Wasps downward spiral... (21 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

solihull?

You got some inside info Nick?!

 

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[Flying Fokker]

It’s on the Solihull moors fans forum. Concerns about the pitch of course. Looked yesterday so it’s been muted for a few days.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Solihull Moors :: Main chat :: Wasps | Runboard

Wasps new home 'set to be in Solihull' as takeover completed

The Telegraph newspaper said the new owners of the former European champions had chosen to relocate

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[duffer]

It looks like Wasps are on a mission to make Millwall look popular. Is there anyone they've not pissed off yet?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

That Nelly on there saying they will have money to get in a new pitch I hope they have to pay up front.

I hope Solihull are very careful as our former landlords don’t have a great reputation for paying for things and before they know it the Solihull players will have to change in their cars as the chasers will be demanding the changing rooms etc.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

That Nelly on there saying they will have money to get in a new pitch I hope they have to pay up front.

I hope Solihull are very careful as our former landlords don’t have a great reputation for paying for things and before they know it the Solihull players will have to change in their cars as the chasers will be demanding the changing rooms etc.

They only have to look at the facts:
1) QPR fans don’t like them
2) Wycombe Fans don’t like them
3) we detest them

We’ve not been great tenants but there’s only 1 constant in those quibbles and it isn’t us or SISU

I hope they don’t throw their weight around to Solihull

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

That Nelly on there saying they will have money to get in a new pitch I hope they have to pay up front.

I hope Solihull are very careful as our former landlords don’t have a great reputation for paying for things and before they know it the Solihull players will have to change in their cars as the chasers will be demanding the changing rooms etc.

The one thing that Nelly does acknowledge but other wasps fans don’t “they inserted themselves into a bitter dispute between us and the council”

this has always been the issue for me and the reason they get shit from us.

 

[oldfiver]

solihull?

Wasps new home 'set to be in Solihull' as takeover completed

The Telegraph newspaper said the new owners of the former European champions had chosen to relocate

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[duffer]

Six times smaller than our ground and they still won't fill it most of the time.

Wasps - fuck off down south for God's sake, and treat your real fans with some respect for once.

 

[Kneeza]

It'll be interesting to see just how this plays out.
There's an awful lot of disquiet among the clubs at level two and down, and much talk of legal action over the whole stinking affair.
Cov are the only club so far who have come out publicly about it, but there are many more who are very unhappy. Let's see what the next few weeks bring.

 

[Kneeza]

Six times smaller than our ground and they still won't fill it most of the time.

Wasps - fuck off down south for God's sake, and treat your real fans with some respect for once.

They have fucked off down south apparently.
Damson Park is at least a couple of hundred yards south of the CBSA (if you look at lines of latitude).
I'll stop now...

 

[tisza]

Exclusive: Premiership clubs 'heading for disaster' having amassed £300m in net debt

A joint investigation between Telegraph Sport and a rugby finance expert can reveal a number of clubs are financially under threat

www.telegraph.co.uk

Been saying it all along. reliance on benefactors, desperate CVC deal, bad management, lack of interest etc. Maybe Wasps fans should read this to find out where the real blame lays.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Exclusive: Premiership clubs 'heading for disaster' having amassed £300m in net debt

A joint investigation between Telegraph Sport and a rugby finance expert can reveal a number of clubs are financially under threat

www.telegraph.co.uk

Been saying it all along. reliance on benefactors, desperate CVC deal, bad management, lack of interest etc. Maybe Wasps fans should read this to find out where the real blame lays.

I am going to guess it’s all sisu and covids fault

 

[fernandopartridge]

MMM will be fuming about this assessment of Eastwood and co:

“It was a hotel, events coordinator, entertainment business and stadium which tacked on a rugby club. Multiple businesses being operated by people who were essentially rugby players, when you look at the boards, highly inexperienced and with a single individual with Derek Richardson providing funding. Not the sort of board you need to be running multiple businesses, you need the right skill-sets.

 

[Nick]

MMM will be fuming about this assessment of Eastwood and co:

Like Italia, I assume he was also on the gravy train when they first moved here.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Like Italia, I assume he was also on the gravy train when they first moved here.

Weren’t he coining it in from a car park? Wondering if he’ll be watching in solihull

 

[oldfiver]

MPs issue damning report on 'unsustainable' Gallagher Premiership club finances, after Worcester, Wasps administrations

Amid annual losses averaging £4m per Premiership club, DCMS committee said: The demise during the season of two Premiership clubs is a stain on the reputation of the RFU and PRL. It is not indicative of a healthy professional set-up. The financial situation is clearly unsustainable

www.skysports.com

 

[oldfiver]

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5803/cmselect/cmcumeds/1018/report.html#

 

[Otis]

Anyone else want to stick this on the shredder and then set fire to it?

 

[David O'Day]

Anyone else want to stick this on the shredder and then set fire to it?

