Nonleagueherewecome
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That's fine, but it isn't in Warwickshire either!
Anyway, we lost on the last ball
Darn sight more entertaining and plucky than CCFC, though!
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That's fine, but it isn't in Warwickshire either!
Anyway, we lost on the last ball
Darn sight more entertaining and plucky than CCFC, though!
Gray
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There are no cities in Warwickshire since both Coventry and Birmingham were incorporated into the West Midlands county in 1974 and are now metropolitan authorities in themselves. The largest towns in Warwickshire as of 2004 are: Nuneaton (pop. 77,500), Rugby (62,700), Leamington Spa (45,300), and Bedworth (32,500). Stratford, Warwick, and Kenilworth all house 20,000-25,000 inhabitants, while the smaller towns of Atherstone, Alcester, Coleshill, Southam, Bulkington, Polesworth, Kingsbury, Henley-in-Arden, Studley, Shipston. Wellesbourne and Whitnash have populations between 5,000 and 12,000.
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Nonleagueherewecome
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Nonleagueherewecome
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Probably not any more, but it's where he was born.
coundonskyblue
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That's fine, but it isn't in Warwickshire either!
Anyway, we lost on the last ball
Darn sight more entertaining and plucky than CCFC, though!
I agree its not in the modern county of Warwickshire, just as its not in the West Midlands as that doesn't exist as a county anymore either.
The only thing that we can say is its in the Warwickshire area, and to me the towns of Nuneaton, Rugby & Leamington have far more in common with Coventry than Birmingham & Wolverhampton do.
RichieGunns
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This debate has been raging for year lol
Once upon a time we were part of Warwichshire County. Then some clever person said we were part of the West Midlands but had our own County Council. Then another person said we were part of Warwickshire and so forth etc.
I remember seeing an article some time back which said we are part of the West Midlands Region with our own County Council (Coventry County Council) but do not class as a county (e.g. The County of Coventry).
The West Midlands does not have a county Council (as referenced by someone earlier) but encompases several different county councils (Birmingham County Council, Wolverhampton County Council. Leamington County Council etc) within its boarders hence why we share the same bus service and why you can buy a bus ticket in Coventry and go to places like Leamington (which also figures within the West Midland boarders), Solihull, Birmingham and if i remember rightly, further afield as far as Wolverhampton (Which is also in the west midlands region) and of course all the little towns and villages around these major cities.
Another point is what our services are called:
NWM - Network West Midlands - This encompases all travel whether it be by Bus, Train or Tram (Wolverhampton for the Tram)
West Midlands Police
So you see we are part of the West Midlands and not a part of Warwickshire...we may have once upon a time but we are not now!
Once upon a time we were part of Warwichshire County. Then some clever person said we were part of the West Midlands but had our own County Council. Then another person said we were part of Warwickshire and so forth etc.
I remember seeing an article some time back which said we are part of the West Midlands Region with our own County Council (Coventry County Council) but do not class as a county (e.g. The County of Coventry).
The West Midlands does not have a county Council (as referenced by someone earlier) but encompases several different county councils (Birmingham County Council, Wolverhampton County Council. Leamington County Council etc) within its boarders hence why we share the same bus service and why you can buy a bus ticket in Coventry and go to places like Leamington (which also figures within the West Midland boarders), Solihull, Birmingham and if i remember rightly, further afield as far as Wolverhampton (Which is also in the west midlands region) and of course all the little towns and villages around these major cities.
Another point is what our services are called:
NWM - Network West Midlands - This encompases all travel whether it be by Bus, Train or Tram (Wolverhampton for the Tram)
West Midlands Police
So you see we are part of the West Midlands and not a part of Warwickshire...we may have once upon a time but we are not now!
1nilandwe...
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I can't believe this is even a debate. Look at the shape of Warwickshire on a map. There's a big, distinctive, Coventry-shaped hole in it!
I don't give a shit about councils, or police forces or whatnot. Geographically, Coventry is in the county of West Midlands.
I don't give a shit about councils, or police forces or whatnot. Geographically, Coventry is in the county of West Midlands.
Sick Boy
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Because Coventry is no longer part of the West Midlands. It is a unitary authority.
Nonleagueherewecome
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There are no cities in Warwickshire since both Coventry and Birmingham were incorporated into the West Midlands county in 1974 and are now metropolitan authorities in themselves. The largest towns in Warwickshire as of 2004 are: Nuneaton (pop. 77,500), Rugby (62,700), Leamington Spa (45,300), and Bedworth (32,500). Stratford, Warwick, and Kenilworth all house 20,000-25,000 inhabitants, while the smaller towns of Atherstone, Alcester, Coleshill, Southam, Bulkington, Polesworth, Kingsbury, Henley-in-Arden, Studley, Shipston. Wellesbourne and Whitnash have populations between 5,000 and 12,000.
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I was sorely tempted to edit the Southam wiki with comments about all inhabitants having one eye-brow and it being the trampiest town in the County. Then I read this:
"A historical curiosity about Southam is that in mediaeval times, the town minted its own local currency. This was done because local people found ordinary coins too high in value for everyday use."
So, in essence, "nooooo, your fancy rich-people money's no good here: it's far too valuable for us."
I think that covers it better than any thing I could have made up!
coundonskyblue
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But how can we be part of the West Midlands when there is no West Midlands Authority?
If we're going to use arguments like the Police then what about the Coventry & Warwickshire Ambulance service? Or Coventry & Warwickshire NHS?
