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TomRad85

TomRad85

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aaanyway, all i said was its a good interview if anyone wants to give it a watch and that i thought the World Cup had been decent so far. didn't think i'd have to start defending myself Samurai style but here we are :ROFLMAO:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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TomRad85 said:
Absolutely not, i don't use lefty buzz words we've established this. Some might think its Islamophobic, i personally couldn't give a monkeys, its just your opinion. I'm just asking if you think its a good idea for a Muslim majority country to host a World Cup, as nearly all will hold these views? If the answer is no because they are all homophobes (does that trump islamophobia?) thats fine.
All i'm saying is i have reassessed my opinion, having also thought it was a bad idea... i actually think its important. That's all, not fighting you.
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There’s countries with homophobic attitudes and there’s countries who make it a criminal offence to be LGBT. If it’s in the latter and you’re comfortable telling a not insignificant % of people that they should go back in the closet if they want to go to a tournament then fine, I’m not. Drinking alcohol is a personal choice, sexuality isn’t.

You also keep avoiding that the tournament wasn’t awarded to give different cultures a turn, it was because they bribed FIFA.
 
TomRad85

TomRad85

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
There’s countries with homophobic attitudes and there’s countries who make it a criminal offence to be LGBT. If it’s in the latter and you’re comfortable telling a not insignificant % of people that they should go back in the closet if they want to go to a tournament then fine, I’m not. Drinking alcohol is a personal choice, sexuality isn’t.

You also keep avoiding that the tournament wasn’t awarded to give different cultures a turn, it was because they bribed FIFA.
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I'm not avoiding anything, they probably did bride, as did Russia. Not a great look but here we are.
 
TomRad85

TomRad85

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
No probably about it. I do genuinely find it interesting how little it takes to look past some serious issues
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What are you going to do about those issues? The World Cup is literally happening right now, you're not going to stop it. I assume you're watching it? So anyway which Muslim country do we hold it in if we want it to be a proper global game? We've established being gay needs to be legal, ok thats fine, makes sense... only one i can see that would be capable of holding a World Cup would be Turkey but they've been written off as a bunch of thugs so i'm not sure where we go from there...
 
TomRad85

TomRad85

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Morocco easily best team in this group. Croatia and Belgium both in very similar situations, desperate for some youth to come through.

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TomRad85

TomRad85

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SBT said:
What is “the left wing relationship with Islam”?
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Afraid of criticising their behaviour within this country as they are a minority and minorities are untouchable. But then criticise them for how they act in their own countries and essentially tell them they need to think more like us. Its completely back to front nonsense.

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TomRad85 said:
Afraid of criticising their behaviour within this country as they are a minority and minorities are untouchable. But then criticise them for how they act in their own countries and essentially tell them they need to think more like us. Its completely back to front nonsense.

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Errrm, I believe the main problem 'us lot' have is lumping everyone into one box - me with BSB for example.

So if you decide 'Muslims are bad' because of an incident, then that is a ridiculous and pretty racist thing to say. If, however, you say 'that Muslim is bad' you're getting there, but still stigmitising for no real reason. There's a higher standard put out for a normal, everyday person to need to disassociate themselves from others, which isn't held elsewhere. I don't need to distance myself from neo-nazi gun toting maniacs in the same way, for example. However, I do need to with some, it seems, need to disassociate myself from Pol Pot - rather different than needing to say I'm not General Pinochet.

So, in this world cup, it's the Qatari state at fault, I don't really care what faith they are. At the same time, I'm not going to call for an outright ban because F1, for example, shouldn't go in for sportswashing either, in search of the easy pound or dollar. People go and work in such countries for a tax free salary, and then drink in underground places where the authorities turn a blind eye, which doesn't sit right to me either, but I'm not going to stand with a placard for any of that. I do reserve the right to note the feebleness of us not wearing an armband compared to Iranians not singing their national anthem, however...

As it happens, I've not thought much of the WC for all the reasons stated, including winter, but philosophically it's our time to have a world cup out of season maybe - African Nations Cup runs in our season after all, and the world doesn't revolve around us. Since Mexico 86 and Italia 90 they've got progressively sanitised anyway, so it's an event rather than a passion - maybe this is the extension of that.

Anyway, am only entering this because of the 'you lot' really. I can be an individual with my own view, and not be caricatured by one of you lot. You're entitled to say it's not been too bad a one, but somebody was always going to make an obvious comeback - how about just answering that person instead of making it a sweeping judgement against all lefties or whatever.

And with that... Belgium are shit, aren't they.
 
Otis

Otis

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Errrm, I believe the main problem 'us lot' have is lumping everyone into one box - me with BSB for example.

