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[clint van damme]

My grammar is not the best 2 people have picked me up in the last 24 hours but I'm just going to be honest and say I really don't care

When there are people on here claiming the worldcup is fixed a bit of iffy grammar is the least of our worries.

 

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[Deleted member 9744]

He's always been a better player , was never the argument.

Messi has 11 goals in 26 games

Basitstuta 10 in 12

Before the World Cup Messi had 6 goals in 19 games

My argument was valid

Messi has been very good this WC

Messi is not just a striker unlike Batistuta. He has played as a forward at times but often as a midfielder/winger. Goals scored is not a measure of who is the better player in this case.

 

[TomRad85]

Messi is easily one of the top 5 players of all time. Batistuta is one of my personal favourite out and out strikers. What are you lot arguing exactly?
All enjoying the World Cup?

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[Deleted member 9744]

Messi is easily one of the top 5 players of all time. Batistuta is one of my personal favourite out and out strikers. What are you lot arguing exactly?
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I think he is in the top 3.

I would say Maradona is number 1. Number 2 is either Messi or Pele and as I didn't see Pele I cannot judge.

 

[SBT]

My grammar is not the best 2 people have picked me up in the last 24 hours but I'm just going to be honest and say I really don't care

I didn’t mean your grammar! I meant your habit of putting asterisks on the achievements of modern players for various reasons.

 

[Evo1883]

I've never really said Messi isn't a great player ? People just want me to blindly say he's been great for the argies when up until the last 18 months he was anything but .

 

[Evo1883]

There's bloody articles on it

 

[TomRad85]

I think he is in the top 3.

I would say Maradona is number 1. Number 2 is either Messi or Pele and as I didn't see Pele I cannot judge.

Me too but I was just stretching it to top 5 to lessen the chances of having to debate it.

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[Evo1883]

That being said , he's been brilliant for them through the copa America and this WC .

He's definitely in the top 3/5 of all time

 

[TomRad85]

I've never really said Messi isn't a great player ? People just want me to blindly say he's been great for the argies when up until the last 18 months he was anything but .

I agree with you, he's been poor in World Cups for some reason, up to now anyway. Even the one where he randomly got player of the tournament (I think) was dubious.

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

That being said , he's been brilliant for them through the copa America and this WC .

He's definitely in the top 3/5 of all time

I don't even think he's been that good in this world cup. Scored an abundance of penalties and done a few skills against generally very weak opponents.

The pundits will have you believe it's his tournament though. Falls over his shoe laces and it is deemed world class. I find it off-putting.

 

[Nick]

It's like "Wayne Rooney's Derby County".

 

[Sick Boy]

In Napoli at the moment, was tempted to take a picture of a Maradona shrine to send @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 over the edge.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

In Napoli at the moment, was tempted to take a picture of a Maradona shrine to send @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 over the edge.

Was the shrine you're talking about a packet of white powder by any chance?

 

[LastGarrison]

I’ve still got 5 French players in my WC Dream Team so……..Vive la France!!

 

[SBAndy]

I agree with you, he's been poor in World Cups for some reason, up to now anyway. Even the one where he randomly got player of the tournament (I think) was dubious.

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Part of it will be down to coaching ability. Past teams full of stars but with seemingly no plan to play to any of their strengths. He’s fortunate that a lot of the current Argentina players are basically workhorses who complement his style well. On face value, Lautaro Martinez should be ahead of Alvarez in the running but he wouldn’t ‘fit’ what they’re trying to do.

I think he is in the top 3.

I would say Maradona is number 1. Number 2 is either Messi or Pele and as I didn't see Pele I cannot judge.

Top 1. Regardless of whether he wins the World Cup to be honest.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Part of it will be down to coaching ability. Past teams full of stars but with seemingly no plan to play to any of their strengths. He’s fortunate that a lot of the current Argentina players are basically workhorses who complement his style well. On face value, Lautaro Martinez should be ahead of Alvarez in the running but he wouldn’t ‘fit’ what they’re trying to do.



Top 1. Regardless of whether he wins the World Cup to be honest.

No 1 of the current generation of players without a doubt. I think you are a lot younger than me. Did you see Maradona at his peak?

 

[JAM See]

No 1 of the current generation of players without a doubt. I think you are a lot younger than me. Did you see Maradona at his peak?

I still think Zidane gets overlooked in this debate.

I was 19 in '86 and thought Maradona was the best player I'd ever seen. I still believe that.

Since then, I'd put Zizou over either Messi or Ronaldo.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I still think Zidane gets overlooked in this debate.

I was 19 in '86 and thought Maradona was the best player I'd ever seen. I still believe that.

Since then, I'd put Zizou over either Messi or Ronaldo.

You must be similar age and I agree on Maradona.

Zidane probably fifth in my view. Agree he was a fantastic player.

 

[JAM See]

You must be similar age and I agree on Maradona.

Zidane probably fifth in my view. Agree he was a fantastic player.

I'm too young to have seen Cruyff, Pele, Matthews. Best etc.

I came of age in the early eighties.

My top five would be...

Maradona
Zidane
Messi
Suarez
Dublin

 

[Otis]

Oh. Anyone think this may end up a whitewash?

 

[Tommo1993]

Expected. The French will win it. Gutted, I think we’d have a field day against these once we got going.

 

[chiefdave]

Exactly the start Morocco didn't want. France look well up for this. what's the biggest semi final win in a World Cup?

 

[Otis]

Expected. The French will win it.

Awful start for Morocco. Very hard now to get back into the game

 

[Nick]

May as well just fucking hand them it.

 

[Sick Boy]

I liked how the Morocco manager suddenly became overly passionate once he realised the cameras were on him during the anthem.

 

[JAM See]

Is Mbappe playing?

 

[Nick]

Surely going by the Argentina game that's a Moroccan penalty?

 

[David O'Day]

Surely going by the Argentina game that's a Moroccan penalty?

Certainly not a yellow card for the Moroccan player

 

[Nick]

Certainly not a yellow card for the Moroccan player

Did VAR even look?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Argentina (in particular) and France have had a relatively unchallenged route to the final.

Either shit teams beating the better competition clearing the way, better teams not turning up, or some officiating which has been extremely questionable. For the latter alone, it's been a farce.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Harsh yellow I think, Morocco have to score the next goal, if the French go two up it could get embarrassing

 

[Tommo1993]

Surely going by the Argentina game that's a Moroccan penalty?

He didn’t have the right name on his back…

 

[David O'Day]

Argentina could have a field day against this French defence

 

[Otis]

This is far too easy for France. Morocco have been disappointing