Nonleagueherewecome
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Doesn't exist as a County per se, but Coventry is not in Warwickshire-and the West Midlands umbrella continues to be used for Coventry, Birmingham and much of the Black Country for many Local Authority purposes.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Agreed but you are wrong about Leamington, that's very much in Warwickshire. The reason you can use a bus ticket is because they cross County borders.
coundonskyblue
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Pre 1974 Coventry had its own Police, Fire, and Bus services, all seperate from Warwickshire.
Yet we were very much part of Warwickshire then, so how is that any different to now?
Yet we were very much part of Warwickshire then, so how is that any different to now?
Nonleagueherewecome
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This is great escapism!!
And it's the second thing we've agreed on in two days. Scary, no?
coundonskyblue
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On a football note, last season after 6 games we had 5 points, this season after 6 games we have 3.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Coventry is at the heart of the old Warwickshire, and much of Bimingham's in it too-which matters more to me than the West Midlands.
RichieGunns
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All very good points but they are a legacy left over from when we "were" part of the Warwickshire.
When applying for jobs you will always put in West Midlands because on all sites they list Coventry and Warwickshire as being based in the West Midlands
This doesn't take away the fact that Warwickshire is its own County.
Interesting fact. The term "SHIRES" goes back to the time of William the Conqurer! The county was named by selecting the city (or town) that lay at the heart of that county e.g. Lincolnshire = Lincoln , Warwickshire = Warwick, Derbyshire = Derby & Leicestershire = Leicester etc). Learnt that while i was working at Warwick Castle. Was doing my research for the King Maker exhibit lol
Another interesting fact to note is that Warwick University is actually a university of Coventry, not of Warwickshire so Coventry has two University within its boarders lol! We're a greedy lot!
Ah! I stand corrected lol
You actually have to pay a little more if your getting a single fair from Cov to Leam or vice versa. BUT if you get a regular £3.60 daysaver from Coventry, there is no extra charge lol
Doesn't work the same way if your going to Birmingham though, you have to pay an extra 20p on the daysaver (or 10p for a single) when going either way lol
I'm full of useless facts i know but hey i like it this way
lmao
Nonleagueherewecome
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I was always told that Warwick Uni called themselves that as they wanted to sound posher...
Brighton Sky Blue
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It's almost as though the word 'Coventry' diminishes what ever is put after it...
Nonleagueherewecome
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Coventry Palace.
Nah, still sounds like a crap-hole!
Nah, still sounds like a crap-hole!
RichieGunns
New Member
Coventry Rovers? - Nah that insults Land Rovers and dogs called Rover
Coventry United? - Well considering our present team we're anything BUT united lol
Coventry Rangers? - Hmm I think even Rangers would be Diminised if they were linked with Coventry in even such a small way...
coundonskyblue
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The uni was meant to be called the university of warwickshire. Think they found the whole county a bit common for them so they dropped the shire.
RichieGunns
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Most probably! Who'd WANT to be called Coventry University afterall...well apart from the actual Cov Uni itself...can you imagin it...the Coventry Arts Centre??? They'd never get any theatre wanting to come to them lol
skyblue1523
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Check postcodes cv I sure Warwick has a cv postcode hence the same
coundonskyblue
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All very good points but they are a legacy left over from when we "were" part of the Warwickshire.
When applying for jobs you will always put in West Midlands because on all sites they list Coventry and Warwickshire as being based in the West Midlands
This doesn't take away the fact that Warwickshire is its own County.
Interesting fact. The term "SHIRES" goes back to the time of William the Conqurer! The county was named by selecting the city (or town) that lay at the heart of that county e.g. Lincolnshire = Lincoln , Warwickshire = Warwick, Derbyshire = Derby & Leicestershire = Leicester etc). Learnt that while i was working at Warwick Castle. Was doing my research for the King Maker exhibit lol
Another interesting fact to note is that Warwick University is actually a university of Coventry, not of Warwickshire so Coventry has two University within its boarders lol! We're a greedy lot!
Ah! I stand corrected lol
You actually have to pay a little more if your getting a single fair from Cov to Leam or vice versa. BUT if you get a regular £3.60 daysaver from Coventry, there is no extra charge lol
Doesn't work the same way if your going to Birmingham though, you have to pay an extra 20p on the daysaver (or 10p for a single) when going either way lol
I'm full of useless facts i know but hey i like it this way
As a fellow history geek I should also point out that while towns nearest the centre of the county were chosen as the county town, it was also based on the best defended. Warwick with its castle was the best defended town in the area.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I thought that the university was meant to be put in Warwick but they couldn't find the funding for it there-but Coventry could, so it was built there instead but under Warwick's name. Anyway, getting off topic...
RichieGunns
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There are 33 seperate post codes within the Warwickshire area so just because ours is in it doesn't mean we're part of it!
Nonleagueherewecome
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Which is actually a Poly, really. We know it, they know it...only the overseas students are unwise to that.
RichieGunns
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These are all the towns listed within the Warwickshire area. If you look closely Coventry is NOT one of them. I've highlighted the towns and cities you'd know if lol
Those are the ones i know of at any rate...im sure you can probably name a few others you know too!
RichieGunns
New Member
Ah shit i actually knew that too lol
It's in this book i was reading about how society in Britain changed from the 800's upwards. It was the castle that determined which towns were used when naming the shires etc.
Glad you reminded me of that
coundonskyblue
New Member
At least we can find something to take our minds off football.
Tuesday night can be one of two topics:
A) Has the pedestrianisation of Broadgate been a success?
B) Will Warwick castle ever recapture Stanley the Eagle?
Tuesday night can be one of two topics:
A) Has the pedestrianisation of Broadgate been a success?
B) Will Warwick castle ever recapture Stanley the Eagle?
Nonleagueherewecome
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Hey BSB, we both liked that at exactly the same moment! Now if only our back four could show such signs of chemistry..