So if you decide 'Muslims are bad' because of an incident, then that is a ridiculous and pretty racist thing to say. If, however, you say 'that Muslim is bad' you're getting there, but still stigmitising for no real reason. There's a higher standard put out for a normal, everyday person to need to disassociate themselves from others, which isn't held elsewhere. I don't need to distance myself from neo-nazi gun toting maniacs in the same way, for example. However, I do need to with some, it seems, need to disassociate myself from Pol Pot - rather different than needing to say I'm not General Pinochet.

So, in this world cup, it's the Qatari state at fault, I don't really care what faith they are. At the same time, I'm not going to call for an outright ban because F1, for example, shouldn't go in for sportswashing either, in search of the easy pound or dollar. People go and work in such countries for a tax free salary, and then drink in underground places where the authorities turn a blind eye, which doesn't sit right to me either, but I'm not going to stand with a placard for any of that. I do reserve the right to note the feebleness of us not wearing an armband compared to Iranians not singing their national anthem, however...

As it happens, I've not thought much of the WC for all the reasons stated, including winter, but philosophically it's our time to have a world cup out of season maybe - African Nations Cup runs in our season after all, and the world doesn't revolve around us. Since Mexico 86 and Italia 90 they've got progressively sanitised anyway, so it's an event rather than a passion - maybe this is the extension of that.

Anyway, am only entering this because of the 'you lot' really. I can be an individual with my own view, and not be caricatured by one of you lot. You're entitled to say it's not been too bad a one, but somebody was always going to make an obvious comeback - how about just answering that person instead of making it a sweeping judgement against all lefties or whatever.

And with that... Belgium are shit, aren't they.
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Yeah, it's the one thing that sticks in my throat too. The "you lot."

I am an individual.

I will now button it. 🤐
 
TomRad85

TomRad85

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Errrm, I believe the main problem 'us lot' have is lumping everyone into one box - me with BSB for example.

So if you decide 'Muslims are bad' because of an incident, then that is a ridiculous and pretty racist thing to say. If, however, you say 'that Muslim is bad' you're getting there, but still stigmitising for no real reason. There's a higher standard put out for a normal, everyday person to need to disassociate themselves from others, which isn't held elsewhere. I don't need to distance myself from neo-nazi gun toting maniacs in the same way, for example.

So, in this world cup, it's the Qatari state at fault, I don't really care what faith they are. At the same time, I'm not going to call for an outright ban because F1, for example, shouldn't go in for sportswashing either, in search of the easy pound or dollar. People go and work in such countries for a tax free salary, and then drink in underground places where the authorities turn a blind eye, which doesn't sit right to me either, but I'm not going to stand with a placard for any of that. I do reserve the right to note the feebleness of us not wearing an armband compared to Iranians not singing their national anthem, however...

As it happens, I've not thought much of the WC for all the reasons stated, including winter, but philosophically it's our time to have a world cup out of season maybe - African Nations Cup runs in our season after all, and the world doesn't revolve around us. Since Mexico 86 and Italia 90 they've got progressively sanitised anyway, so it's an event rather than a passion - maybe this is the extension of that.

Anyway, am only entering this because of the 'you lot' really. I can be an individual with my own view, and not be caricatured by one of you lot. You're entitled to say it's not been too bad a one, but somebody was always going to make an obvious comeback - how about just answering that person instead of making it a sweeping judgement against all lefties or whatever.

And with that... Belgium are shit, aren't they.
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I mean there's a whole thread pretty much dedicated to moaning about Conservative shit so I think 'you lot' will get over a throw away comment.

The Qatari state is Muslim, you can't separate the 2. Religion is more important than nationality in that part of the world. I'm not even hating on them, I'm saying it's important a Muslim country gets the WC but no one wants to say which country they would be ok with having it in. Could you answer that out of interest?

And yes, Belgium are fucking awful.

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There are some countries I have a totally irrational liking for, and Belgium is one. Maybe it's World Cup 86 and seeing them undone by Maradona too.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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Some of them are having multiple games per day aren't they. Not surprised they are cutting up a bit.

I think now the group stages are coming to a close they'll recover though. Enough sun out there so as long as they water them they should recover quickly.
 
Frostie

Frostie

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Otis said:
Not the ref though. The VAR official. What the hell was he doing referring it back to the ref?

It's either offside or it's not.
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The technology will confirm if Lovren is in an offside position but that in itself isn't an offence, only the referee can decide that i.e. if he's interfering etc.
 
Saddlebrains

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Lukaku has put in one of the worst performances ive ever seen

3 Absolutely clear cut harder to miss than score opportunities blown
 
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