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it's nonsense, none of the rugby players are drinking each others piss

 

[tisza]

MPs issue damning report on 'unsustainable' Gallagher Premiership club finances, after Worcester, Wasps administrations

Amid annual losses averaging £4m per Premiership club, DCMS committee said: The demise during the season of two Premiership clubs is a stain on the reputation of the RFU and PRL. It is not indicative of a healthy professional set-up. The financial situation is clearly unsustainable

www.skysports.com

waste of time. Could have come on our Wasps threads where exactly same conclusions were made for the last 2 years

 

[Nick]

Not sure the MP understands, he's saying the RFU should have kept Wasps alive? How?

 

[rob9872]

Not sure the MP understands, he's saying the RFU should have kept Wasps alive? How?

Perhaps by funding all of the local businesses they fkd over would be a good start

 

[napolimp]

Solihull Moors :: Main chat :: Wasps | Runboard

Wasps new home 'set to be in Solihull' as takeover completed

The Telegraph newspaper said the new owners of the former European champions had chosen to relocate

www.birminghammail.co.uk

I don't get this at all, how many can they possibly expect to turn up? And if you're getting crowds of a couple of hundred then what's the point.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I don't get this at all, how many can they possibly expect to turn up? And if you're getting crowds of a couple of hundred then what's the point.

Hopefully they struggle to recruit and get stuck in the lower league for a while and the last few will dwindle away, I hope local businesses have been watching and don’t give them any credit.

 

[Kneeza]

I don't get this at all, how many can they possibly expect to turn up? And if you're getting crowds of a couple of hundred then what's the point.

I'd be surprised if they don't get the highest crowd numbers in the division.
(And if they don't, they'll tell you they have).
Seriously, it's a low bar, with Cov and Bedford getting 2000+ and rest mostly not much over 1000.

 

[CCFC54321]

Problem is wasps fans come out in there thousands with the ‘missing you wasps’ and ‘we need you back’ shit but when it comes to paying to watch them they don’t.

I’ve never seen such a hypocritical fan base.

 

[tisza]

I'd be surprised if they don't get the highest crowd numbers in the division.
(And if they don't, they'll tell you they have).
Seriously, it's a low bar, with Cov and Bedford getting 2000+ and rest mostly not much over 1000.

There will be an initial bounce (much like us moving back to Cov) but then it will be very much based on whether they are successful or not. But Solihull just a temporary stop as impossible to stay there if they want to return and stay in the top division - capacity, corporate facilities, F&B limitations etc

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There will be an initial bounce (much like us moving back to Cov) but then it will be very much based on whether they are successful or not. But Solihull just a temporary stop as impossible to stay there if they want to return and stay in the top division - capacity, corporate facilities, F&B limitations etc

Why a bounce?

 

[tisza]

Why a bounce?

Just more than the 2k people seem to think. If they can't fill 5500 then they're in trouble again.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just more than the 2k people seem to think. If they can't fill 5500 then they're in trouble again.

Hope Solihull moors don’t get screwed

 

[Kneeza]

Why a bounce?

There'll certainly be a few newbies that used to go to Sharman's Cross Rd, curious to see what Prem rugby looks like.
And then they realise it's not Prem rugby and drift off again.
There'll also be some bloke from Nuneaton that thinks 'supporting' an American football team is cool, and will also hear nothing negative about Wasps' new, or old, owners
No doubt there will also be a decent chunk of brummies turn up too. After all, a pretty large proportion of the Wasps' Ricoh/BS 'crowd' came from thataway.
All together, I reckon they'll publish crowds of slightly more than Bedford and Cov get, whether they actually turn up or not.
So, that's the 'bounce'.
Sustainable? To an extent yes, but they'll need to get promoted sharpish and move into the Alex to accomplish that.
And I can't contemplate how crap it'll be watching in an athletics stadium (actually, I can, as I've watched RL in the Don Valley Stadium back in the early 2000s. It was awful).

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Championship leaders Ealing Trailfinders (a club whose success is built on money rather than tradition) don't generally even bother putting their attendance figures in their match reports. They say they had a "1,500 strong crowd" for their Christmas Eve match against second-placed Jersey Reds (i think they should be the Jersey Royals, myself!) - which sounds like the nicely-rounded figure a BNP protest organiser might use, when the police have it as 37!
Their game against closest rivals (and proper club) Richmond attracted 849 souls.
They are at home to Cov this Saturday.

 

[tisza]

Championship leaders Ealing Trailfinders (a club whose success is built on money rather than tradition) don't generally even bother putting their attendance figures in their match reports. They say they had a "1,500 strong crowd" for their Christmas Eve match against second-placed Jersey Reds (i think they should be the Jersey Royals, myself!) - which sounds like the nicely-rounded figure a BNP protest organiser might use, when the police have it as 37!
Their game against closest rivals (and proper club) Richmond attracted 849 souls.
They are at home to Cov this Saturday.

Still the same model that has put so many of these clubs in trouble - rich benefactor/owner. He dies ( god forbid) or gets in financial trouble and it's all over for the rugby club.

 

[chiefdave]

Hope Solihull moors don’t get screwed

Do they play on artificial, is that allowed at that level? If not I'd be very worried about the pitch