of course.
 

Liquid Gold

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Haven't read all the posts, but I was really impressed with Callum Wilson when he came on. High work rate, and linked well with others. Made a right nuisance of himself.
As someone who doesn’t watch loads of premier league the way Wilson has developed his game has really impressed me.

He was a proper speed merchant with us but he’s now great in tight spaces and incredibly unselfish in the penalty box.
 

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